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Originally Posted by bigtrain45
White people, males, and capitalism have wreaked a shitload of havoc on this planet, from the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition, to air pollution, to fracking. They have destroyed countries, cultures, and killed billions in the name of God or for bigger pofits. If somehow you think they are now being shit on, you're just ignorant.
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I do hope to discuss the ideological flaws of the post Renaissance European world view that has us treating the natural world as something to master and exploit in the 'VEF Philosophy' thread very soon. Slavery and the practice of treating other human beings as objects of exploitation predates capitalism by many thousands of years. In fact, it is Christian ethics and Western liberal thought that has condemned the practice of slavery and is actively seeking to eradicate it. Like I said earlier, Western Civilization has been very much a mixed bag.
I will concede that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao Zedong raised mass murder and depravity to unprecedented levels. Mao was not a white man, of course, but he studied our methods. What I am trying to say here is that there is an element of truth in bigtrain45's post.
But I do shudder to think of what the Romans, Mongols, and Ottomans would have done if they had our technology. Do you think Kim Jong Un is a reincarnation of Caligula?