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Old 01-10-2015, 12:14 AM   #21
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israel killed 2200 people this summer in "operation protective edge" on the gaza strip, 500 of them were children....10.000 people was wounded...does anybody care? of course not, they were all dirty arab muslims, not really the same species as us good white westerners....has USA threatened to invade israel after those atrocities? of course not, they fully support it!
and how many innocent civilians has been killed in iraq after the us invasion (which was built on proven lies fabricated by the bush administration)...millions? has bush/cheney been indicted for war crimes? LOL

that doesn't mean i support terrorism in any shape or form, but i can actually understand it....all muslims in the world (1,5 billion) with any intelligence can see there is a double standard when it comes to human lives...i doubt the terrorists were very religious to begin with, they were more like young stupid thugs full of hate easily directed at western society
Okay then what about all the rocket attacks that Hamas kept doing? Those that were killed in Israel were just dirty Jews?
Yes there were no MWD's and the invasion may have been ill advised, especially in the light of current events.
Millions? Get a grip on reality man. Yes innocents died but how many innocents are dieing every day due to sectarian violence in Arab countries and what of the slaughter conducted by ISIS?
Double standard for Muslims, I think you need to look at the double standard they have for non Muslims. Believe or DIE. Hopefully by a bullet but they could cut your head off.
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Neither is Female genital mutilation acceptable.
I thought it was only baby boys the jews mutilate. Who cuts girls?
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I thought it was only baby boys the jews mutilate. Who cuts girls?
Female Genital Mutilation is a common thing in parts of Africa and it is not confined to Muslim communities there; many so-called Christians do this to their female children. It is a wicked and detestable crime, but is sadly entrenched in tradition. Incidentally, as far as I know, no Jewish community practises FGM. Male circumcision is not at all alike to FGM.
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israel killed 2200 people this summer in "operation protective edge" on the gaza strip, 500 of them were children....10.000 people was wounded...does anybody care? of course not, they were all dirty arab muslims, not really the same species as us good white westerners....has USA threatened to invade israel after those atrocities? of course not, they fully support it!
Israel won't get away with their terrorist attacks much longer. When Palestine joins the international criminal court they'll actually be able to defend themselves in court. Israel will probably be shunned by civilized western countries when all their crimes come to light. Never again will they be allowed to hide behind Hitler when they themselves are hypocritically causing genocide.
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HeyO, just saw the ending of the French (?) Islamic terrorists. I am glad they are dead. They were scum and I hope they died slowly. They had gone out country to be trained, had criminal records to boot, and were on the French watch list. Yet because of democracy, which I definitely support, they were free to act as they did. IF they had been deported it would not have happened. Harsh yes but the good of the many at times may supersede the rights of the few. Especially when the few are proven criminals and religious zealots. Maybe it is time to ban people from returning to their home country if it can be shown they left for terrorist training and indoctrination???
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Okay guys let's take the Israel/Palestine stuff to the Middle East thread. It has no real bearing on this thread. Thank you.
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Is it time to start expelling Muslim extremists and those who are deemed to be a terrorist threat? There are so many Muslims on watch/do not fly lists in so many countries. Most do not seem to do much UNTIL they do. See France. Is it time to kick them out of their respective countries? Let them land wherever? Yes this seems racists for those who view it that way but face it - radical Muslims are the primary cause of death and destruction in today's world. Speak up people!!!
Let me first say I have no problem with Muslims.

I do have a problem with people who committed the cowardly and heinous acts in Paris. It's the acts, not the religion, that disgusts me. I don't care why anybody did it, if they even believe their own rhetoric or not. That fact remains that some people committed a horrible crime and for that I hope justice is served.
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Okay guys let's take the Israel/Palestine stuff to the Middle East thread. It has no real bearing on this thread. Thank you.
The Middle East thread is here.
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...ghlight=Israel

Discussion of Israel and her neighbours is fine on there.
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They are not true Muslims. They are just pissed off losers who are hiding behind the Koran. Little minded backwards people who have been told by the real problem children (Their Clerics) who long for the golden era of The only time Islam had any power. They want to turn the clock back two thousend years. Where only the men had a say. Women were 3rd class and the state was run by the clerics. The Christians also had a dark age as well. Look at the crusades. We killed thousends of them. All in the name of God. One of my spiritual masters said that in recorded history, over one billion people have been killed in the name of a God. I have a bumper sticker on my truck, "God dosen't kill people. People with gods kill people". It is simply a political issue. So if you hide behind a cresent or a cross you are still hiding. And deceant people don't do these things. Our founding fathers built the U.S. on seperation of church and state. And most of the modern world has followed suit. Why is it that I never hear of a collage educated person with a good job and house payments living the modern dream ever become an isis or fringe jihadest. Air conditioning, McDonalds and Burger King, Flush toilets and electricity will win the so called war. Not guns or bombs. And the chance of a decent job will win the hearts and minds of the young people who do this crap. They will tell the old clerics to go to hell and walk out of the mosks. No one wants to live in a mud hut with sewer running down the middle of the street. Reading by oil lamps and begging for food. We need to bring them into the fold of modern mankind. Treat them like humans not animals. The Russian comedian Yakov Schmernoff said "You can go to France and live there for tweenty years but you will never be French"." You can go to any country in the world and never become one of them". "But anyone can come to America and become an American". I know we have our problems and we are far from perfect. We will have lone wolves and sleeper cells here. We are still too quick to shoot a Black man in the streets for a petty crime.. I thought that crap was over in the 60's and 70's. It was for me anyway. No we have our issues but we will suceed in the end. Help them. Heal them. Tell them we hear your cry. And we will come to your aid and bring you into the modern fold. But know this, We are never out-guned! Just ask the Japanese.... We can still turn their desert into a self lighting glass floored parking lot without us leaving home. Then the oil would be free. The answer is not our governments. All governments want to point a finger at the BAAAD people over there. So they dont have to worry about fixing domestic issues. That costs money. War is good business and MAKES money. So the answer is with the common man and woman on the street. We need to reach out our hands and join together with all mankind. Crazy? Well they called the Christ, Buddha and many others crazy. I'm in good company. A vioce from the mountains.
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Why is it that I never hear of a collage educated person with a good job and house payments living the modern dream ever become an isis or fringe jihadest. Air conditioning, McDonalds and Burger King, Flush toilets and electricity will win the so called war. Not guns or bombs. And the chance of a decent job will win the hearts and minds of the young people who do this crap.
If this is the case why is Saudi Arabia the way it is? They have plenty of money, a good standard of living by anyone's standards, but they are governed by, if not a country of, what we think of Muslim extremists.

Part of the problem, and I don't know what the solution is, is the attitude you show in your post. You seem to think the American way is the best way. You have massive social inequality, and you have your own religious fundamentalists in Christian groups. Also your society has a history of shooting people for no reason. Remember the shooting in the cinema because someone was throwing pop corn, not that different from being offended at a cartoon.
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