Rental Movies Missing Scenes You Remember from the Theater

**Xexemedes** · March 15th, 2011, 03:10 AM

The GF and I recently rented "Falling Down" starring Michale Douglas and Robert Duvall. The film came out circa 1991. It is about a recently divorced man who encounters a series of "everyday" life problems one after the other and begins to go a bit off the deep end.

There was a scene in the film that I remember in the theater where Douglas is in a fast food restaurant trying to order breakfast about three minutes after they stop serving breakfast. The waitress and the manager both tell him he has to order lunch (so far so good). In the theater version, Douglas points to a couple of left-over breakfast sandwiches still under the hot lights and asks for one of those-stating he will pay for it. They refuse to sell him one, even though they are just going to throw the food away, and he starts to lose it. The DVD had the fast food scene without the crucial moment of him seeing the food he wanted but being denied it anyway. By removing that one piece of dialog from the film Douglas goes from being a sympathetic character that we can all relate to, to a raving irrational maniac. WTH???

In Family Guy's first Star Wars parody "Blue Harvest" there was a great joke after the trash compactor scene where Han (Peter) finds a couch and he and Chewie (Brian) take the couch back to the Millennium Falcon. After flying away Darth (Stewie) and Tarkin (Adam West) are watching on the bridge and Darth informs Tarkin that not only did they get away but they had Tarkin's couch: "the one with the grape juice stain from movie night" (or very close to that) that line made me laugh so hard the first time I saw it. A recent viewing of the same cartoon was minus that one line!!!! Cutting a clean one liner from a cartoon DVD with many off color jokes seems a frivolous waste of editing to me.

WTH???

Finally, everyone thinks I'm crazy on this one: but I swear the first time I saw Jaws there was a scene where Quint went to a music store to buy the piano wire he used as fishing line. A kid in the store was playing scales on some instrument (piano?) and Quint loudly joined him singing the scales. I bought the remastered DVD (the one where you can actually see the nude swimmer

) I watched all the extras on it and there was no music store scene. I admit I haven't searched on line for this-I might tonight. When I buy or rent a DVD I am hoping there are lots of extras-even the scenes that were "too boring" for the final edit. The making of Jaws is almost as fascinating as the movie itself and the story is almost as well known.

So my question stands: has anyone else noticed different edits, or missing scenes, or incomplete dialogs they know were in the original films? What was the film? What are the scenes? Please tell me it is not just me.

Davros · March 15th, 2011, 03:22 AM

You're not mad - it happens more than you think!! For example "The Wanderers" - great film! But some prints will show the body-builder father beating up his artistic son during the Ducky Boys fight, and some won't. If you don't see that scene, you'll wonder why he chooses to leave home.

In "The Princess Bride" there's a scene where the Albino talks to Westley - he rasps and croaks, and then clears his throat, only to speak normally. Maybe they didn't want to pay Mel Smith royalties for a speaking part?

**USBPepsi** · March 15th, 2011, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Xexemedes

In Family Guy's first Star Wars parody "Blue Harvest" there was a great joke after the trash compactor scene where Han (Peter) finds a couch and he and Chewie (Brian) take the couch back to the Millennium Falcon. After flying away Darth (Stewie) and Tarkin (Adam West) are watching on the bridge and Darth informs Tarkin that not only did they get away but they had Tarkin's couch: "the one with the grape juice stain from movie night" (or very close to that) that line made me laugh so hard the first time I saw it. A recent viewing of the same cartoon was minus that one line!!!! Cutting a clean one liner from a cartoon DVD with many off color jokes seems a frivolous waste of editing to me.

WTH???

Did you see the version with the "grape juice" line on broadcast TV? I ask because Family Guy is fairly complicated. They often have a full uncensored version for DVD, and then on Fox they will cut out some of the naughtier jokes... but ADD a couple of clean jokes to get the running time back up.

So you may have heard that extra couch joke because they wanted to fill in where they'd cut a raunchy gag.

It gets even more complicated in syndication. Basically it runs like this:

1) DVD - Full-length, unedited episode.
2) Cartoon Network's Adult Swim - Not censored (except for "fuck"s), but still shortened a little to make room for their "acceptable" amount of commercials.
3) Fox - Almost complete episodes, with just a little bit of the naughtiest material saved for Adult Swim and DVD.
3) Some cable stations (such as TBS) - Usually almost identical to the Fox version.
4) Local TV syndication - Slashed ALL to hell, both for standards AND to add even more commercials (I won't even watch those episodes with my wife, though she doesn't mind; my problem is that I remember every bit that has been cut when I see an episode, and get pissed off each time).

**USBPepsi** · March 15th, 2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Xexemedes

Finally, everyone thinks I'm crazy on this one: but I swear the first time I saw Jaws there was a scene where Quint went to a music store to buy the piano wire he used as fishing line. A kid in the store was playing scales on some instrument (piano?) and Quint loudly joined him singing the scales. I bought the remastered DVD (the one where you can actually see the nude swimmer

) I watched all the extras on it and there was no music store scene. I admit I haven't searched on line for this-I might tonight. When I buy or rent a DVD I am hoping there are lots of extras-even the scenes that were "too boring" for the final edit. The making of Jaws is almost as fascinating as the movie itself and the story is almost as well known.

Sure, I've seen the music shop scene. I think it was included in the deleted scenes on either the 25th Anniversary or the 30th Anniversary DVD (but probably not both, which is why you didn't see it on your copy). They also may have included it in the two-hour "making of" documentary. But wherever you saw it, the scene is definitely real. In fact, here it is on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSiIqRsyek

Nice not to be crazy, isn't it?

**USBPepsi** · March 15th, 2011, 04:18 AM

Speaking of Jaws, when I saw the god-awful sequel Jaws: The Revenge in the theater, Mario Van Peeble's character gets killed by the shark during the final scene. When the film went to VHS, however, the studio said that audiences had been too bummed out by that bit. They changed it so Van Peebles is seen limping out of the water with minor, survivable injuries.

What's most annoying about that one is that because Jaws: The Revenge was such a box office flop, they've never bothered with putting the original ending back. It isn't even an extra on the DVD. They figured "what the hell, no one cares about this crappy film anyway".

**USBPepsi** · March 15th, 2011, 04:22 AM

Lastly for now, in the great Burt Reynolds cop movie Sharky's Machine, there is a scene in which Sharky is tortured by the bad guys, who are trying to get information out of him. One of the henchmen cuts off the end of a couple of Sharky's fingers.

The scene made it to video, but in the original theatrical version there was a gruesome follow-up shot in which you see Reynolds sliding his hand back on the bloody table, while the ends of his fingers remain lying there. On both the VHS and the DVD versions, that shot is either edited out or reframed so you can't see the fingertips lying there.

**scoundrel** · March 15th, 2011, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by polartrade

Speaking of Jaws, when I saw the god-awful sequel Jaws: The Revenge in the theater, Mario Van Peeble's character gets killed by the shark during the final scene. When the film went to VHS, however, the studio said that audiences had been too bummed out by that bit. They changed it so Van Peebles is seen limping out of the water with minor, survivable injuries.

What's most annoying about that one is that because Jaws: The Revenge was such a box office flop, they've never bothered with putting the original ending back. It isn't even an extra on the DVD. They figured "what the hell, no one cares about this crappy film anyway".

But nobody does care about Jaws: The Revenge, do they?

That's such crap movie. The attempt at continuity with the original Jaws was so feeble it was quite laughable; the whole film had cash-rip-off stamped on it with a firebrand. Yep: the DVD of Jaws: The Revenge is evidently one last attempt to exploit and abuse a great movie. Hollywood will pass off unbelievably inferior product as being worth buying. That's something to think about whenever you are forced to sit through that anti-video-piracy crap at the start of your DVD because they've set it up so you can't scene select past that hypocritical rubbish and get straight to the movie you just paid for.

**Xexemedes** · March 15th, 2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by polartrade

Did you see the version with the "grape juice" line on broadcast TV? I ask because Family Guy is fairly complicated. They often have a full uncensored version for DVD, and then on Fox they will cut out some of the naughtier jokes... but ADD a couple of clean jokes to get the running time back up.

So you may have heard that extra couch joke because they wanted to fill in where they'd cut a raunchy gag.

The first time I saw "Blue Harvest" was on the 1st release of the DVD at a friends house. I have watched the movie twice on-line since (I own no television) and the the joke is not there.

And yes! It is nice not to be crazy

eek · March 15th, 2011, 11:12 AM

Maybe they're doing it to sell box sets with the uncut versions later? Just thinking out loud here...

**shodan2011** · March 15th, 2011, 11:25 AM

I am absolutely certain that Disclosure was messed about with for the video/DVD release.

I am certain there's a scene when Tom Sanders (Michael Douglas) hits Cindy Chang (Jacqueline Kim) on the arse with a folder, and Cindy looks rather unhappy when he does it. It's after Sanders has been accused of sexual harrassment. I'm convinced I saw it in the cinema version, but it's not in the VHS or DVD releases. If someone knows if it did exist, or whether I'm imagining it, I'd appreciate it if someone can put me out of my misery.

March 15th, 2011, 03:10 AM	#1
Xexemedes Vintage Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Posts: 472 Thanks: 31,031 Thanked 10,284 Times in 473 Posts	Rental Movies Missing Scenes You Remember from the Theater The GF and I recently rented "Falling Down" starring Michale Douglas and Robert Duvall. The film came out circa 1991. It is about a recently divorced man who encounters a series of "everyday" life problems one after the other and begins to go a bit off the deep end. There was a scene in the film that I remember in the theater where Douglas is in a fast food restaurant trying to order breakfast about three minutes after they stop serving breakfast. The waitress and the manager both tell him he has to order lunch (so far so good). In the theater version, Douglas points to a couple of left-over breakfast sandwiches still under the hot lights and asks for one of those-stating he will pay for it. They refuse to sell him one, even though they are just going to throw the food away, and he starts to lose it. The DVD had the fast food scene without the crucial moment of him seeing the food he wanted but being denied it anyway. By removing that one piece of dialog from the film Douglas goes from being a sympathetic character that we can all relate to, to a raving irrational maniac. WTH??? In Family Guy's first Star Wars parody "Blue Harvest" there was a great joke after the trash compactor scene where Han (Peter) finds a couch and he and Chewie (Brian) take the couch back to the Millennium Falcon. After flying away Darth (Stewie) and Tarkin (Adam West) are watching on the bridge and Darth informs Tarkin that not only did they get away but they had Tarkin's couch: "the one with the grape juice stain from movie night" (or very close to that) that line made me laugh so hard the first time I saw it. A recent viewing of the same cartoon was minus that one line!!!! Cutting a clean one liner from a cartoon DVD with many off color jokes seems a frivolous waste of editing to me. WTH??? Finally, everyone thinks I'm crazy on this one: but I swear the first time I saw Jaws there was a scene where Quint went to a music store to buy the piano wire he used as fishing line. A kid in the store was playing scales on some instrument (piano?) and Quint loudly joined him singing the scales. I bought the remastered DVD (the one where you can actually see the nude swimmer ) I watched all the extras on it and there was no music store scene. I admit I haven't searched on line for this-I might tonight. When I buy or rent a DVD I am hoping there are lots of extras-even the scenes that were "too boring" for the final edit. The making of Jaws is almost as fascinating as the movie itself and the story is almost as well known. So my question stands: has anyone else noticed different edits, or missing scenes, or incomplete dialogs they know were in the original films? What was the film? What are the scenes? Please tell me it is not just me. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Blessings young children: sleep peacefully and well. Let the grown-ups sleep not, but open their eyes.

March 15th, 2011, 04:18 AM	#5
USBPepsi Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,435 Thanks: 62,015 Thanked 27,437 Times in 2,401 Posts	Speaking of Jaws, when I saw the god-awful sequel Jaws: The Revenge in the theater, Mario Van Peeble's character gets killed by the shark during the final scene. When the film went to VHS, however, the studio said that audiences had been too bummed out by that bit. They changed it so Van Peebles is seen limping out of the water with minor, survivable injuries. What's most annoying about that one is that because Jaws: The Revenge was such a box office flop, they've never bothered with putting the original ending back. It isn't even an extra on the DVD. They figured "what the hell, no one cares about this crappy film anyway". __________________ The guy formerly known as that guy, now known as this guy.

March 15th, 2011, 04:22 AM	#6
USBPepsi Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,435 Thanks: 62,015 Thanked 27,437 Times in 2,401 Posts	Lastly for now, in the great Burt Reynolds cop movie Sharky's Machine, there is a scene in which Sharky is tortured by the bad guys, who are trying to get information out of him. One of the henchmen cuts off the end of a couple of Sharky's fingers. The scene made it to video, but in the original theatrical version there was a gruesome follow-up shot in which you see Reynolds sliding his hand back on the bloody table, while the ends of his fingers remain lying there. On both the VHS and the DVD versions, that shot is either edited out or reframed so you can't see the fingertips lying there. __________________ The guy formerly known as that guy, now known as this guy.

March 15th, 2011, 11:12 AM	#9
eek Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 568 Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 4,243 Times in 502 Posts	Maybe they're doing it to sell box sets with the uncut versions later? Just thinking out loud here... __________________ My ambition is handicapped by laziness.

March 15th, 2011, 03:22 AM	#2
Davros Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 Thanks: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts	You're not mad - it happens more than you think!! For example "The Wanderers" - great film! But some prints will show the body-builder father beating up his artistic son during the Ducky Boys fight, and some won't. If you don't see that scene, you'll wonder why he chooses to leave home. In "The Princess Bride" there's a scene where the Albino talks to Westley - he rasps and croaks, and then clears his throat, only to speak normally. Maybe they didn't want to pay Mel Smith royalties for a speaking part?

March 15th, 2011, 11:25 AM	#10
shodan2011 Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Wild, Wild West Midlands Posts: 1,262 Thanks: 13,615 Thanked 20,242 Times in 1,279 Posts	I am absolutely certain that Disclosure was messed about with for the video/DVD release. I am certain there's a scene when Tom Sanders (Michael Douglas) hits Cindy Chang (Jacqueline Kim) on the arse with a folder, and Cindy looks rather unhappy when he does it. It's after Sanders has been accused of sexual harrassment. I'm convinced I saw it in the cinema version, but it's not in the VHS or DVD releases. If someone knows if it did exist, or whether I'm imagining it, I'd appreciate it if someone can put me out of my misery.