Windows 7 folder sorting options.......

~~bigbobnobody~~ · November 27th, 2013, 03:33 AM

I was wondering if some you kind technophiles, might be able to either
help me with something that bugs the heck out of me while viewing my
folders, or at least let me know if I could do something about it or not.

Here's the deal. I open a folder, let's say full of pictures. I'm working on
a number of those pictures in photoshop for instance, and as I finish one,
I close it in the program and save it back to that same folder, replacing the
original with the one I'd just edited, before moving on to the next picture
that I already have opened in photoshop. Just before I begin to work on the
next photo though, I remember something that I wanted to add to the photo
I just saved and closed, so go back to my opened folder to find it.

Here's the thing......I don't want to HAVE to "find" it. I want it to be first
in line, having sorted things in the folder, by "date modified". Wait......let
me re-phrase that......I WANT to sort things in that folder by date modified,
but.......that option is not available, unless I right click in an open space
of that folder, click on the "sort by" option, then the part that really bugs
me, have to choose the "more" option, to run the a whole stinkin' list of
parameters trying to hunt down "date modified", check it's box, then start
all over again before I can be able to actually choose "date modified" as a
way to sort everything in that folder. It's a pain in the ass, because after
I chose that option to sort by that way, then come back to that folder a
day or two later, I have to go thru the whole stinkin routine all over again,
because rather than "date modified" being a part of the options, it will have
resorted back to only giving me the choice between, "date", "type", "size"
and the totally worthless "tags".

What I'd like to know is, is there a way, to permanently make "date modified".
a part of my folder options, without having to hunt it down each time I
am looking for something in my folders? And for that matter, a way to
banish that "stinkin" neo "tags" option, to oblivion lol. I figured if anyone
would know something about this type of thing, it would be you fellas in here.
Thanks!

**lagerlout** · November 27th, 2013, 03:48 AM

when you open a folder there should be an organize option in the menu across the top.

Then go to " folder and search options " You can set it to open again as you left it the last time

You should be able to dump the tags option by unticking it

~~bigbobnobody~~ · November 27th, 2013, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagerlout

when you open a folder there should be an organize option in the menu across the top.

Then go to " folder and search options " You can set it to open again as you left it the last time

You should be able to dump the tags option by unticking it

I agree......you should.......but it doesn't. It reverts back to the way it
was, after the folder is closed, then re-opened again.

**lagerlout** · November 28th, 2013, 01:30 AM

That sucks .... what on earth could be over riding " Folder Options " ?

Artsey · November 28th, 2013, 06:42 AM

I use ACDSee to do what you describe. I virtually never use explorer windows except for very simple things. Also I never save an image I'm working on except as a bitmap. If you do what you said "work on an image, save it then open again for more work degrades the image every time you save it if it's a jpeg.

**MrInBetween** · November 28th, 2013, 08:27 AM

I had a problem where I had a folder that was always arranging itself by 'date modified' and I wanted it to be sorted by 'date created'. This required ticking that option using the 'More Details' box. The sort order, along with that column, would disappear, not every time I closed the folder but every other day or so. The strange thing is that now it seems to have stuck (touch wood). This is speculation but possibly something has caused it to be fixed, and you might be able to bring about a similar result with some experimentation.

I keep the folder in the 'Large Icons' view, but I changed it to 'Details' to add the extra column and to sort, then changed it back. Does that help?

I also changed the folder's icon using 'Properties>Customize>Change Icon'. Did that do it?

On a different note, I looked in my copy of 'Windows 7 Inside Out' (Ed Bott et al) and it said:

Quote:

Regardless of the view settings you've chosen for a folder, you can adjust the way its contents are displayed at any time by changing the sort order, filtering the contents to include only selected items based on one or more properties, and grouping and arranging the contents by a particular heading. These arrangements are not saved as part of the view for a folder, but the result can be dragged to the Favorites group in the navigation pane and saved for recall.

The first sentence seems to say that the sort order shouldn't persist at all, but in my experience it does. What the second part means I can't figure out: you can create multiple Favorites for a single folder, but they don't have different sort orders.

~~bigbobnobody~~ · November 28th, 2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagerlout

That sucks .... what on earth could be over riding " Folder Options " ?

Gosh I know! It does suck! lol It's really not all that big of a deal I guess,
but you know how it can get when some little thing starts to annoy ya.
What it does though, is stay the way I changed it, till I close it, but then
a few hours later......back to the way it was, with having to search for
thru that long list of folder modifications to tick the ones I want to be able
to chose from quickly, and do away with the ones I never use. Of course
it's not a big deal on folders with just a few things in them, but some folders
with hundreds of pictures in it, make it a chore to find the item I'm looking
for.

~~bigbobnobody~~ · November 28th, 2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrInBetween

I had a problem where I had a folder that was always arranging itself by 'date modified' and I wanted it to be sorted by 'date created'. This required ticking that option using the 'More Details' box. The sort order, along with that column, would disappear, not every time I closed the folder but every other day or so. The strange thing is that now it seems to have stuck (touch wood). This is speculation but possibly something has caused it to be fixed, and you might be able to bring about a similar result with some experimentation.

I keep the folder in the 'Large Icons' view, but I changed it to 'Details' to add the extra column and to sort, then changed it back. Does that help?

I also changed the folder's icon using 'Properties>Customize>Change Icon'. Did that do it?

On a different note, I looked in my copy of 'Windows 7 Inside Out' (Ed Bott et al) and it said:The first sentence seems to say that the sort order shouldn't persist at all, but in my experience it does. What the second part means I can't figure out: you can create multiple Favorites for a single folder, but they don't have different sort orders.

I like to keep my picture folders as large icons too, so I can see them.
I change both the "view", and "order" of the folders, by right clicking, then
either clicking on view, or sort by before going on to those options.

The way I'm reading the quote from your 'Windows 7 Inside Out' book,
it's basically telling me that I can certainly change how I see and order
things within a folder, but that it'll ultimately resort back to the way the
view and order of those folder items originally were displayed.

**MrInBetween** · November 28th, 2013, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbobnobody

The way I'm reading the quote from your 'Windows 7 Inside Out' book, it's basically telling me that I can certainly change how I see and order things within a folder, but that it'll ultimately resort back to the way the view and order of those folder items originally were displayed.

But what puzzles me is 'the result can be dragged to the Favorites group in the navigation pane and saved for recall'. If that could be done, it would make things easier, but I don't see how to do it.

~~bigbobnobody~~ · November 28th, 2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artsey

I use ACDSee to do what you describe. I virtually never use explorer windows except for very simple things. Also I never save an image I'm working on except as a bitmap. If you do what you said "work on an image, save it then open again for more work degrades the image every time you save it if it's a jpeg.

Now that sounds interesting, but sounds to be maybe a pain in the ass to
use at this point, with hundreds of folders and thousands of images. Not sure
exactly how it works, but I'd think that using a program, like that, that everything
would have to be RE-organized, to basically match the way I have it already.
I have no clue if things actually work like that with ACDSee, but if not, I
might just be willing to give it a stab.

As far as saving images as Bitmaps as opposed to JPEGS........
By me saying that I may open and close a picture several times before
being satisfied with the end results, I mean maybe 5-10 times.......not
several hundred times. I can tell no noticeable difference in picture quality
so far, but then I'm also saving pictures sometimes that are over 5000 pixels
wide, and with a photoshop quality setting maxed out at 12 too. That sure
makes sense though, and I'll certainly consider starting to save those larger
"template" type of pics that I eventually shrink down a bit before I share them
online, to bitmaps, with only the smaller pics to share as jpegs.

November 27th, 2013, 03:33 AM	#1
~~bigbobnobody~~ Banned! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: not here Posts: 3,018 Thanks: 4,467 Thanked 94,236 Times in 3,111 Posts	Windows 7 folder sorting options....... I was wondering if some you kind technophiles, might be able to either help me with something that bugs the heck out of me while viewing my folders, or at least let me know if I could do something about it or not. Here's the deal. I open a folder, let's say full of pictures. I'm working on a number of those pictures in photoshop for instance, and as I finish one, I close it in the program and save it back to that same folder, replacing the original with the one I'd just edited, before moving on to the next picture that I already have opened in photoshop. Just before I begin to work on the next photo though, I remember something that I wanted to add to the photo I just saved and closed, so go back to my opened folder to find it. Here's the thing......I don't want to HAVE to "find" it. I want it to be first in line, having sorted things in the folder, by "date modified". Wait......let me re-phrase that......I WANT to sort things in that folder by date modified, but.......that option is not available, unless I right click in an open space of that folder, click on the "sort by" option, then the part that really bugs me, have to choose the "more" option, to run the a whole stinkin' list of parameters trying to hunt down "date modified", check it's box, then start all over again before I can be able to actually choose "date modified" as a way to sort everything in that folder. It's a pain in the ass, because after I chose that option to sort by that way, then come back to that folder a day or two later, I have to go thru the whole stinkin routine all over again, because rather than "date modified" being a part of the options, it will have resorted back to only giving me the choice between, "date", "type", "size" and the totally worthless "tags". What I'd like to know is, is there a way, to permanently make "date modified". a part of my folder options, without having to hunt it down each time I am looking for something in my folders? And for that matter, a way to banish that "stinkin" neo "tags" option, to oblivion lol. I figured if anyone would know something about this type of thing, it would be you fellas in here. Thanks!

November 27th, 2013, 03:48 AM	#2
lagerlout Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 31,568 Thanked 73,340 Times in 4,399 Posts	when you open a folder there should be an organize option in the menu across the top. Then go to " folder and search options " You can set it to open again as you left it the last time You should be able to dump the tags option by unticking it __________________ Nice girls are nice but BAD gals are much much better To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Please Pm me with any of my links that are not working. Please do not repost my links To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

November 28th, 2013, 01:30 AM	#4
lagerlout Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 31,568 Thanked 73,340 Times in 4,399 Posts	That sucks .... what on earth could be over riding " Folder Options " ? __________________ Nice girls are nice but BAD gals are much much better To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Please Pm me with any of my links that are not working. Please do not repost my links To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

November 28th, 2013, 06:42 AM	#5
Artsey Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 89 Thanks: 8,101 Thanked 613 Times in 83 Posts	I use ACDSee to do what you describe. I virtually never use explorer windows except for very simple things. Also I never save an image I'm working on except as a bitmap. If you do what you said "work on an image, save it then open again for more work degrades the image every time you save it if it's a jpeg.