The Football Thread - Page 1992

**victor meldrew** · April 26th, 2017, 09:20 AM

Just when you thought it could not get any worse HMRC officers have raided WHU and seized Finance records, phones and computers. Several arrests have been made. They have also raided Newcastle and I believe one of those arrested is Mike Ashley, don't know if our three are still at large or under lock and key.

Update

This from the Beeb, I see Dan Roan still hates us.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009

This from Sky

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...nesday-morning

Mike Ashley has not been arrested, one of the other directors under charge.

All sorts of rumours on the social media sites, anything from Newcastle getting 30 million for Sissoko, or our signing of Piquonnes as well as lots of other speculation and nonsense.

**victor meldrew** · April 26th, 2017, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchspur

Been in suicidal mode since Saturday!! The semi-final hoodoo continued.
Anyway now for the 'Implosion' in the league!!

But just a thought!!

Again, as last season, wouldn't it have been more 'interesting' for the couch potatoes, if Spurs had played Palace tonight instead of tomorrow they 'might' have closed the gap to a point and then Chelsea would play tomorrow. With it a 'little' more exciting???

Just a thought!!!

They should both play at he same time, but unfortunately TV & money changes the ball game.
It could have been worse, they could have moved you to Thursday.

**countjimmoriarty** · April 26th, 2017, 12:31 PM

HMRC raid Newcastle and West Ham in fraud investigations. Somebody been cooking the books?

**old alal** · April 26th, 2017, 12:51 PM

Joey "look at how hard I am" Barton banned for 18 months for betting. i just hope it is career ending & I never see him again.

**victor meldrew** · April 26th, 2017, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old alal

Joey "look at how hard I am" Barton banned for 18 months for betting. i just hope it is career ending & I never see him again.

It is rumoured he is unhappy with the punishment as it forces him into early retirement. If true I suspect an appeal to be on the cards.

The latest from the Beeb on this mornings raids.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009

Last two lines are probably the beginning of a rather large can of worms.

**teaktop** · April 26th, 2017, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victor meldrew

It is rumoured he is unhappy with the punishment as it forces him into early retirement. If true I suspect an appeal to be on the cards.

Poker?

**Meini Again** · April 26th, 2017, 10:48 PM

Speculation at the moment, but as already referred to, this could be down to the old ~
"Tax Avoidance v Tax Evasion"

Interestingly, the French Police searched and removed paperwork, computers, mobile phone etc from the big Sports Agency ~
Mondial Sports Management.

They represent:

Bilic
Payet
Cabaye
Debuchy
Thauvin
Cabella
Ben Arfa
Riviere
Mitrovic
Saviet
Sissoko
If these people were paid off-shore, as well as their Agency, thus evading UK and possibly French tax, it will be a huge 'can-of-worms'.

**victor meldrew** · April 26th, 2017, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meini Again

Speculation at the moment, but as already referred to, this could be down to the old ~
"Tax Avoidance v Tax Evasion"

Interestingly, the French Police searched and removed paperwork, computers, mobile phone etc from the big Sports Agency ~
Mondial Sports Management.

They represent:

Bilic
Payet
Cabaye
Debuchy
Thauvin
Cabella
Ben Arfa
Riviere
Mitrovic
Saviet
Sissoko
If these people were paid off-shore, as well as their Agency, thus evading UK and possibly French tax, it will be a huge 'can-of-worms'.

My understanding is todays raids relate to French football transfers, however as well as 43 players, 12 clubs and eight agents currently under investigation a further 100+ players are also under investigation regarding image rights, which apparently includes most of the current England squad.
Watch this space.

**Meini Again** · April 27th, 2017, 12:48 AM

On a bit of a lateral....

When Sullivan / Gold owned Blues, they came across Barry Fry ~ more of a 'showman' than an intelligent football manager.
Sullivan said Fry was like a kid-in-a-sweetshop, buying and selling players week upon week. He had, at one time 47 players on our books. Old older than 21 so no outlet for Academy kids.
Sullivan found out that Fry, who was in charge of all incomings and outgoings, contracts and wages etc... was getting a percentage when he bought and when he sold.
It wasn't illegal at that point. Just money that Sullivan and Gold weren't getting. So, the Lady Karren was put in charge of contracts.
She set all the figures, wages transfer fees paid and saught.

I just wonder if she retained 'oversight' of player/manager contracts when she moved upto the board at West Ham ?
Might be a difficult position for the fragrant Brady ~~ if this issue is about tax-evasion/avoidance.
When Wigan eventually brought Steve Bruce as manager for £3million, Brady went public and demanded Bruce return the £150,000 paid in advance for his "image rights"... the mind boggles...

Bruce apparently hasn't spoken to her nor mentioned her by name, since.

The Lady Karren will be familiar with both wages and 'image rights'.
As Vic says...watch this space.

**Meini Again** · April 27th, 2017, 12:52 AM

On a bit of a lateral....

When Sullivan / Gold owned Blues, they came across Barry Fry ~ more of a 'showman' than an intelligent football manager.
Sullivan said Fry was like a kid-in-a-sweetshop, buying and selling players week upon week. He had, at one time 47 players on our books. ALL older than 21 so no outlet for Academy kids.
Sullivan found out that Fry, who was in charge of all incomings and outgoings, contracts and wages etc... was getting a percentage when he bought and when he sold.
It wasn't illegal at that point. Just money that Sullivan and Gold weren't getting. So, the Lady Karren was put in charge of contracts.
She set all the figures, wages transfer fees paid and saught.

I just wonder if she retained 'oversight' of player/manager contracts when she moved upto the board at West Ham ?
Might be a difficult position for the fragrant Brady ~~ if this issue is about tax-evasion/avoidance.
When Wigan eventually brought Steve Bruce as manager for £3million, Brady went public and demanded Bruce return the £150,000 paid in advance for his "image rights"... the mind boggles...

Bruce apparently hasn't spoken to her nor mentioned her by name, since.

The Lady Karren will be familiar with both wages and 'image rights'.
As Vic says...watch this space.

April 26th, 2017, 09:20 AM	#19911
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,776 Thanks: 531,841 Thanked 179,897 Times in 15,764 Posts	Just when you thought it could not get any worse HMRC officers have raided WHU and seized Finance records, phones and computers. Several arrests have been made. They have also raided Newcastle and I believe one of those arrested is Mike Ashley, don't know if our three are still at large or under lock and key. Update This from the Beeb, I see Dan Roan still hates us. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39716009 This from Sky http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...nesday-morning Mike Ashley has not been arrested, one of the other directors under charge. All sorts of rumours on the social media sites, anything from Newcastle getting 30 million for Sissoko, or our signing of Piquonnes as well as lots of other speculation and nonsense. Last edited by victor meldrew; April 26th, 2017 at 12:09 PM..

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Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,826 Times in 3,566 Posts	Tax Raids Speculation at the moment, but as already referred to, this could be down to the old ~ "Tax Avoidance v Tax Evasion" Interestingly, the French Police searched and removed paperwork, computers, mobile phone etc from the big Sports Agency ~ Mondial Sports Management. They represent: Bilic Payet Cabaye Debuchy Thauvin Cabella Ben Arfa Riviere Mitrovic Saviet Sissoko If these people were paid off-shore, as well as their Agency, thus evading UK and possibly French tax, it will be a huge 'can-of-worms'.

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April 26th, 2017, 12:31 PM	#19913
countjimmoriarty Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,982 Thanks: 6,384 Thanked 22,666 Times in 2,911 Posts	HMRC raid Newcastle and West Ham in fraud investigations. Somebody been cooking the books?

April 27th, 2017, 12:48 AM	#19919
Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,826 Times in 3,566 Posts	On a bit of a lateral.... When Sullivan / Gold owned Blues, they came across Barry Fry ~ more of a 'showman' than an intelligent football manager. Sullivan said Fry was like a kid-in-a-sweetshop, buying and selling players week upon week. He had, at one time 47 players on our books. Old older than 21 so no outlet for Academy kids. Sullivan found out that Fry, who was in charge of all incomings and outgoings, contracts and wages etc... was getting a percentage when he bought and when he sold. It wasn't illegal at that point. Just money that Sullivan and Gold weren't getting. So, the Lady Karren was put in charge of contracts. She set all the figures, wages transfer fees paid and saught. I just wonder if she retained 'oversight' of player/manager contracts when she moved upto the board at West Ham ? Might be a difficult position for the fragrant Brady ~~ if this issue is about tax-evasion/avoidance. When Wigan eventually brought Steve Bruce as manager for £3million, Brady went public and demanded Bruce return the £150,000 paid in advance for his "image rights"... the mind boggles... Bruce apparently hasn't spoken to her nor mentioned her by name, since. The Lady Karren will be familiar with both wages and 'image rights'. As Vic says...watch this space.

April 27th, 2017, 12:52 AM	#19920
Meini Again Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: North Wales Posts: 3,637 Thanks: 32,358 Thanked 31,826 Times in 3,566 Posts	On a bit of a lateral.... When Sullivan / Gold owned Blues, they came across Barry Fry ~ more of a 'showman' than an intelligent football manager. Sullivan said Fry was like a kid-in-a-sweetshop, buying and selling players week upon week. He had, at one time 47 players on our books. ALL older than 21 so no outlet for Academy kids. Sullivan found out that Fry, who was in charge of all incomings and outgoings, contracts and wages etc... was getting a percentage when he bought and when he sold. It wasn't illegal at that point. Just money that Sullivan and Gold weren't getting. So, the Lady Karren was put in charge of contracts. She set all the figures, wages transfer fees paid and saught. I just wonder if she retained 'oversight' of player/manager contracts when she moved upto the board at West Ham ? Might be a difficult position for the fragrant Brady ~~ if this issue is about tax-evasion/avoidance. When Wigan eventually brought Steve Bruce as manager for £3million, Brady went public and demanded Bruce return the £150,000 paid in advance for his "image rights"... the mind boggles... Bruce apparently hasn't spoken to her nor mentioned her by name, since. The Lady Karren will be familiar with both wages and 'image rights'. As Vic says...watch this space.