Questions for our American friends

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by palo5

They interfere everywhere they can for at least the last 70 years. It's on public record, unfortunately for them. They can't deny it

The Donald was against this in his campaign. Do Americans think this is why he was elected, remembering Hillary was a typical war-hawk? Are Americans tired of war?

Do you mean the idiotic "Toupee" ?

I think this was at first his slogan "America First" and the announced tax reform, that has cought the "red-necks" & the rich, not the war. Remember he had increased the military budget.
It was much more a Anti-Hillary vote.

With Bernie Sanders as candidate things would have come different, I think.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I look at few as possible the news. Because they are too depressing and they always speak about the side of our Occidental perspective of a "free market" democracy.

But honestly speaking, the troubles in Venezuela, that's one more time the USA administration that tries to help US Oil companies to put their hands on the Venezuelian petrol reserves or not?

Venezuela has been run into the ground by a pound shop version of Juan Peron, the late and unlamented Hugo Chavez. Everyone loves to blame the USA for everything since Noah's flood, but the one stealing Venezuela's oil wealth was actually Hugo and his pals. Now of course, the Saudis have changed their business model and the world crude oil price hovers at between 25% and 30% of 2008 price levels. All the bread and circuses have gone away and Venezuelans are experiencing a bitter awakening.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Venezuela has been run into the ground by a pound shop version of Juan Peron, the late and unlamented Hugo Chavez. Everyone loves to blame the USA for everything since Noah's flood, but the one stealing Venezuela's oil wealth was actually Hugo and his pals. Now of course, the Saudis have changed their business model and the world crude oil price hovers at between 25% and 30% of 2008 price levels. All the bread and circuses have gone away and Venezuelans are experiencing a bitter awakening.

Has Venezuela's handling of the economy been terrible thus driving the current regime's popularity to the floor? Yes. Does that mean that the US should be pushing for regime change over There? Not at all. The US is being opportunist and doing the same things that has sprouted terrorist organizations in the Middle East.

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by palo5

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The Donald was against this in his campaign. Do Americans think this is why he was elected, remembering Hillary was a typical war-hawk? Are Americans tired of war?

Depends on which war you're talking about. Militarily abroad, or socially here at home?

I continue to be amused by folks from abroad who have this notion Hillary was/is a war hawk. She's a democrat, and a liberal.. they're notorious for hating the military and trying to decimate it and it's capability. If she was to carry on Obama's legacy, this wouldn't have been part of it. Other than the goofy 'line in the sand' stuff, her predecessor really never confronted anyone and there was really no reason to think (IMO) she would, if elected.

Well, wait.. one of you will probably say if it was in her big donors interest to land military contracts due to continued and expanded interventions, she do it.

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

Do you mean the idiotic "Toupee" ?

I think this was at first his slogan "America First" and the announced tax reform, that has cought the "red-necks" & the rich, not the war. Remember he had increased the military budget.
It was much more a Anti-Hillary vote.

With Bernie Sanders as candidate things would have come different, I think.

I'm guessing you're not American.. but thanks for trying to answer on our behalf. Other than name calling, I'm not sure what you've said (e.g. tax reform and rednecks?).

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Venezuela has been run into the ground by a pound shop version of Juan Peron, the late and unlamented Hugo Chavez. Everyone loves to blame the USA for everything since Noah's flood, but the one stealing Venezuela's oil wealth was actually Hugo and his pals. Now of course, the Saudis have changed their business model and the world crude oil price hovers at between 25% and 30% of 2008 price levels. All the bread and circuses have gone away and Venezuelans are experiencing a bitter awakening.

Well said.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Decadence

I continue to be amused by folks from abroad who have this notion Hillary was/is a war hawk. She's a democrat, and a liberal.

Democrat yes, but I do not know of any liberal who would be proud to take any advice from Henry Kissenger. Remember the reason the Clinton machine was successful in the 90's was because the liberal tag did not stick to them. It is also the reason it has not worked since the economic collapse.

Originally Posted by Decadence

they're notorious for hating the military and trying to decimate it and it's capability. If she was to carry on Obama's legacy, this wouldn't have been part of it. Other than the goofy 'line in the sand' stuff, her predecessor really never confronted anyone and there was really no reason to think (IMO) she would, if elected.

Well, wait.. one of you will probably say if it was in her big donors interest to land military contracts due to continued and expanded interventions, she do it.

Damn stole my thunder. You mean the Libya regime change does not count? What about Honduras? Syria? I guess because Obama reneged on her red line plans after she left the state dept she can't get credit for that one. One of main reasons she could not beat that Kenyan socialist community organizer from Chicago in 08' was because of her hawkish ways.

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Venezuela has been run into the ground by a pound shop version of Juan Peron, the late and unlamented Hugo Chavez. Everyone loves to blame the USA for everything since Noah's flood, but the one stealing Venezuela's oil wealth was actually Hugo and his pals. Now of course, the Saudis have changed their business model and the world crude oil price hovers at between 25% and 30% of 2008 price levels. All the bread and circuses have gone away and Venezuelans are experiencing a bitter awakening.

Yes, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, ... Venezuela, Honduras and at least the intercepts of the NSA/CIA of Dilma Rousseff (Brasilia) and later her dismissal were only coincidences. (I think my list of countries is more than incomplete).

Venezuela: Terror attacks on planes and on embassies in Latin America , and the lockout of employees of entrepreneurs association in whole industry-branches; all were only coincidences.

If you could believe it, I don't because of the presumptive evidences (.. .too comprising for only one post).

Did the single counties had made massive mistakes in their leadership? Yes of course they did !!! So it seems to be easy to incite the malcontents to violences from outside, if you spend a little sum to push the action..

The only country the "Arab Spring" (for example) was coming from inside is Tunisia as I remember the circumstances as they were the first.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Has Venezuela's handling of the economy been terrible thus driving the current regime's popularity to the floor? Yes. Does that mean that the US should be pushing for regime change over There? Not at all. The US is being opportunist and doing the same things that has sprouted terrorist organizations in the Middle East.

And the worst in this story, is that according several statitics, USA has between 46 to 50 million people living under the poverty line.

The U.S. Has 50 Million Poor People. That's at least 1,5 more people than ALL the Venezuelian population (about 30 millions).

So is it not incredible to listen Donald Trump telling: "The people are suffering and they are dying. We have many options for Venezuela including a possible military option if necessary, ..."

Come on Donald. Clean in front of your door first.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by palo5

They interfere everywhere they can for at least the last 70 years. It's on public record, unfortunately for them. They can't deny it

The Donald was against this in his campaign. Do Americans think this is why he was elected, remembering Hillary was a typical war-hawk? Are Americans tired of war?

The CIA interfering? Of course they do; it's their job. Do the the Russians and Chinese have similar type of people interfering all over the world?

Funny that the Donald campaigned against overseas involvement then filled his administration with the very generals who had been at the forefront of those efforts. But, to answer your question palo5, many Americans are very tired of war and our government meddling in other country's business.

[Motorboater]

Why was the Little River Band popular over there?

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by Motorboater

Why was the Little River Band popular over there?

Sorry, I don't get it.