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Old 05-09-2008, 07:56 PM   #11
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I agree about burning them to DVD. But get good quality blanks. It's a false economy to buy cheap ones because when you want to copy or watch the film months or years later you'll find that half of them won't play. As I've found out from bitter experience!
What brands would you suggest? I have stored my movies on my external drive, but I am a little concerned about this as a long term solution. There are so many brands of blank DVD's that it is really hard to choose for the novice.
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The short answer:
Brands you recognize [ Verbatim, Maxell, Sony et.al ]
Steer clear of 'no-name' disks.

Also check your optical drive for the 'type' of DVD disks it likes.
Most 'like' DVD - [minus], but your mileage may vary

In the days of CD's there were only 3 patent holders.
And the only name you might recognize is Verbatim.
That probably still holds true, although I am not positive.
All the rest were either made by 1 of the 3 patent holders [ a good thing]
OR ripped from a combination [usually a bad thing]

Here is a link to the wiki page - good information and links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD

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What brands would you suggest? I have stored my movies on my external drive, but I am a little concerned about this as a long term solution. There are so many brands of blank DVD's that it is really hard to choose for the novice.
Actually data stored on a hard disk can last longer than when stored on a cd or dvd recordable.

A dvd recordable's capacity to store data long term has more to do with the quality of the die (the stuff for the reflection layer) than the brand name.

From personal experience I'd recommend not to burn data to a dvd at its rated top speed but 1 or 2 steps slower. E.g. burn a 16x dvd at 8x. This only takes a few minutes longer than burning at 16x.
I have many dvd recordables in my collection and so far only 1 has developed a fault and that one I had neglected to check after burning.
Tip : always check the cd/dvd after burning.

Another thing you could do is generate parity (par2) files of the data you want to store on cd/dvd and burn these onto the same cd/dvd. Par2 files can help you reconstruct the data if they ever develop a fault. They take up room of course so you can burn less data to the cd/dvd.

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I do not invest in any CD's or DVD's. If I run out of storage space I just go and buy another harddisk. I have three 250GB HD's in my PC. One is for the programmes, games and personal stuff, the other two are there for the collection of pictures and movies. Soon I will exchange them one after another with 500GB ones.

Sure, if I have a harddisk crash or some sort of HD-failure, a lot of data goes belly up at the same time, but hey, it's only porn I got for free in the internet... so I would just start all over again to collect the stuff. Which is a big part of the fun anyway.

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Hi,
you should save your datas on physically different medias to protect them
against crashes by lighting or other nature events. The best method is to
chisel them to stone, that survives them thousands of years.
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I use HDs and review the data. I had many problems with CDs and DVDs.


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Burn your collection on quality DVD-RAM disks (I prefer Verbatim). Theoretically the DVD-RAM format has a minimum 30-year data life if you burn and store the disks correctly. Anyhow you should check the readability of your DVDs regularly (I check them once a year)

Burning at a low speed (2x if you use DVD-RAM - 4x if you use CD-ROM) insures a higher quality for the burned CD/DVD. Extreme variations in temperature and ultraviolet light strongly decrease the lifetime of your burned DVDs and CDs so store them at a dark place at constant room temperature.

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10 Medical grade DVDs run in the $40-50 (US) range.
http://www.encoredataproducts.com/pr...cat=140&page=1
50 medical grade DVDs (4,7 GB) for 110$. Ok, a SATA drive with much more capacity is still cheaper. But if you have bad luck the storage drive is a piece of crap and will crash after a year.

You can't test the long-term durability of a backup media if you buy a hard drive, a CD-R or a DVD-R. Verbatim affirm that their DataLifePlus Super AZO CD-Rs have a lifetime of 100 years. Is there any proof of this statement?

Before you buy a backup medium use Google and browse about the quality of the storage system. Some harddisk types have the tendency to crash more often than others. A specific CD-R/DVD-R/RAM type may not work on your disk burner. Read the Amazon reviews before you buy a new CD/DVD burner. Often there are some compatibility tips.

IMO the best backup system is a combination of different backup methods:
Make one backup of your important stuff on a SATA drive and make a second backup on DVD-RAM or Medical Grade DVD. Check the stored files regularly.

By the way, is there a counterpart for Medical Grade DVDs in German stores? I read that this DVD type can be burned with a standard DVD burner too although you can buy special Medical DVD burners in some US stores.

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What brands would you suggest? I have stored my movies on my external drive, but I am a little concerned about this as a long term solution. There are so many brands of blank DVD's that it is really hard to choose for the novice.




see this digitalfaq webpage

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm



Maxell offers a special DVD-R for archiving purposes


http://www.maxell-usa.com/index.aspx...a=info&pid=153
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Taiyo Yuden blanks are the best I've ever come across. A few name brand companies buy and re-label TY media and sell it as their own. But that is hit and miss due to different suppliers that they use (you could get TY media in one box and crappy junk in the next and both Sony boxes would look identical)

I've only had a couple not work properly and that was due to user error and computer issues and not due to anything wrong with the blanks themselves.

There are many places that sell fake TY media. I'd post the site here that has authentic media for sale and it's very competitively priced compared to what you would pay for discs of a lesser quality at someplace like Best Buy: but only with the mods permission of course.

Also. I can vouch for burning at a lower speed that the max for your burner/discs. You don't need to go as low as possible but at least one speed slower will help. Always do an automatic data verification as well. I also compare directory count, file count and directory sizes between the burned disc and the local copy on my drive just to make sure.

And if it's worth making an archive disc it's worth making a second one just to keep "murphy" at bay. I don't do it with everything, only with the rare and favorite stuff.
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Switched to Verbatim Medical DVDs. Their advantage over DVD-RAM: Lower priced and readable in most standard DVD Players.

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