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Old 01-12-2017, 01:54 PM   #341
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Christianity was a Jewish creation, so he might as well blame Jews for all of this.
Let's not go there.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:47 PM   #342
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Exclamation Do try to stay as sane and logical as possible folks. Which granted is a bit rich coming from me... All the same though. You get my drift.

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Christianity was a Jewish creation, so he might as well blame Jews for all of this.

Best not post while under the influence (Of whatever) methinks.
Please refrain from doing so in future.
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Let's not go there.

Fully right tygrk
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:11 PM   #343
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There is the new term "cry-bully" (portmanteau of "crybaby" and "bully") for anyone who whines about their cause, but really wants to pass legislation picking on others who disagree.

An example might be the militant vegetarian/animal rights activists of the '90s.

Another example could be people who talk about "rape culture" or "safe spaces" at colleges.

They are usually leftist lunatics who hate white people, males, or capitalism.
I occasionally watch South Park, and to me this sounds like the kind of thing that Eric Cartman would try and pull off.

He's certainly done worse then this....
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:50 PM   #344
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:17 PM   #345
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According to the Associated Press, a 57-year-old convicted killer serving a life sentence in California became the first U.S. inmate to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery, the prisoner's attorneys confirmed last week.

California prison officials agreed to pay for the surgery for Shiloh Heavenly Quine, who was convicted 36 years ago of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery for ransom and has no possibility of parole.

Quine's case led the state to become the first to set standards that will allow other transgender inmates to apply to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery.

Lawyers for the convict successfully convinced the courts that the surgery falls under the Eighth Amendment of the US Constitution which requires that prisons provide inmates with medically necessary treatment for medical and mental health conditions.

There you have it folks: a California court ruled that gender reassignment surgery is medically necessary.

The daughter of Quine's victim said she objects to inmates getting taxpayer-funded surgery that is not readily available to non-criminals, regardless of the cost. "My dad begged for his life," said Farida Baig, who tried unsuccessfully to block Quine's surgery through the courts. "It just made me dizzy and sick. I'm helping pay for his surgery; I live in California. It's kind of like a slap in the face."

I'd have to agree with the victim's daughter.

But the convict here is apparently the REAL victim... Quine told a prison psychologist who recommended her for the operation that it would bring a "drastic, internal completeness." She expects it will end a dysfunction and depression so deep that she tried to cut and hang herself in prison five times, most recently in 2014 when she was initially told she could not have the operation. After the recovering from the operation, Quine will be moved to a women's prison.

Right. The no-chance-of-parole convict gets "internal completeness", the victim's family gets dick, and the taxpayers get to foot the $100,000 bill for this bullshit.
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According to the Associated Press, a 57-year-old convicted killer serving a life sentence in California became the first U.S. inmate to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery, the prisoner's attorneys confirmed last week.

California prison officials agreed to pay for the surgery for Shiloh Heavenly Quine, who was convicted 36 years ago of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery for ransom and has no possibility of parole.

Quine's case led the state to become the first to set standards that will allow other transgender inmates to apply to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery.

Lawyers for the convict successfully convinced the courts that the surgery falls under the Eighth Amendment of the US Constitution which requires that prisons provide inmates with medically necessary treatment for medical and mental health conditions.

There you have it folks: a California court ruled that gender reassignment surgery is medically necessary.

The daughter of Quine's victim said she objects to inmates getting taxpayer-funded surgery that is not readily available to non-criminals, regardless of the cost. "My dad begged for his life," said Farida Baig, who tried unsuccessfully to block Quine's surgery through the courts. "It just made me dizzy and sick. I'm helping pay for his surgery; I live in California. It's kind of like a slap in the face."

I'd have to agree with the victim's daughter.

But the convict here is apparently the REAL victim... Quine told a prison psychologist who recommended her for the operation that it would bring a "drastic, internal completeness." She expects it will end a dysfunction and depression so deep that she tried to cut and hang herself in prison five times, most recently in 2014 when she was initially told she could not have the operation. After the recovering from the operation, Quine will be moved to a women's prison.

Right. The no-chance-of-parole convict gets "internal completeness", the victim's family gets dick, and the taxpayers get to foot the $100,000 bill for this bullshit.
This is another case of a Financial Correct decision being confused for a Politically Correct one. The state wants to avoid going to court over a wrongful death suit his family could win if she ever was sucessful in any of her atempts. Johnny Taylor once famously sang how it was "cheaper to keep her" I guess nowadays it is cheaper to make her. BTW you know we are being PC by referring to her as "her"...
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:13 PM   #347
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According to the Associated Press, a 57-year-old convicted killer serving a life sentence in California became the first U.S. inmate to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery, the prisoner's attorneys confirmed last week.

California prison officials agreed to pay for the surgery for Shiloh Heavenly Quine, who was convicted 36 years ago of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery for ransom and has no possibility of parole.
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But the convict here is apparently the REAL victim... Quine told a prison psychologist who recommended her for the operation that it would bring a "drastic, internal completeness." She expects it will end a dysfunction and depression so deep that she tried to cut and hang herself in prison five times, most recently in 2014 when she was initially told she could not have the operation. After the recovering from the operation, Quine will be moved to a women's prison.
Point #1 - What misguided fool cut this asshole down?

Point #2 - Can't we just let him loose in the yard and let the other con's perform the surgery with a shiv?
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You might also add that America hasn't been a capitalist country for nearly a century. Corporatism/Crony Capitalism isn't Freemarket capitalism.

Competition has been practically wiped out due to government meddling. This is what allows companies like Wal-Mart to flourish.
Whereas under unfettered capitalism competition had been wiped out by Standard Oil and U.S. Steel creating monopolies. Unfettered capitalism is much like slavery and communism.

"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Abraham Lincoln

"Whenever people go into politics and they try to say that Communism was a good thing, I say, 'Go ahead and live in a Communist country then, if you think it's so great.' " - Martina Navratilova
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Let's not go there.
You can detect sarcasm yes?
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Whereas under unfettered capitalism competition had been wiped out by Standard Oil and U.S. Steel creating monopolies. Unfettered capitalism is much like slavery and communism.

"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Abraham Lincoln

"Whenever people go into politics and they try to say that Communism was a good thing, I say, 'Go ahead and live in a Communist country then, if you think it's so great.' " - Martina Navratilova
I am completely against warmongering for the benefit of multi-national corporations and banks. I am also against the exploitation of third world labor. The diamond trade is one particularly disgusting practice.

All I would like to see is companies being able to compete without government intervention and favoritism on behalf of certain businesses over others. The mindset of "too big to fail" should never enter into the conversation. The bailout was a perfect example of why we don't have competition in the marketplace. It's also a reason why it's so damn hard for people to get the money necessary to start up a business and compete against the established ones. This is why the corporate tax needs to be addressed. Small businesses cannot hire teams of lawyers to exploit tax loops like a fortune 500 company can. That isn't competition, it's corporatism.

Remove all tax loops so that they cannot be exploited, and then lower the corporate tax. Ironically, these larger companies may end up paying slightly more than they did when they could protect much of their revenue from taxation.

Economic determinism, meaning the pursuit of profit as the highest virtue for a business, is also deplorable.

I'm in complete agreement that the current US economic model needs to be overhauled. The only problem I have is saying we have a free market capitalist system. By definition we don't.

Just another reason to strip the federal government of much of its power, to get back to what was intended in the first place.
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