"The Unexplainable...."

[electile disfunction]

Originally Posted by rc_riddle

If you can predict any position on a curve , then you can describe anything in nature, a horse running, a stream flowing or grass growing.
Mathematics, thanks to calculus, can describe anything!!!

Welcome back, rc_riddle.

You make an interesting point here. And I think you're right--if we can measure it we can describe it.

The next step looks scary though . If we can describe something do we understand it or is this an illusion we create for ourselves?

*I* think our consciousness sets us up for a trap because our brains are so good at finding patterns and using tools to find more patterns. The trap seems to be a simple illusion: "Because we can describe it, we understand it."

A few examples:
(philosophy) if we see a dog chasing a rabbit we tend to think that "the rabbit causes the dog " just because it came first (of course they had nothing to do with each other until they met);

(science & calculus) we can describe the the probability of a single electron afterward but while it is happening if we know where the electron is now we can't *also* know its velocity (Heisenberg Uncertainty Priciple);

and (everyday life) we have only 26 letters and a couple handfuls of punctuation and grammar rules for a language (English) but we all know we are fooling ourselves when we say we actually "understand" it . "Throw the bull over the fence some hay," is a common sentence form in English but we all know bulls are really heavy.

So, everyone, if we can describe it do we understand it or is this an illusion we create for ourselves?

e.d.

[rc_riddle]

Originally Posted by Dumbassgo

Nope, we required Einstein on top of Newton to do this. Newton's theories alone would have sent the probes off course.

Cheers,
Dumbassgo.

Of course, and Einstein was right up there with Newton, 'Standing on the shoulders of Giants.'

[Jeff Vader]

Originally Posted by rc_riddle

Sorry Jeff, jumped the gun a bit here with trumping your question with a science answer. Of course, science has no answer to concienceness, how could it have?
The human brain is the only natural organ with the facility to analyse itself.
There Ya' go, Jeff, Summore scientific bull ta getcha thinkin!!

regards
er

Hmm, but conciousness is thoughts, self aware thoughts, and thoughts are impulses of electricity, thus memories are 'stored electrical impulses' (I think, perhaps this is a bad analogy ?) so can't we use electricity to explain consciousness ??

Originally Posted by rc_riddle

Sorry Jeff, jumped the gun a bit here with trumping your question with a science answer. Of course, science has no answer to concienceness, how could it have?
The human brain is the only natural organ with the facility to analyse itself.
There Ya' go, Jeff, Summore scientific bull ta getcha thinkin!!

regards
er

So the scalpel of analysis cannot be used internally, hmmm, philosophy anyone ?

OK, let me get thinking and I'll come back to you with a proper answer - if I can !


This thread reminds me of a quote from Douglas Adams:

"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

[nevermind]

Quantum Physics..

Nothing really excists if not believing in it.
We are all connected, the physical universe is essential not physical..!!!
Time and space are just constructs of this non materialness.

For example:
The native indians never saw a ship before, at the time Columbus discovered America.
They did not see the ships appearing at the horizon, because they did
not know of the existence of ships.
What they did see were the wrinkles on the water surface caused by
the ships. They only noticed the things in their natural habitat.

Here's an introducton to a number of short movies
explaining how the universe really works.
A whole new approach to science and church...

LINK:

Down the Rabbit Hole

[nevermind]

Quantum Physics

(Click on the link Above)






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[Leprechaun]

More YouTube videos regarding Quantum Physics and similar subjects - with my book recommendations.

Amit Goswami - Quantum Physics & Consciousness 1 of 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42mrdhKwRA

Amit Goswami - Quantum Physics & Consciousness 2 of 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D98KWJ-1geI

Amit Goswami - Quantum Physics & Consciousness 3 of 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7LlTfNKVtU





Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 1 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKSq2tV1kE

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 2 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzrWimkIILg

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 3 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fteh9FzINDU

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 4 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM8_fxe0T_U

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 5 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-5pWbzmx2g

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 6 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_mDZiJQlI

Gregg Braden - The Science Of Miracles 7 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5rBvBKHRow





Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 1 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZ7GqWpEqM

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 2 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJdVdArDgc

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 3 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iU_QcU4o4

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 4 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy3arcY0KlQ

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 5 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-jh9UCy1Fk

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 6 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib57yeRJ9cU

Bruce Lipton - The Biology Of Perception 7 of 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ApMxcTw40

[dickerbetwixt]

Sorry to disrupt the deep and meaningful posts, but....

getting back to the original question in this post about the unexplainable



..why is belly button fluff always blue ?

[rotobott]

Originally Posted by dickerbetwixt

Sorry to disrupt the deep and meaningful posts, but....

getting back to the original question in this post about the unexplainable



..why is belly button fluff always blue ?

Science has the answer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ton-fluff.html

[TCO95]

Isn't it entirely possible that most of what is "out there" actually isn't there at all?

When you see a picture of suns colliding or a super nova or some other phenomenon the distance is always so great as to seem unreal. For example NASA may give a distance of one million light years to an object. Doesn't that mean the object was in that position before the rise of mammals on this planet?

It's my understanding that traveling at the speed of light for one year causes one hundred years to pass for those on the ground. Would that translate to hundreds of millions of years for something one million light years away? So if we could somehow get to that object wouldn't the event have happened and be over?

Any thoughts?

[squigg58]

Originally Posted by TCO95

So if we could somehow get to that object wouldn't the event have happened and be over?

Yes.

When we view distant objects, we're basically looking back in time. If something is 100 light years away, we see it as it was 100 years ago. Even when you look at the moon, you see it as it was about 1.3 seconds ago!