The Football Thread - Page 1004

**victor meldrew** · February 17th, 2013, 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=buttsie;2376005]That illustrates the new fairplay rules perfectly

Biggest stadium wins handsdown

Arsenal finishes runner-up again....LOL

Will be interesting to see if Arsenal with their 60,000 seater start to get a bit more loyalty from their stars given match day revenue is not included in the fairplay rules.

105million in losses over 3 years pretty much means the billionaire tools can no longer buy players like cattle and dispense with them like turds down a toilet.

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Arsenal should be the one team that really benefits from the new fair play rules, IF they are enforced.

Man Utd a currently hamstrung with paying off the Glaziers debt, which goes some way to limiting what they can spend, without that debt, even Arsenal would not get near them.

New stadiums would appear to be a must for some teams, Everton, Liverpool and Spurs, while the mega rich owners teams Chelsea and City would also need new homes.

As for the rest, could they afford to take the risk, perhaps Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland, but for the rest, it would be a big risk.

My own mob are looking to the OS and it will be a case of filling 60000 seats, although part of the plan is for afforable seating (10000). The only other problem with bigger stadium, is the Johnny newcomers, who have little idea about game, but can brag about the support.

**Jeff Vader** · February 17th, 2013, 09:33 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...income-profits

WARNING: Silly numbers therein

My club: Wolves, for their last season in the premier league in 2011-12 had a turnover of 60 million.
Uniteds Wage bill for the same period was 160 million.

**richardoe** · February 17th, 2013, 09:43 AM

A has been said theres nothing to stop a team from one country playing in another countrys league. All the top Welsh clubs play in England, Berwick Rangers play in Scotland, Gretna played in the Northern Premier League until the early nineties.

However if Rangers and/or Celtic were to apply to play in the league then I would want them to start in the conference. Personally I wouldnt want them though, why? Too much sectarianism.

Eiledon · February 17th, 2013, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

Rangers 1 loss in the 3rd tier was against the bottom team at the time - says it all really

Sevco play in the fourth tier in Scottish Football.

**qwerty007** · February 17th, 2013, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

That illustrates the new fairplay rules perfectly

If their stadium is like Man Cities and only holds 47,000 one might expect and exodus of their stars or very few new signings

Shouldn't be a problem for City, as soon as they sign that new deal for tea cozies with the word ETIHAD emblazoned on them, that'll bring them in 500 million pounds - but only for the next 4 years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-deal-improper

(I jest - but it is quite original

)

**footstep** · February 19th, 2013, 07:22 AM

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**footstep** · February 20th, 2013, 06:25 AM

No suprise yesterday.Bayern was stronger.Arsene annus horribilis......

westernlover47 · February 20th, 2013, 07:18 AM

Arsenal did very little defensively and Bayern's early pressure told. I think Arsenal hadn't got the the FA Cup exit well out of their systems., and I think it showed. I wouldn't be surpriswed if Bayern had seen that game and thought to themselves 'Well that's the way to beat them.'
As for Wenger the plan to to play a weakened side in the cup game in the hope of winning last night certainly backfired in spectacular fashion didn't it? I think he'd be far better off managing the French rugby team!!
I don't think Arsenal's coped well with the pressure and the early goals they gave away are pretty much in the schoolboy error department.

**victor meldrew** · February 20th, 2013, 10:19 AM

Arsenal in front of goal were little better, Giroud probably missing the chance of the night, that would have made things so different.

But in reality this is the Arsenal of the last eight years, at times superb football, but let down by missed chances and schoolboy defending.

What,s more noticable is since David Dein left the club, it has all gone wrong trophy wise, as he seemed to control who they bought and the contracts and without him Wenger has too much on his plate?

**footstep** · February 21st, 2013, 06:19 AM

Milan ac 2 0 Barca!!!But the first goal isn't clearly.An italian touches the ball with the hands.Everyone saw it except referees??? ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k3wfgh7I4I

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February 17th, 2013, 08:31 AM	#10031
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,778 Thanks: 531,920 Thanked 180,035 Times in 15,766 Posts	[QUOTE=buttsie;2376005]That illustrates the new fairplay rules perfectly Biggest stadium wins handsdown Arsenal finishes runner-up again....LOL Will be interesting to see if Arsenal with their 60,000 seater start to get a bit more loyalty from their stars given match day revenue is not included in the fairplay rules. 105million in losses over 3 years pretty much means the billionaire tools can no longer buy players like cattle and dispense with them like turds down a toilet. QUOTE] Arsenal should be the one team that really benefits from the new fair play rules, IF they are enforced. Man Utd a currently hamstrung with paying off the Glaziers debt, which goes some way to limiting what they can spend, without that debt, even Arsenal would not get near them. New stadiums would appear to be a must for some teams, Everton, Liverpool and Spurs, while the mega rich owners teams Chelsea and City would also need new homes. As for the rest, could they afford to take the risk, perhaps Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland, but for the rest, it would be a big risk. My own mob are looking to the OS and it will be a case of filling 60000 seats, although part of the plan is for afforable seating (10000). The only other problem with bigger stadium, is the Johnny newcomers, who have little idea about game, but can brag about the support.

February 17th, 2013, 09:43 AM	#10033
richardoe Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,812 Thanks: 1,424 Thanked 24,132 Times in 2,726 Posts	A has been said theres nothing to stop a team from one country playing in another countrys league. All the top Welsh clubs play in England, Berwick Rangers play in Scotland, Gretna played in the Northern Premier League until the early nineties. However if Rangers and/or Celtic were to apply to play in the league then I would want them to start in the conference. Personally I wouldnt want them though, why? Too much sectarianism.

February 19th, 2013, 07:22 AM	#10036
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February 20th, 2013, 06:25 AM	#10037
footstep Lost luggages? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: France Posts: 7,268 Thanks: 92,097 Thanked 86,765 Times in 7,170 Posts	No suprise yesterday.Bayern was stronger.Arsene annus horribilis......

February 20th, 2013, 07:18 AM	#10038
westernlover47 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: England Posts: 241 Thanks: 58 Thanked 1,987 Times in 196 Posts	Arsenal did very little defensively and Bayern's early pressure told. I think Arsenal hadn't got the the FA Cup exit well out of their systems., and I think it showed. I wouldn't be surpriswed if Bayern had seen that game and thought to themselves 'Well that's the way to beat them.' As for Wenger the plan to to play a weakened side in the cup game in the hope of winning last night certainly backfired in spectacular fashion didn't it? I think he'd be far better off managing the French rugby team!! I don't think Arsenal's coped well with the pressure and the early goals they gave away are pretty much in the schoolboy error department.

February 20th, 2013, 10:19 AM	#10039
victor meldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: At the bottom of an empty glass Posts: 15,778 Thanks: 531,920 Thanked 180,035 Times in 15,766 Posts	Arsenal in front of goal were little better, Giroud probably missing the chance of the night, that would have made things so different. But in reality this is the Arsenal of the last eight years, at times superb football, but let down by missed chances and schoolboy defending. What,s more noticable is since David Dein left the club, it has all gone wrong trophy wise, as he seemed to control who they bought and the contracts and without him Wenger has too much on his plate?

February 21st, 2013, 06:19 AM	#10040
footstep Lost luggages? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: France Posts: 7,268 Thanks: 92,097 Thanked 86,765 Times in 7,170 Posts	Milan ac 2 0 Barca!!!But the first goal isn't clearly.An italian touches the ball with the hands.Everyone saw it except referees??? ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k3wfgh7I4I