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Old June 20th, 2018, 08:02 PM   #1671
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US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order promising to "keep families together" amid fury over separation of migrant families.
Ivanka got his attention. That and Melania nagging him.

We have all done something really stupid that required the women in our lives to point out that we were f*cking up.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0f0b9e9a6c7a1

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/62193...aration-policy

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...lies/23464060/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...ion/index.html

The longer it goes on, the worse the November payback.
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Old June 21st, 2018, 04:26 AM   #1672
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The truth is, Neil Gorsuch being on the SCOTUS is much more the work of Mitch McConnell and crew rather than Trump, for it was them that held up the nomination of Merrick Garland.
No, I think you can blame Neil Gorsuch being on the SCOTUS on Joe Biden. His totally unnecessary monologue in June of 1992 is what opened the door for McConnell and crew to hold up the nomination. I really do not see how they would have gotten away with that otherwise. They might have tried but it would have been much more difficult and politically damaging in an election year. If they had tried and succeeded and the Dems spun it properly it might have been enough to push HRC over the top. Did you notice how Obama and the WH rolled over and played dead without a peep? They had no choice. Their sitting veep was responsible. By rights, I feel that should have been Obama's vacancy to fill. It's astonishing that a relatively benign speech twenty five years ago can come back to haunt you.

I'm also pretty confident that had the justices foreseen a Trump victory in 2016 that we might have seen a few retirements in 2014-2015. Anthony Kennedy has been rumored to have been considering it lately and Ruth Bader Ginsberg is not in very good health.
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Old June 21st, 2018, 05:25 AM   #1673
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Ivanka got his attention. That and Melania nagging him.

We have all done something really stupid that required the women in our lives to point out that we were f*cking up.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0f0b9e9a6c7a1

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/62193...aration-policy

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...lies/23464060/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/polit...ion/index.html

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Old June 21st, 2018, 01:42 PM   #1674
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I fail to understand the reasoning that having justices like Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alioto, and John Roberts, who keep finding things in the Constitution that do not appear in black and white, is any better than having a majority liberal justices doing the same thing in other directions. How about we find judges who rely on the text and two centuries plus of jurisprudence?
There is very little of the Constitution that is truly black and white. I believe part of that was intentional while some of it is just a product of dealing with a document written 250 years ago. Even the parts that are black and white are spun in the same fashion as the vague sections. If it were so black and white we really would not need a SCOTUS or at least we would already know their rulings before they are delivered.

We have a representative government. We elect people to positions who support and believe in the things we believe in and feel are important. They make appointments based on those same beliefs (in theory, anyway). When was the last time your utopian model for the SCOTUS actually existed - if ever? Every judge has a track record. Where are do you find these totally impartial judges that read things right down the line that you allude to? There was likely the same partisan bickering taking place as the Constitution was being drafted and refined.
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US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order promising to "keep families together" amid fury over separation of migrant families.

He said he had been swayed by pictures of children who have been taken from parents while they are jailed and prosecuted for illegal border-crossing.

The Republican president had earlier urged lawmakers to pass a bill ending family separations.

He also wants immigration laws to be toughened under any such legislation.

"It's about keeping families together," Mr Trump said at the signing ceremony on Wednesday.

"I did not like the sight of families being separated," he said, but added the administration would continue its "zero tolerance policy".

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44552852
In other words Trump just did what he and his apologists have insisted for the last few weeks that he had no power to do.
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Ivanka got his attention. That and Melania nagging him.

We have all done something really stupid that required the women in our lives to point out that we were f*cking up.
Though most of us also have a conscience that points that out.

I suppose even psychopaths get fed up with others nagging them.
He couldn't get away with just totally denying it and calling it 'fake news' on this occasion.
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He won't be framing this one..
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He won't be framing this one..

I wonder if anyone (sjw, liberal, pc, republican or trump himself) will ever point out that the pic is a fake?
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I wonder if anyone (sjw, liberal, pc, republican or trump himself) will ever point out that the pic is a fake?
Indeed, but that's missing the point.
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