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Old 03-13-2008, 04:53 PM   #1
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Default How to Scan Magazines - A discussion

First of all: Mod, please move this discussion as I didn't know where to put it.
Thx!
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Hi everybody,

since I started scanning my mags and came across some difficulties of improving the result while keeping the quality good over a whole magazine I wanted to ask you about your tricks to do so.

Ok, here's how I scan:
1) I scan from The Gimp using a Canon Canoscan ScanLide 90
2) I pin down the master using heavy books with a hard cover book as the lowest layer to straighten out the pages -> I've got to keep the scanner open
3) That's why I avoid light within the direct area of the scanner
4) I make a couple of test scans per mag using 400dpi to find out what color correction I get the best results with

-> And 4 bears the problem: When I preview e.g. page 1 the color optimizations will almost never lead to a good result on e.g. page 6 because the color bias changes with the developing of the series.

- How do you scan to achieve the best results?
- If I scanned without color correction, are there any cool tools to batch correct brightness/contrast/satuation

Looking forward to your replies

amicalement, hartwig
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Basic retouching software:

ACDSee (well, I used) basic retouching

Retouching software more complex:

Paint Shop Pro (which I own)

Adobe Photoshop

Looking a bit, you should find it on the net .....

Now when you scanned an image the détramer

This avoids tapes and photos on the square

Greetings

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sorry for english.....
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:20 PM   #3
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Basic retouching software:

ACDSee (well, I used) basic retouching

Retouching software more complex:

Paint Shop Pro (which I own)

Adobe Photoshop

Looking a bit, you should find it on the net .....

Now when you scanned an image the détramer

This avoids tapes and photos on the square

Greetings

Jobart

sorry for english.....
Hey Job, if this scan is from you you're DA MAN for me
http://img230.imagevenue.com/img.php...07_123_5lo.jpg

GREAT!! The colors are good but most of all the contrast and crispyness is fucking awsome! What exactly were your scanner settings and what filters did you use?

Thx!
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:58 AM   #4
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I use an old HP ScanJet 3300C



Within the HP PrecisionScan LT Software,
is a helpful tool called "Descreen Printed Originals / Slow Speed"....

If this is not selected, well that is how those nasty yellow lines appear.
Chroma damage - Horribly lame results.
Everyone must have seen those before, when viewing posts.

Select that option, to get rid of them using this particular device.


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After scanning I use exclusively Adobe Photoshop for any or all enhancements.
Currently running versions 4.0, 5.5, and CS.

Unlike many of my old pals scanning for the newsgroups, I do not like the AP 'unsharp mask' filter.
Although it is still something to consider, because it eliminates artifacts, especially in beat up old magazines.

I basically re-position for symmetry, perhaps increase contrast
and a bit of luma, (brightness) but not too much,
and depending on the print, reduce or increase (chroma) saturation.

If the image is not clear enough, possibly add a bit of sharpening.
[Sharpen is still found in filters in AP.]
Again not too much as print already includes reproduction degradation
from the photo-to-print process.

Usually full page images are so large in size that image reduction might be an option.
All in an effort to try and keep it as original as possible.

Original Scan:




Modified Scan:




My work is not professional by any means. It passes as acceptable.
For years I struggled with the basic mechanics, the original image.
If I could get that scanned without damage, that was more than half the battle.

Once the image is scanned acceptably, without flaw in a decent manner, and it is time to process.....
the eye of the artist should not overstate the eye of the photographer.
(i.e.; less is more)


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Hi hartwig,

moved the discussion here the section where you posted is for step by step explanations.

Don't have much knowledge about scanning but when you don't have Photoshop there are freeware alternatives:

Gimp
Free open source graphics program very advanced like Photoshop.
Runs on Windows 2000 and above, Mac and Linux.

http://www.gimp.org/



Paint.NET
http://www.getpaint.net/index.html



Small free open source graphics program. (1.6 MB)
Little brother of Gimp but got some nice features, enough for all your basic and bit more advanced image editing needs.

Runs on Windows XP SP2+/Server 2003 SP1+/Vista
You will need .NET Framework 2.0 but that is probably already installed, if not you can get it at the Windows update website in the Custom updates/Optional section.
http://www.update.microsoft.com/
or on this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/r...DisplayLang=en

You can download it here:
http://www.getpaint.net/download.html
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I use an old HP ScanJet 3300C

Original Scan:


I have some badly damaged magazines like yours.

But you can restore it. Look at this:



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I have some badly damaged magazines like yours.

But you can restore it. Look at this:



Tuffy

Tuffy,
That's amazing!! What did you do to get your image so clean???

cheers -ww2k
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Tuffy,
That's amazing!! What did you do to get your image so clean???

cheers -ww2k
Thanks ww2k and trip.

I used the Rubber Stamp tool in Photoshop.

The rubber stamp tool lets you paint a copy of color into the same image.

The Clone options of the rubber stamp tool make a sample, and paint an exact duplicate of that image.

So I choosed the color pixels from a clear area and cloned over the damaged area.

It's very time consuming work at the first time, but you can learn fast how to do it.

I can say today that it's very easy to do and you get very good results.

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Thanks ww2k and trip.

I used the Rubber Stamp tool in Photoshop.

The rubber stamp tool lets you paint a copy of color into the same image.

The Clone options of the rubber stamp tool make a sample, and paint an exact duplicate of that image.

So I choosed the color pixels from a clear area and cloned over the damaged area.

It's very time consuming work at the first time, but you can learn fast how to do it.

I can say today that it's very easy to do and you get very good results.

Tuffy
Very nice! You are a true master of that technique. I use the stamp tool for simple removal, like the lines of the centerfold in the last scan of my post. However I could not imagine the hours it would take to do that old magazine. Outstanding work, thank you.
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Here's a guide I wrote some while back. Some tips worth knowing in there.

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*SADIELOVER'S PRO SCANNING TIPS*


DO

...Line the back of the page you're scanning with a thick, dark card or plastic. Most porn magazines have pretty shitty paper quality, being thin and transparent, and the light from the scanner will likely add images from the reverse side to the scan. Putting a dark, non-reflective, opaque layer directly behind the page will ensure no ghosting of the opposite side. The only downside of this is that your scanned image will lose some contrast, but this can be fixed in any paint prog.

...Bump up the contrast anyway. Most scanners provide washed out, low-contrast images. Brighten them up. But don't overdo it. Incrementally add contrast/brightness accordingly until the picture resembles the image scanned. If the whites are obscuring detail, you're going too far. You'll get a knack for it. If you're feeling brave, adjust the RGB values too. It's common for scanners to add a fine layer of red or/and yellow. If you're careful, you can remove these for amazing results. Again, show restraint, or your babe can end up looking like She-Hulk.

...Resize the image. For two reasons. First, the freshly-scanned image will likely be unnecessarily large to keep/browse, and it should be, because you want to capture all that awesome girly detail from the page. Secondly, the unresized image will be full of pixelly grain, which looks bad. Resizing will iron the grain out leaving a natural, photographic quality. For reference, I scan at 180dp with a magazine filter on, then resize to 1000 pixels or nearest hundred vertically or horizontally. I crop individual panels and save them as seperate images, but some folks just scan entire pages and leave them as is, and they look pretty good too. It's your call.

...Paint in gaps and tears/paint over creases. Not all of our pornography has survived the years of vigourous masturbation intact. A lot of mine have missing corners and ungainly folds from sweaty, desperate grips and careless storage. Painting can be also essential for joining halves of a double-page spread, as the print of the magazine will often have a fraction of the image missing in the centre. Painting is hard, but if you're good, well worth it. With a duplicate brush you can use a combination of unspoiled areas and your fertile imagination to recreate nonexistant walls, carpets, tables, props, clothes and even the model herself photorealistically. It's tricky to learn though, and can look distractingly bad if you fuck it up.

...Weight the scanner to flatten the image. You only really need to do this if your pages are crinkly (ahem), but if they are, flattening will make the world of difference.

...Save your image (jpeg, duh) in relatively high quality. No point taking all this great advice to heart if you're gonna file it for posterity as artifactual nothingness.

...Add details in the filename. Kind of hypocritical of me to say so because I often don't do it, but putting details of the magazine scanned (vol no. etc) into the filename can be useful. And a unique scanner handle can be a godsend for finding more of your work, which if you're good, we'll want to.


DON'T

...Add your massive, garish, shitty, l33t MSPaint scanner logo and/or frame. If you're so wretched that you gotta let the world know that you're the guy who scanned the naked chick, then do it tastefully, with a little transparent logo in the corner. Better yet, don't do it at all, put your scanning handle in the filename instead.

...Airbrush. A real man likes skin textures, hair, pimples, freckles, moles, wrinkles, blemishes, stretchmarks, sags, etc. Reality is sexy. By all means paint out any stray dust or fluff or hair that has gotten trapped in your scanner, but leave the model as nature intended. I'll read FHM if I wanna jerk off to a waxwork.

...Alter her makeup. Please. I've actually seen this attempted. I have nightmares still. For the love of god, don't even try.

...Paint out text. The name of the model, photographer, edition date, blurbs, page numbers etc are useful to collectors. Also, few things are as distracting as a GIANT FUCKING BLACK RECTANGLE next to the babe showing her stuff. I know literature scares a lot of pornhounds, but they gotta learn to read sometime.
The effort is well worth it. Some of mine:









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