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Old 01-11-2017, 04:20 PM   #331
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White people, males, and capitalism have wreaked a shitload of havoc on this planet, from the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition, to air pollution, to fracking. They have destroyed countries, cultures, and killed billions in the name of God or for bigger pofits. If somehow you think they are now being shit on, you're just ignorant.
I do hope to discuss the ideological flaws of the post Renaissance European world view that has us treating the natural world as something to master and exploit in the 'VEF Philosophy' thread very soon. Slavery and the practice of treating other human beings as objects of exploitation predates capitalism by many thousands of years. In fact, it is Christian ethics and Western liberal thought that has condemned the practice of slavery and is actively seeking to eradicate it. Like I said earlier, Western Civilization has been very much a mixed bag.

I will concede that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong raised mass murder and depravity to unprecedented levels. Mao was not a white man, of course, but he studied our methods. What I am trying to say here is that there is an element of truth in bigtrain45's post.

But I do shudder to think of what the Romans, Mongols, and Ottomans would have done if they had our technology. Do you think Kim Jong Un is a reincarnation of Caligula?
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Somehow, I don't think Kim Jong Un would last 15 minutes in any American middle school before somebody beat him up and took his lunch money.
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I do hope to discuss the ideological flaws of the post Renaissance European world view that has us treating the natural world as something to master and exploit in the 'VEF Philosophy' thread very soon. Slavery and the practice of treating other human beings as objects of exploitation predates capitalism by many thousands of years. In fact, it is Christian ethics and Western liberal thought that has condemned the practice of slavery and is actively seeking to eradicate it. Like I said earlier, Western Civilization has been very much a mixed bag.

I will concede that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong raised mass murder and depravity to unprecedented levels. Mao was not a white man, of course, but he studied our methods. What I am trying to say here is that there is an element of truth in bigtrain45's post.

But I do shudder to think of what the Romans, Mongols, and Ottomans would have done if they had our technology. Do you think Kim Jong Un is a reincarnation of Caligula?
You might also add that America hasn't been a capitalist country for nearly a century. Corporatism/Crony Capitalism isn't Freemarket capitalism.

Competition has been practically wiped out due to government meddling. This is what allows companies like Wal-Mart to flourish.
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@IronMan: I concur, because I used to work for Meijer, which at times resembled Wal-Mart except with a UFCW union local. Truck unloaders who actually worked at Wal-Mart said it was even worse; "Hell-Mart" where you are yelled at if you can't unload a truck in 3 hours.

Maybe if there was more competition, Wal-Mart would go the way of their union-busting compatriot Biggs, and get a swirly down the toilet of corporatism. )
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I will also say that "white males" are a non-sequitur for the Spanish Inquisition, which technically was done by Latino Catholic males in Spain, a nation once considered more Catholic than the Vatican. Rick Santorum is probably influenced by their ideology... )
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@IronMan: I concur, because I used to work for Meijer, which at times resembled Wal-Mart except with a UFCW union local. Truck unloaders who actually worked at Wal-Mart said it was even worse; "Hell-Mart" where you are yelled at if you can't unload a truck in 3 hours.

Maybe if there was more competition, Wal-Mart would go the way of their union-busting compatriot Biggs, and get a swirly down the toilet of corporatism. )
Try being a truck loader at a distribution center, turnover is high for a reason. Also being a vendor making a delivery to a store is a process I do not ever want to go through again.
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There is the new term "cry-bully" (portmanteau of "crybaby" and "bully") for anyone who whines about their cause, but really wants to pass legislation picking on others who disagree.

An example might be the militant vegetarian/animal rights activists of the '90s.

Another example could be people who talk about "rape culture" or "safe spaces" at colleges.

They are usually leftist lunatics who hate white people, males, or capitalism.
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I will also say that "white males" are a non-sequitur for the Spanish Inquisition, which technically was done by Latino Catholic males in Spain, a nation once considered more Catholic than the Vatican. Rick Santorum is probably influenced by their ideology... )
Christianity was a Jewish creation, so he might as well blame Jews for all of this.
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@IronMan: I concur, because I used to work for Meijer, which at times resembled Wal-Mart except with a UFCW union local. Truck unloaders who actually worked at Wal-Mart said it was even worse; "Hell-Mart" where you are yelled at if you can't unload a truck in 3 hours.

Maybe if there was more competition, Wal-Mart would go the way of their union-busting compatriot Biggs, and get a swirly down the toilet of corporatism. )
Chinese manufacturers would lose their minds if Wal-Mart went tits up.
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