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Old 03-18-2017, 11:36 PM   #361
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It wouldn't actually surprise me if one of the yank security forces spied on trump, after all, that's what they do:spy on everyone, everywhere, and considering that trump ran for president, then they'd want to know about any 'skeletons in closets' or security risks.

I'd be surprised if they didn't spy on everyone involved in politics, especially the higher echelons.
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Default Chump is proving to be an embarassment.

'That's not how it works': Trump's grasp of Nato questioned after Merkel tweets
President’s claim that Germany owes the US ‘vast sums of money’ shows a lack of understanding, says ex-Nato representative
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It wouldn't actually surprise me if one of the yank security forces spied on trump, after all, that's what they do:spy on everyone, everywhere, and considering that trump ran for president, then they'd want to know about any 'skeletons in closets' or security risks.

I'd be surprised if they didn't spy on everyone involved in politics, especially the higher echelons.
It would most likely be the FBI or Homeland Security, which are charged with domestic surveillance and preventing terrorist attacks within the country. In theory, the CIA seeks to provide intelligence on the plans and capabilities of foreign nations, while the NSA does military intelligence. The CIA and NSA are supposedly legally barred from domestic spying. The National Security Coordinator supposedly collates and coordinates the activities of the three agencies according to my understanding.

BTW, I can't imagine that General McMaster will tolerate being forced to keep a possible Russian mole on his staff very long before concluding that it it is impossible to the job he has been asked to do. He is a battlefield soldier. Will he try to suck it up and do the best he can, have the FBI or NSA investigate Flynn's acolyte, or resign?
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:39 AM   #364
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Default While the President is at Mar-a-Lago....

Driver detained after White House 'bomb scare'

A man is in custody after a car drove up to a White House checkpoint on Saturday night, the US Secret Service has said.

Security at the White House was immediately upgraded. CNN reported the driver claimed to have a bomb.

The vehicle has been declared suspicious and nearby streets have been closed off.

US President Donald Trump was at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida at the time of the incident.

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US Secret Service laptop with Trump Tower plans stolen in New York

A US Secret Service laptop with Trump Tower floor plans and other sensitive material has been stolen from an agent's vehicle in New York.

The laptop was protected by encryption and carried no classified information, the Secret Service said.

But the computer does have details on a criminal inquiry into former Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server, ABC News said.

Police are looking at surveillance footage to identify a suspect.

The Secret Service released a statement saying "an employee was the victim of a criminal act in which our Agency issued laptop was stolen".

The agency added that its computers "contain multiple layers of security including full disk encryption and are not permitted to contain classified information".

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Default Trump’s Approval Rating Hits New Record Low



Two months into his presidency, Donald Trump’s ratings continue to fall. The commander in chief’s approval rating fell to a new low over the weekend to 37 percent, according to the latest Gallup poll.

Gallup’s findings came before the Congressional hearing on Russia and whether the country interfered in the 2016 election to give the Republican candidate a boost.

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Back in August 2011, Mr Trump questioned (via the inevitable tweet) why Mr Obama had a “record low” Gallup approval rating of 39 per cent – which Mr Trump has now surpassed.

I guess Barack Obama would call this schadenfreude...
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Were these polls conducted by the same pollsters who told us HRC would be our 45th president? If so, don't believe them.
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The whole immigration thing is a mess not given to simple solutions and black and white thinking. There is something wrong when we are deporting stay at home moms, college students, and hotel dishwashers supporting a wife and 4 kids, but we can't seem to catch and deport killers covered in tattoos. (BTW, I do not consider hanging to be "cruel and unusual punishment.")
Its OK with me & my mum if those "stay at home moms" ,that are here illegally have never put a red cent into our system , & will collect billions in welfare & freebees, courtesy of US tax paying citizens, for decades , while they pump out babies, that most often continue that legacy on to their kids , taught by their dear old illegal moms, often for decades too.NOT! Or if some of those "dear illegal old moms" , steal or buy US citizens SS # , & ruin the credit of US citizens ,who those numbers belong to. I guess its OK , only if its not yours or one or "yours", they stole from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbERMbTXRfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48-Z4z3YKXc

That is about as ridiculous as a report by the FLN = Fake Liberal News, that stated each illegal worker here in TX put in 25,000 dollars or much more in taxes into the system, hell most illegals don't even make 25K$/ year total, let alone put that much in taxes here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjSG705Inc&t=628s


A catastrophe in many mid-size cities in America is happening, & the fact is we can help much more of the ME refugees ,& vastly more cost efficiently in their nations. We don't need to do what the NWO gang of the Bush/Clinton oligarchy want , to bring them all here or send them to western Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYqSCW4uybY&t=39s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2kmllcbAcI


Here is the man who wants to destroy W. Europe, look what he has to say, its shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynvadvrx1TA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akWwdyLLcV0

Lets see what is really happening, that is if the those who rely on "FLN" can stomach the truth!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSUMtuO3JsM

Immigration is the biggest problem we have today, & sooner than latter it will affect the future of our nations, like it or not.The time has come to choose which way nations will go, & America HAS chosen. It seems Britain has too. Where are you world? We'll see, in France very soon & if Madam Le Pen is elected?

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This is the question, & WHY is this happening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clvRTmhcCkI


Why its not working & never will work in the west, anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGC_Jgk5rAk
& this?

Why is this NOT happening?It should be. If we put more pressure & or want to, it can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_oXEksqh8

This is what we "hired" president Trump to NOT do in America, & he is trying, but little piss ass super liberal judges want to "play" dictator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=4nkVG6egWMw

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Its OK with me & my mum if those "stay at home moms" ,that are here illegally have never put a red cent into our system , & will collect billions in welfare & freebees, courtesy of US tax paying citizens, for decades , while they pump out babies, that most often continue that legacy on to their kids , taught by their dear old illegal moms, often for decades too.NOT! Or if some of those "dear illegal old moms" , steal or buy US citizens SS # , & ruin the credit of US citizens ,who those numbers belong to. I guess its OK , only if its not yours or one or "yours", they stole from?
If you are a undocumented do you really think you are trying to get on TANF & SNAP and have the government that wants to deport them looking over every aspeect of their lives just to get like 400-500/month for at most 5 years? Really?



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That is about as ridiculous as a report by the FLN = Fake Liberal News, that stated each illegal worker here in TX put in 25,000 dollars or much more in taxes into the system, hell most illegals don't even make 25K$/ year total, let alone put that much in taxes here.
I believe it. They work and are not eligible for "the goodies" so it is very possible for them to do those numbers, if not more depending on the situation.

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Immigration is the biggest problem we have today, & sooner than latter it will affect the future of our nations, like it or not.The time has come to choose which way nations will go, & America HAS chosen. It seems Britain has too. Where are you world? We'll see, in France very soon & if Madam Le Pen is elected?
I wonder how voters remorse will play itself out in this. The Democratic party is burying it's head in the sand and act wait it's turn while the progressives are trying to mobilize and take take over the party or start a new party.
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Immigration is the biggest problem we have today, & sooner than latter it will affect the future of our nations, like it or not.The time has come to choose which way nations will go, & America HAS chosen. It seems Britain has too. Where are you world? We'll see, in France very soon & if Madam Le Pen is elected?
We have had the illegal immigrants on welfare discussion before. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for welfare, Medicare, or Medicaid. They are eligible for schooling and emergency medical care. Most of the costs to state and local governments for illegal immigrants come from educating their children. On the other hand, the Social Security Administration estimates that undocumented immigrants and their employers pay $13 billion per year in taxes for which they will never receive benefits.

There is a problem with the immigration policy giving preference to family members of legal immigrants. For example, a student from China or an Indian Tech worker on an H1-B visa, gets a job here and becomes a citizen. That worker brings their parents here. The parents will wind up in HUD subsidized housing and be receiving Medicaid. That phenomenon and poorly educated and marginally skilled refugees cause 72% of legal immigrants to receive some form of public assistance. It is estimated that 62% of households headed by one or more undocumented immigrants are receiving public monies because their U.S. born children qualify for TANF funds, food stamps, Medicaid, and subsidized school lunches. Please note that since 1996 green card holders must wait five years before they can collect any form of public assistance, while those here illegally are barred from receiving benefits.

We are in agreement that the spigot needs to be turned off until we can absorb the quarter of our population of !st or 2nd generation immigrants. I am concerned that ICE's rather ham fisted approach could cause agricultural shortages as few American want or can do that work efficiently. Also, we hear that undocumented parents are keeping their U.S. born children out of school for fear of being caught and separated from their children. We don't need to be creating more poorly educated kids, or putting more kids into foster care. I am very much in favor of either deporting criminal gang members or placing them in prisons where they are greatly outnumbered and letting the inmates take care of them.

As a final note, if we take the CIS estimate that the 3.7 million immigrant households receive an average of $6,234 in benefits, the total cost of those benefits would be $23.1 billion. We don't know exactly how much in taxes they pay. One estimate is $90 billion, but let's cut that in half and say that immigrants are paying $20 billion more in taxes than they consume. That would still be a positive contribution to GDP.

Then there are these little tidbits. 2015 is the most recent year for which we have accurate measures of government spending. The military spending of the United States was $598.5 billion that year. Interest payments on the national debt totaled $223.2 billion. Basic economics teaches that military spending and government borrowing are drags on GDP.

IMO, unequal distribution of income, poor educational performance, the growing deficit, and the poor return on healthcare expenditures are much bigger problems.
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