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Old 03-18-2017, 05:53 PM   #1
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Default 'Extras' for DVD, Blu Ray, and Laser Discs

There is a long thread on what movie(s) members are watching currently. I have seldom noticed any mention of whether what was being watched was streaming, Blu Ray, DVD, Laser Disc, or (shudder) VHS/Beta cassette. I've searched thread titles for another one that might have been used for that purpose and couldn't find any, so I'm starting this one.


Although I could never afford a Laser Disc player when they came out, I did envy those who could. It was such a leap forward from video cassette (just as when CD appeared to replace 8-Track): better quality in audio and video, chapter search, and extras. DVD and Blu Ray ended up making movies and TV shows more affordable for 'the masses' (including me.)


It's the extras that made me want to start a thread to talk about things like:


What kinds of extras that you look for?
I look for closed captioning for the deaf, lots of subtitles, other spoken languages, commentaries, good 'making-ofs'


Do you remember any of the first extras that you saw on Laser Disc or DVD?
For me it was the Star Wars trilogy making-ofs


The first 'making-of' that impressed you?
In my case, it was those that came with The Frighteners DVD.


Have there been extras that you did not expect?
One that comes to mind was on It Came From Beneath the Sea: David Schecter on Film Music's Unsung Hero; it was about Constantin Bakaleinikoff , who I had never heard of, and how studios re-used musical cues.


Disappointments?
All of the newer Blu Rays with few if any extras other than a trailer, especially if they are from one of the big studios.


Annoyances?
Ads and trailers at the start, whether you can avoid them by clicking a menu button (or not)


Things on VHS you want to see on DVD for your region?
Samples for me would be “Love Crimes” with Sean Young ; “Love Letters” with Jamie Lee Curtis; “Never on Tuesday” with Claudia Christian


Things on DVD you want to see on Blu Ray for your region?
An example for me would be “Perfect” with Jamie Lee Curtis – the regular DVD has that crumby 1:1.33 screen ratio; there is a 1:1.85 anamorphic version out there, but it is one of four films on a DVD – so the quality isn't very good.


What are some of the films or TV shows that have 'full package' of extras that you have really liked?
The 3 Lord of the Rings movies, really good making-ofs.
The Alien Anthology – documentaries for all 4 films, original scripts.
The Bladerunner 5-disc collector's version – all 4 versions, Dangerous Days doc, lots of vintage material.
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Usually I'd only watch "Gag or Blooper" reels more than once but the collected trailers and TV spots on the DVD of Deadpool bear frequent re watching.
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Usually I watch movies on VHS (VHS tapes are going for CHEAP in thrift stores), DVD, or Netflix.

You know, I'll admit to not knowing that Laser Disc was even a format as a kid. I was in a flea market back in '01 (I was 12) and I saw a Batman Returns Laser Disc (I didn't know it was a Laser Disc at the time). Initially, I thought it was a Batman Returns soundtrack on vinyl, since the size of those Laser Discs were shaped like LPs. When I told my mother that, she schooled me then and there about LD.

What kinds of extras that you look for?
I'm not all that fond of making-ofs or behind the scenes features, so what I do look for are commentaries and different languages (IDK why).

Do you remember any of the first extras that you saw on Laser Disc or DVD?
I think it was some featurettes on the Mortal Kombat DVD from 1995.

The first 'making-of' that impressed you?

It was probably the making-of and BTS features of the Dawn of the Dead remake from 2004 by Zack Snyder. Like I said, I'm not a fan of making-ofs or BTS, but I really enjoyed these.

Have there been extras that you did not expect?
Maybe the many features on the Blu Ray release of Ms. 45. Being that it was an old exploitation film, I expected no special features or extras, but it actually did contain many.

Disappointments?
Annoyances?

I'll fuse these together for three points.

One annoyance or disappointment is how some of the older DVDs were dual sided discs, where one side contained Full Screen and the other contained Widescreen. FIT BOTH ON ONE SIDE!

Another really annoying thing is old movies where the company may not have had a clean "master copy" of a film to convert over to DVD, so instead what they did was to just rip a copy off of a VHS, port it over to DVD and manufacture/distribute it that way. That rarely happened, but the times it did, it was frustrating.

The final annoyance/disappointment I have is this: when a movie was naturally filmed in full screen 4:3 format, but the company decides it's a good idea to either slap black bars on the top and bottom of the picture (and thus, actually obstructing the darn picture) or stretching it to 16:9, to force it as widescreen for the DVD release.

Things on VHS you want to see on DVD for your region?
A BUNCH of exploitation films I own. Too many to name. These types of movies are known for never having DVD, much less Blu Ray, releases. Only the REAL famous, cult classics get released.

Things on DVD you want to see on Blu Ray for your region?
Poison Ivy: The New Seduction! Please! Someone make this happen.

What are some of the films or TV shows that have 'full package' of extras that you have really liked?
Almost everything nowadays comes LOADED with extras and such, so I can't think of a movie off the top. But I can think of two shows that refreshingly came with TONS of special features on DVD. Seinfeld and Newsradio, two comedy shows I'm quite fond of that came with many gag reels, TV spots, and commentaries.

By the way, back to Laser Disc, since I own NO, and never did own, Laser Disc, I heard a friend of mine tell me that the audio on LD is better than that of Blu Ray because LD was recorded in a completely lossless audio format. How accurate is that? He tells me some of the visuals, can even rival certain Blu Rays (of older, classical movies, at least).
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A brilliant DVD extra is the commentary on the 70s sci fi kids TV show the tomorrow people .
The now middle aged actors take the piss out of their younger selves and the crap TV show they acted in .
It is hilarious !

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An example of what I meant by the dearth of extras on some Disney Brs/DVDs was season 1 of Marvel's Agent Carter - they made a exclusive deal with Amazon, with the result that it cost $35.99 for the 8 episodes of the season (plus a short 'gag reel' - there wasn't even a digital copy or VUDU coupon! There were a number of things up on the Internet that Marvel had posted that could have been included: BTS things, more funny stuff - and there were the dub wars with the SHIELD cast.

They did no better with the 2nd season, even after all of the complaints. I waited until just recently to buy the seasons, and got them new for only $24.00...
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Hmmmm extras.
I've always been powerfully fond of commentaries must admit.

Cast ones predominately.

Two of the best I've ever heard were for this ,



Plus that ,



How good were those cast commentaries ?
Listened to them both more than twice.
So if you`re ever able , I highly recommend you check them out
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Here is another Blu Ray that has a lot of extras, and it is not region encoded!


The cover/back is two-sided, but both the outer and inner sides look exactly the same, except one has one of those “M (Recommended for mature audiences)” lozenges on the front of one of them.


Film itself has a new 4K master, keeping the 2.35:1 screen ratio; but no closed caption or subtitles.


Features:


Ported over from the earlier DVD are these two:
Audio Commentary by the director/co-producer, Richard Franklin, a good listening experience
Kangaroo Hitchcock, a nice making-of featurette


Also Included are uncut versions of interviews that were done for the 'Not Quite Hollywood' documentary; by Franklin (14min) , Stacy Keach (19min), Jamie Lee Curtis (14min), scriptwriter Everett De Roche(7min), and guarantor rep Tom Burstall (6min) – Borstall wasn't mentioned on BR case or menu, but stunt coordinator/actor Grant Page was (and isn't actually included).


A never before seen 1980 lecture on the process of making of the movie, with Franklin, co-producer Barbi Taylor, and the film's composer Brian May. Great feature, over 2 hours of information on what it took to make the film, which at the time had the largest budget ever for an Australian film. The first 15 minutes are spent by the moderator doing an intro that included a lot of questions that he thought the audience would want to have answered. Franklin, etal, cover all of the 'hoops' that the film makers had to go through to get the financing from the Australian government and other backers, including the American distributors AVCO Embassy (who were the ones that insisted that another 'bankable' star, other than just Stacy Keach (who was on their 'b' list of desirable leads), had to be included – that is how Jamie Lee Curtis came to be asked to play a part.) AVCO had been asked about the possibility of having an Aussie like Brian Brown or Mel Gibson (who had just done Mad Max) instead of Keach, but AVCO basically said 'Who?' When told that that 'Max' had just set records in Hong Kong, they said 'Where?' This is a real gem, even if it is a so-so transfer from a VHS original.


A 1981 video interview with Franklin, and a 2001 audio interview with him. Both cover some of the same ground, but also has a sufficient amount of new information about the movie and other parts of his career (including 'Patrick' and his co-producing 'Blue Lagoon' for his USC classmate Randal Kleiser.)


A new audio interview with Stacy Keach.


A new audio interview with Grant Page – besides stunt coordinating, he was the villain.


A new featurette on restoration and 4K process hosted by the film's cinematographer Vincent Monton.


Exclusive essay by Lee Gambin (Melbourne-based writer for Fangoria), with a large gallery of stills, posters, storyboards, production art, newspaper reviews, and more.


The one thing missing from the old Anchor Bay DVD that I have is an 8 page booklet that has a short essay by Michael Felsher, along with 10 small pictures interspersed throughout. The back page lists the 20 chapter headings. The booklet is 5” x 7-1/4”, too big for the BR case, so I'm keeping the DVD.
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I have 370 movies on DVD and video cassettes. I actually don't watch the extras that come on DVD movies. I don't want to know how the visual and special effects were made because then I feel that it kind of ruins the movie. For me it is better to wonder: "How did they do that". Most of the other extras that come such as out takes or blooper reel, or interviews with cast members or the director I'm just not interested in. I bought the movie to see the movie.
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