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Old February 1st, 2019, 08:03 PM   #3581
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Opposition to Trump emergency for wall nearly twice as strong as support
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Seventy-one percent of Republicans indicated they would support Trump declaring an emergency to construct the wall, while 93 percent of Democrats and 66 percent of independents said they would oppose such a move.
Peculiar Logic of the Trump-Russia Scandal Deniers
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Their method for dismissing every incremental advance in the investigation is the same. First, they examine every new charge in isolation, ignoring the broader pattern of behavior in which it is contained. Then they assume the most innocent possible interpretation for each isolated fact, further assuming that no other incriminating evidence will emerge. It is not clear whether they have decided to act like lawyers for Trump, presenting the most plausible defense they can muster, or if they simply trust he would never do something like collude with Russia, and are working backward from their heartfelt presumption of innocence. Either way, they have developed a method that allows them to acknowledge every new piece of incriminating evidence without in any way altering their confidence that the investigation is going nowhere.
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Old February 1st, 2019, 10:33 PM   #3582
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Layoffs for about 4,000 salaried staff at General Motors are due to start Monday -- a previously announced move that comes just as President Donald Trump prepares to trumpet American manufacturing at next week's State of the Union address.
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Old February 2nd, 2019, 05:52 AM   #3583
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Roger Stone is facing around 40 years in prison. At his age, a life sentence. Yesterday, the judge threatened him with a gagging order if he doesn't stop talking to the media.

How long before he decides to co-operate with Mueller?
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I just reread the U.S. Constitution. I doubt that the courts would go along with the "national emergency" ploy. The document explicitly states that it is Congress that decides policy and allocates funds. The President does not have the legal right to override Congress and divert funds where ever he likes.

By the way, Mitch McConnell has written resolutions decrying Trump's decision to remove our Troops from Syria and Afghanistan.which passed with almost universal support from Republican senators. This and other defections indicate that Trump is rapidly losing his grip on the Senate. Even Fox News has started to pile on.
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Roger Stone is facing around 40 years in prison. At his age, a life sentence. Yesterday, the judge threatened him with a gagging order if he doesn't stop talking to the media.

How long before he decides to co-operate with Mueller?
When they show him a picture of his cell mate
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Roger Stone is facing around 40 years in prison. At his age, a life sentence. Yesterday, the judge threatened him with a gagging order if he doesn't stop talking to the media.

How long before he decides to co-operate with Mueller?
Knowing Roger Stone, he started to sing the minute he was captured. His defiance is just another lie.
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I will say it like this. Just like you can exploit racism without being racist yourself, you can easily exploit religion without really being religious yourself.

You sure can. Democrats do it all the time. One minute they can call something like a border wall immoral when it suits their agenda.

The next minute they are giving their approval to kill babies when it suits their agenda.

If it wasn't for double standards, Democrats like Pelosi wouldn't have any standards at all. I don't hear too many religious leaders calling her and the other democrats out for that level of blatant murder.
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Trump Keeps Bluffing About Americans Wanting a Wall

The farther away from the 2016 election, the worse the poll figures look for Trump when it comes to how many people support building a wall...
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You sure can. Democrats do it all the time. One minute they can call something like a border wall immoral when it suits their agenda.

The next minute they are giving their approval to kill babies when it suits their agenda.

If it wasn't for double standards, Democrats like Pelosi wouldn't have any standards at all. I don't hear too many religious leaders calling her and the other democrats out for that level of blatant murder.
I think it is very common for people to confuse their opinions with religious principle. It is a variant of the sin of arguing that God is on your side - that is a sin and a very bad one. It is for us to be on God's side, not the other way around; assuming obviously that you believe God exists, which I suspect very many of these ostentiously religious politicians don't believe anyway. Sarah Sanders is guilty of that very big sin when she says she believes God meant Donald Trump to be president - she thinks God is on her side, when it is for her to be faithful to God by honouring and observing the teachings of her professed faith, a thing she does not do. if she were genuinely and sincerely a Christian, she could not serve in Donald Trump's administration, which has flouted all standards of fairness, honesty and integrity, showed no love, no understanding, no humanity and no pity.

The separation of church and state is not only written into the First Amendment; it was also taught by the Man himself during his ministry on earth.
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I take this to mean that while we must try to be moral in our conduct we must also not involve God in our political disagreements.

We British are openly scornful of politicians who make a song and dance of their religion - rightly so. Hypocrisy at this level does not sit well with us.
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