Former President Trump News/Discussion....

[foxbat1]

Originally Posted by flake56

They really are not kidding, according to MAGAs "real men" have no bowel control.

but real men who have this problem or impairment learn to eat and evacuate their bowels in a program taught to any and all disabled ie wheelchair bound etc folk as part of their new world. takes control and extreme effort. trump has neither. diapers yes, but loosing their shite, virtually never. he just cannot be bothered to learn.

It could be him being a arse, literally. Chemical warfare against the court and his detractors. Probably doesn't endear the jury to him though.

[DTravel]

Originally Posted by foxbat1

It could be him being a arse, literally. Chemical warfare against the court and his detractors. Probably doesn't endear the jury to him though.

He's been seen in Estreeter's company a lot....

[Baxter49]

Live Updates Trump Trial:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-24/index.html

Olberman claimed Trump will back out of the debates, and use the excuse Biden won't do a debate he invented out of thin air on Fox without Biden's approval, and cited his issues with Brett Baier. In other words it's say one thing on Monday, opposite on Tuesday. No memory.

[Baxter49]

So far Todd Blanche trying to hammer Cohen he's taking responsibility for everything and ducking nothing, not landing or getting him off his game, and a lot of jumping around. Blanche has to land something or break Cohen.

Trump's attorneys will ask NY's highest court to weigh in on gag order

Donald Trump's attorneys have filed court documents indicating they will ask New York's highest court to weigh in on the gag order against him in his hush money trial.

On Tuesday, a New York appeals court denied Trump’s latest attempt to end the gag order. The next day, Trump's attorneys submitted court filings indicating they will appeal the denied motion to the state's highest court, the Court of Appeals. Those filings are not available on the docket.

The Court of Appeals does not have to accept the motion. As of Thursday morning, the clerk's office said it had not yet received the motion.

We have an all-star lineup of Boebert, Gaetz, Ogles, Luna, Biggs, Good and Crane at the courthouse today. Gaetz tweeted stand back and stand by. Pathetic.
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Blanche around 12:30 finally started asking Cohen about Hush Money payments....lunch.

[Baxter49]

Todd Blanche just may have caught Cohen in a lie or he forgot. Blanche is rightfully playing it up as a Perry Mason moment.

Hush money payment: The defense asked Cohen about the logistics of the hush money payment at the center of the case. Here are some key points in the exchange between Cohen and the defense:

Cohen had testified that he told Trump in a 2016 call that the Stormy Daniels hush money payment was funded, and the issue was resolved.

Cohen said he was receiving multiple harassing phone calls from a 14-year-old around the same time he testified before the grand jury.

The defense showed call logs and text messages to show Cohen was asking Trump’s former bodyguard Keith Schiller for help with harassment he was experiencing, as opposed to talking about the Stormy Daniels deal he testified about.
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Haberman, Katy Tur (who's pro Trump now on Msnbc thanks to her ties with Kelly Anne Conway) and Chris Cuomo are on on Cohen's recorded call menu as go to people in 2016. Tur is live on Msnbc seeing this live. Rough days with Andrea Mitchell, Tur doing live analysis.
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This is supposed to end at 4pm, no Friday. 13 hours Cohen is reportedly tired. Thursday there is an issue next week with juror, same for Wednesday and holiday coming.

Blanche is back to his peripheral questions, but that's it for the week.
Judge stops proceedings for the day as Trump's attorney was moving to different topic in questions

Judge Juan Merchan is stopping proceedings for the day.

Trump's attorney Todd Blanche was ready to move onto a different area in his cross-examination of Michael Cohen.

Trump is looking at a sheet of paper with the word "Quotes" in caps at the top

Donald Trump is looking at a white sheet of paper with the word "QUOTES" in all caps at the top.
Defense expects to wrap up cross-examination on Monday

Defense attorney Todd Blanche said he expects to finish cross of Michael Cohen before the morning break on Monday.

Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger said she will have under an hour of redirect.

Judge Juan Merchan said he will look into starting early some days, and added that he thinks they could definitely stay late.

Blanche says there's no decision on whether Trump will testify.
Blanche says defense could still call a rebuttal witness

Trump attorney Todd Blanche said the defense could still call a rebuttal witnesses, but if they do, they won't be long.
The cross-examination is not over.

Judge says parties should be prepared to deliver summations Tuesday if testimony wraps up Monday

Judge Juan Merchan says parties should be prepared to give summations on Tuesday "if we do wrap up on Monday."
Monday 9:30
Aloha

[Baxter49]

https://www.aol.com/news/york-times-...003238538.html
New York Times: Upside-down US flag flew at home of Justice Samuel Alito after 2020 election

An upside-down American flag – a symbol used by some supporters of former President Donald Trump who challenged the legitimacy of Joe Biden’s 2020 victory – hung outside the home of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito after the election, The New York Times reported Thursday.

The revelation is almost certain to prompt calls for Alito, a member of the court’s conservative wing, to recuse himself from several high-profile cases pending before the court this year involving the election and subsequent attack on the US Capitol, including the blockbuster question of whether Trump may claim immunity from federal election subversion charges.

The Times published a photo of the inverted flag, which it said was seen at the justice’s home in Alexandria, Virginia, on January 17, 2021.

A spokeswoman for the Supreme Court did not immediately respond to a request for comment from CNN, which has not independently verified the flag’s use.

“I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag,” Alito said in an emailed statement to the Times. “It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.”

The upside-down flag became a symbol of the “Stop the Steal” movement in the weeks and months following the election, in which Trump’s supporters falsely claimed that Biden’s win was illegitimate due to widespread fraud. The inverted flag was widely seen during the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

The Times said it was not clear how long the flag flew outside of Alito’s home.

[Rogerbh]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jack-smit...162732587.html

Jack Smith Basically Has One Option to Save the Classified Documents Case

Writ of Mandamus, please.

[DTravel]

The Trump hush money trial is thrusting reporters into an uncomfortable spotlight
CNN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cb8fd58c&ei=39

The Donald Trump hush money trial is dragging reporters into uncomfortable territory and laying bare the complicated relationships journalists often have with sources.

Michael Cohen, who continued to testify Thursday, invoked from the stand the names of several high-profile media figures, putting their relationships with the former Trump fixer in the spotlight.

Cohen named The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and MSNBC’s Katy Tur as reporters which he had established relationships with. He alleged without evidence that ABC News’ John Santucci had tried to pay for the rights to Stormy Daniels’ story. And he spoke about having recorded dozens of phone calls with media figures, including former CNN boss Jeff Zucker.

To be clear, a reporter having working relationships with sources is not unethical — it’s often a hallmark of being a strong journalist and it does not translate into taking orders or publishing unvetted information. Reputable news outlets like ABC News do not pay for interviews, but trying to secure a sit-down with a high-profile subject is anything but uncommon. And speaking on the phone with a source while the person on the other end of the line secretly records says a lot more about that individual than the journalist.

For now, much of what has been described by Cohen in court appears to be routine, run-of-the-mill behavior that occurs each and every day in journalism. But the general public does not work in a newsroom, and regular interactions with sources can be framed in such a way that removes key context and portrays a routine reporting process as nefarious.

That context is crucial. For example, Haberman has indisputably been one of the most authoritative reporters on Trump. For years, her byline has dogged the Queens-born developer-turned-politician, exposing corruption, revealing embarrassing secrets, and shedding light on his authoritarian impulses. In return, Trump has ranted and raged at her endlessly. The notion that Haberman is a commissioned stenographer for Trump is preposterous.

But for Haberman — or any reporter — to get information from Trump-world requires cultivating thorny relationships with sources, many of whom are slimy figures. It is neither unusual nor unethical for journalists to be cordial to the sources whom they get information from. That does not mean they print whatever these sources send them or function as their mouthpieces. It simply means that they have established a relationship that is conducive to the flow and exchange of information. And when the journalist deems that information to be newsworthy, they might then be able to publish it for the world to see.

It’s also worth noting that many of the top journalists covering Trump world have complex histories with the key figures in the case. A witness like Cohen or an attorney like Todd Blanche might be motivated to cast various journalists in unflattering light.

In many ways, the Trump hush money trial has become something of a Rorschach test. People see what they want to see, ignoring evidence before their eyes that runs counter to their chosen narrative. And for the faction of the public that believes some members of the press are too cozy with Trump world, seeing Cohen discuss his relationships with the news media has only reinforced their views.

That reporters are playing a starring role in the trial is also a function of the Trump years. The former president, seeking to use the news media as a foil, cast the journalists covering him as characters in his unrelenting show. Through vile attacks, he moved the reporters from behind the scenes onto the front lines. And so now, amid his criminal trial, it is fitting that members of the press are once again finding themselves in the awkward position of being part of the very story they are covering.

*holds up a big ink blot and waits for the comments*

[SexObjex]

And here we are. The real reason for this case. It's for the media to navel-gaze and comment on itself.

[Baxter49]

Originally Posted by DTravel

The Trump hush money trial is thrusting reporters into an uncomfortable spotlight
CNN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cb8fd58c&ei=39

*holds up a big ink blot and waits for the comments*

What can be written? The media needs to sell clicks and page views for their profits. Trump's people took the major media out to dinner last year, and they went and kissed the ring with softball interviews as we saw with Welker. As Olberman said they already had the meetings to protect their profits in a second Trump term, and they sure have no issue not selling Biden who does not put money on their tables, and pushed that too old narrative vs a man three years younger who's memory, lies and gaffe's are endless. Many of them yesterday were selling hard Trump's lawyer making a breakthrough on Cohen, and Blanche's theatrics, and they worked a lot harder selling Trump's congress show up and support him vs the person who burned himself outside the trial.

Was fun seeing Katy Tur vapor lock on live television as she was id'd by Cohen as a Trump-friendly reporter. Haberman hides in the courtroom but she is a Trump-friendly reporter when we don't need legacy media picking sides which hurts the real media and elevates Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and the fringe bloggers and pod caster playing media who picked their side and need subscribers with their Patreon bucks.