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Old June 16th, 2019, 03:42 AM   #11
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Being provocative is one thing. Gender bending with a tranny is no way to titillate a straight crowd. It's called "Jumping the Shark". Playboy is just one of many enterprises to bite the dust due to the internet. It was bound to happen, although silly marketing and content miss hits may have sped up the demise. In the grand scheme of things, I think it's no great loss.
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While I do welcome the diversity that we've gotten as of late with the featuring of models of color and models with non-traditional body types (curvier women), I can not stand with the inclusion of transgendered women as Playmates and it looks like we are going be getting a second transgender Playmate in August.

At the end of the day, Playboy is marketed towards heterosexual men and while the writers can take whatever stance they want on LGBTQ issues, I believe that the monthly Playmate or featured model needs to be a cis-gendered woman, who was born with a vagina and developed breasts during puberty. I, as a heterosexual male, am not interested in seeing a man or trans person as the monthly centerfold or featured model and I would guess that 100% of heterosexual men agree with me.

Simply, If you have or had a penis, you don't get to be naked in Playboy. Write an article if you need to but keep your nudes to yourself or publish them to your target audience.

Since bringing back nudity, Playboy is adopted this pre-1971, style of nudity where the pubic/vaginal area is either not shown or shadowed out. The last Playmate to pose with her vagina fully visible was Kristy Garrett in February of 2016.

I found this strange at first but I now I fully understand that this is to allow them to publish transgendered women without having deal with issue of genitalia. Although, I think Playboy is eventually going to be stupid enough to publish a transgendered Playmate with a visible penis one day.

This is foolishness, I bet Playgirl isn't going to feature Ana Cheri as their monthly centerfold while asking for gender equality. Gay men would have a fit if they opened that site and saw Ana's naked body front and center.
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Old June 18th, 2019, 04:57 PM   #13
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keep hold of your old pb mags... they could be worth a lot on e bay or amazon one day
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Playboy died when they stopped setting trends and started folowing them.


And I agree wholeheartedly with Jake and Shark... piss poor marketing strategies and a failure to leverage their core competencies has done them in.
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hmm, a guy in bunny suit, a transgender centerfold? If you guys had any idea how long we've been fooled your head on your shoulders would explode.
It seems I've been beating a dead horse but in all seriousness there is a difference between a male skeletal bone structure vs female bone structure...so what I'm saying is ...we all agree women should have a uterus and ovaries.
Well good ol' Hef was in on the joke too, very early on. Check out these researchers on Youtube or keep your head in the sand.
Transpocalypse Now..first channel to point out the agenda...great research
Epic Sellouts - dude is hilarious ripping the trannys apart
Michelle Y - doctor in L.A. who helped maintain the celebrity deception
Truthful Spirit-Blue Heron..former actress who points out the trannys in hollywood
German Videos - great channel
Conspiracies By Hans - grew up in a satanic family of twisted gender

this shit is very deep rooted, this is the "New Age"...
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Playboy died when they stopped setting trends and started folowing them.
If you look at it from an early/mid-1970s perspective, Playboy actually got quite good in following the photographic trend set by Penthouse. They had quite a few good pictorials; Playmates and models got more revealing and suggestive in their poses than they had been until that point.

I'm not sure when the bunny magazine died for me, but when I was finally old enough (around 1985) to buy the magazine on my own, I remember being somewhat disappointed in that, uh, articles aside, the models (or at least how they were photographed), just were not as interesting or erotic as what I grew up on. When my hormones kicked in around 12-13 years of age, I discovered the Pets and Playmates of the 1970s, and that era and style made a lasting impression. I haven't read a recent issue in 20 years. And that was a complimentary one year subscription (I used the Cyber Club and shopped from their catalog at the time). Before that, I stopped buying Playboy around 1992, namely for being disappointed month-after-month by the pictorials.

Playboy kept up with the times along the way, yes -- but not always in a good way. It meant more and more of their models were less natural, multiple tattoos and piercings became the norm. Playmates became overexposed (amplified even more so with social media) or headliners for the wrong reasons. Diversity is fine, but certain diversity is best left to specialty sites and publications catering for that sort of thing.
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I'd have to imagine Playboy's high water mark in terms of sales was in the 1970's. Even by the end of the 1970's other mags like Penthouse, Hustler, Oui, Swank and the like made Playboy look hopelessly tame in terms of sheer explicitness.

Was still, as Sharkhunter said, a decent mag through the 1980's and into the 1990's. The running joke always was "I read Playboy, but only for the articles" though in truth Playboy DID have good articles.

In the mid 1990's, even before the net became widely available, Playboy just ran out of steam. You got "celebrities" like LaToya Jackson posing for nude spreads...by the time 2000 rolled around, nobody gave a shit about Playboy anymore. As Sharkhunter also said, several years back Playboy tried to go the non-nude route, but they ended up coming off like a Maxim magazine wannabe (and by that point even Maxim wasn't selling magazines anymore).

I tend to doubt there's really much of anything Playboy can do to revive itself, and virtually none of that has to do with Hefner having died, because that magazine has been slowly swirling down the spiral for a couple of decades. If a celeb wants to put out nude pics, they either "leak" or just flat-out post them online via social media. Magazine sales across the board, and print media in general, has been on the wane for the last decade.
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Old August 2nd, 2019, 11:37 PM   #18
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A more realistic view of PB's future.

Neither pro nor con.... just nuetral


But a view of PBs recent history, changing demographics and the current environment.

NO Hysteria and NO Predujice ~ just factual analysis from the NYT.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/b...llennials.html

A good read - imo

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yeah that article sums up where the mag is headed---basically a glossy quarterly 'catalog' for the brand business. comparing it to Gwyneth Paltrow's "Goop" is accurate, except Goop might have better looking women in it at some point.


the new editorial team are the kind of people---late 20s, think they're 'revolutionizing' an old brand, in truth have no clue about anything---who talk a big game and get laid off en masse in a year's time. I really wish they'd just pull the plug on the magazine when that happens.


what's frustrating is that whoever owns the back catalog/archives has a gold mine of stuff. your favorite playmate? there's probably hundreds of unseen photos of her. Hours of video outtakes. heck, all the long-out-of-print DVDs and VHS things. Are they just going to sit on that stuff, until everyone who remembers the great old Playboy has passed on? Just a waste. Open up a 'Playboy classic' site, charge a subscription, and become the Spotify of vintage Playboy material. I'd sign up.
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They need to really go after notable celebrities again regardless of cost.
Offer to donate to specific charities the actress is concerned about and have her discuss it in the interview that accompanies her pics. That might morally cancel out the feminist reasons many modern left leaning actresses would object to being in the mag over.

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what's frustrating is that whoever owns the back catalog/archives has a gold mine of stuff. your favorite playmate? there's probably hundreds of unseen photos of her. Hours of video outtakes. heck, all the long-out-of-print DVDs and VHS things. Are they just going to sit on that stuff, until everyone who remembers the great old Playboy has passed on? Just a waste. Open up a 'Playboy classic' site, charge a subscription, and become the Spotify of vintage Playboy material. I'd sign up.
THIS! SERIOUSLY!
Just a week or so ago I saw a guy on another site talking about how we can't find good HQ scans of these fantastic Shannon Elizabeth shots that are sexier and more fun then any of the main Playboy pics she took.

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