The Girls of the old spick and span - Page 92

hydon · September 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM

Nicola,not all dup's I hope.

**Knickers1** · September 16th, 2010, 04:54 AM

Going back to the pre mini skirt days, I love these pics of Helen Brodie. They were probably the work of the Scotlee studio. The pic of Helen using the garden fork with her skirt tucked up is especially nice I think. Nick

Trouser · September 16th, 2010, 10:42 AM

Best wishes to everyone here and thanks for all your great pics. One thing I found intriguing about these magazines was that the photographer often got the girls to do suggestive things with their hands. Sometimes it was obvious, sometimes subtle, and sometimes I was not sure if it was intentional or just my imagination. Here are some examples of obvious hand symbolism – and in one case - Angela-Jones3 - with feet. The Susan Douglas one is the most blatant I ever saw. I think this enhanced the pictures by showing that the girl was ‘on the same wavelength’ as the viewer. Here also is an example of one I am not sure about - Susanne Bartlet2 – is that suggestive hand position deliberate? Does anyone else here notice and enjoy these hand gestures by the models, or is it just me? Could we start a new ongoing theme of posting pictures in which the hands are important? And maybe we could also post ones where we are not sure if the hand position was intentional, and offer views on whether it was deliberate or not. Anyone else into this?

Medium2 · September 16th, 2010, 05:17 PM

It's an intriguing idea, and if the pics were contemporary, I'd say there was a very good chance you were right. My feeling is that in those more innocent times the girls just needed to be doing something in the pics-hence the props.

hobohemian · September 16th, 2010, 06:53 PM

Yes, those were more innocent times and any suggestiveness in the girls' actions or hand positions is I think in the mind of the modern viewer. Actually such an idea had never occurred to me in 40 years of enjoying ToCo's output.

hydon · September 16th, 2010, 11:49 PM

what does this say "look ma no hands".

**Knickers1** · September 17th, 2010, 01:11 AM

Regarding posing, I have always been amused and fascinated by the antics of Nicola, Marie and Eve. It always seemed that they were having such fun whilst providing us chaps with saucy entertainment. Nick

**Knickers1** · September 17th, 2010, 06:05 AM

Continuing on the posing theme, I think these are rather good. It's a lovely combination, tights, white pants and boots. The rear view is an all time favourite of mine. This is Ken Howard's work as the blanket used to hide the car registration plate is featured in Nicola and Marie's photo sets. I have often wondered if there were any assignments by Ken that features all four girls together. What a spectacle that would have been. Nick

**JGW** · September 17th, 2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Knickers1

Continuing on the posing theme, I think these are rather good. It's a lovely combination, tights, white pants and boots. The rear view is an all time favourite of mine. This is Ken Howard's work as the blanket used to hide the car registration plate is featured in Nicola and Marie's photo sets. I have often wondered if there were any assignments by Ken that features all four girls together. What a spectacle that would have been. Nick

These are wonderful upskirt pictures. Ingrid Norsman and another very attractive girl. We really would like to hear all about it from Ken Howard. Yes, just imagine all four girls posing together. And I would have liked to have seen them happily posing 'fully clothed' in shallow warm water. I prefer stockings and suspenders to tights too.

**Knickers1** · September 17th, 2010, 07:14 AM

The girl with Ingrid is Lowra Bruni in my last posting. Further exploration into my filing cabinet has revealed two more beauties. Joy Carlton on the step ladders was featured in the storyline, "Top Shelf Talent". Great legs ! And Helena McGuire is the girl showing her lovely big pants and stocking tops. Two girls who I think deserve a posting. Nick

September 16th, 2010, 04:54 AM	#912
Knickers1 Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northumberland Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 6,268 Thanked 60,408 Times in 2,314 Posts	Going back to the pre mini skirt days, I love these pics of Helen Brodie. They were probably the work of the Scotlee studio. The pic of Helen using the garden fork with her skirt tucked up is especially nice I think. Nick Last edited by Knickers1; September 16th, 2010 at 05:02 AM.. Reason: Text

September 16th, 2010, 10:42 AM	#913
Trouser Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 36 Thanks: 536 Thanked 687 Times in 35 Posts	Hands Best wishes to everyone here and thanks for all your great pics. One thing I found intriguing about these magazines was that the photographer often got the girls to do suggestive things with their hands. Sometimes it was obvious, sometimes subtle, and sometimes I was not sure if it was intentional or just my imagination. Here are some examples of obvious hand symbolism – and in one case - Angela-Jones3 - with feet. The Susan Douglas one is the most blatant I ever saw. I think this enhanced the pictures by showing that the girl was ‘on the same wavelength’ as the viewer. Here also is an example of one I am not sure about - Susanne Bartlet2 – is that suggestive hand position deliberate? Does anyone else here notice and enjoy these hand gestures by the models, or is it just me? Could we start a new ongoing theme of posting pictures in which the hands are important? And maybe we could also post ones where we are not sure if the hand position was intentional, and offer views on whether it was deliberate or not. Anyone else into this? Last edited by Trouser; September 16th, 2010 at 10:55 AM.. Reason: add pics

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September 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM	#911
hydon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 1,055 Thanked 2,981 Times in 157 Posts	Nicola,not all dup's I hope.

September 16th, 2010, 05:17 PM	#914
Medium2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 367 Thanks: 1,767 Thanked 3,617 Times in 338 Posts	It's an intriguing idea, and if the pics were contemporary, I'd say there was a very good chance you were right. My feeling is that in those more innocent times the girls just needed to be doing something in the pics-hence the props.

September 16th, 2010, 06:53 PM	#915
hobohemian Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 72 Thanks: 936 Thanked 570 Times in 73 Posts	Yes, those were more innocent times and any suggestiveness in the girls' actions or hand positions is I think in the mind of the modern viewer. Actually such an idea had never occurred to me in 40 years of enjoying ToCo's output.

September 16th, 2010, 11:49 PM	#916
hydon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 1,055 Thanked 2,981 Times in 157 Posts	what does this say "look ma no hands".

September 17th, 2010, 01:11 AM	#917
Knickers1 Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northumberland Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 6,268 Thanked 60,408 Times in 2,314 Posts	Regarding posing, I have always been amused and fascinated by the antics of Nicola, Marie and Eve. It always seemed that they were having such fun whilst providing us chaps with saucy entertainment. Nick

September 17th, 2010, 06:05 AM	#918
Knickers1 Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northumberland Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 6,268 Thanked 60,408 Times in 2,314 Posts	Continuing on the posing theme, I think these are rather good. It's a lovely combination, tights, white pants and boots. The rear view is an all time favourite of mine. This is Ken Howard's work as the blanket used to hide the car registration plate is featured in Nicola and Marie's photo sets. I have often wondered if there were any assignments by Ken that features all four girls together. What a spectacle that would have been. Nick

September 17th, 2010, 07:14 AM	#920
Knickers1 Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northumberland Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 6,268 Thanked 60,408 Times in 2,314 Posts	The girl with Ingrid is Lowra Bruni in my last posting. Further exploration into my filing cabinet has revealed two more beauties. Joy Carlton on the step ladders was featured in the storyline, "Top Shelf Talent". Great legs ! And Helena McGuire is the girl showing her lovely big pants and stocking tops. Two girls who I think deserve a posting. Nick