Things Noticeable this week

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

What if the blank votes are majority?

I posted about that very same question in another, interesting thread

Originally Posted by Estreeter

Makes them stupid for wasting their vote then and makes any comments later complaining about a Government non valid and if they didn't like any particular candidates then there is no reason they cannot run as an independent , and here sometimes it's the independents that actually hold power when the amount of seats held by the Government and Opposition is small, like the case in my country right now, there's a majority of only 1 seat.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

I posted about that very same question in another, interesting thread

They are not stupid. They maybe think that all the comedies made by politicians are bullshits.
They also maybe think that the notion of nation is the worst crap ever.
Probably voters are more stupid than "blankers".

BTW... I'm a voter.
Aren't we both sheeps?

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

They are not stupid. They maybe think that all the comedies made by politicians are bullshits.

What's bullshit is that millions have died in wars fought to gain a right to vote, there's still places on the planet where people would love to have a fair vote ...... but in todays fucked up, soft, politically correct, easier than ever to live world there are people who snub that right and then have the actual nerve to complain True, many politicians are inept, but if one cares enough, you'll find a candidate most suitable for you though without doubt far from perfect.

I don't call then abstainers, that's a nice way of putting it ....I'll put it in it's simplest terms and what they actually are ........ lazy, careless, irresponsible, selfish and brain dead

[Mal Hombre]

Many Democratic voters abstained in the last Presidential Election,Look where that got them..

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

What's bullshit is that millions have died in wars fought to gain a right to vote, there's still places on the planet where people would love to have a fair vote ...... but in todays fucked up, soft, politically correct, easier than ever to live world there are people who snub that right and then have the actual nerve to complain True, many politicians are inept, but if one cares enough, you'll find a candidate most suitable for you though without doubt far from perfect.

I don't call then abstainers, that's a nice way of putting it ....I'll put it in it's simplest terms and what they actually are ........ lazy, careless, selfish and brain dead

In a democracy, the people who have lost, are under a form of dictatorship.
Ask the British miners how they liked to be runned by a witch called Thatcher, who sent the police to dictate her arbitrary view of life.

Vive l'Anarchie!

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Many Democratic voters abstained in the last Presidential Election,Look where that got them..

But why do they abstain ?
Don't they abstain because they do not recognise themselves in any kind of models of society that are proposed to them.

[rupertramjet]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

In a democracy, the people who have lost, are under a form of dictatorship.
Ask the British miners how they liked to be runned by a witch called Thatcher, who sent the police to dictate her arbitrary view of life.

Vive l'Anarchie!



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I do find that a bit offensive, there were a lot more issues involved in the miners strike, if you actually had spent anytime in Yorkshire, one of the most affected areas during both the strike and its aftermath, you would find that it is a very close run thing between dislike of Margaret Thatcher and Arthur Scargill, the miners union leader.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

In a democracy, the people who have lost, are under a form of dictatorship.

Wake up, stop dreaming of a fantasy ....... ain't bothering anymore Mate.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

I do find that a bit offensive, there were a lot more issues involved in the miners strike, if you actually had spent anytime in Yorkshire, one of the most affected areas during both the strike and its aftermath, you would find that it is a very close run thing between dislike of Margaret Thatcher and Arthur Scargill, the miners union leader.

About 15 years ago, I had to spend for my job one week in a small city near Birmingham.
I spent several days with a 35 years old man, who worked as freelance programmer. A very nice person.
He was living in a "poor" area.
He told to me that Thatcher destroyed the quality of life of a lot of people of the British working class.
I remember that looking "teddy bear" guy get his eyes filled with hatred when speaking about this woman.

[rupertramjet]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

About 15 years ago, I had to spend for my job one week in a small city near Birmingham.
I spent several days with a 35 years old man, who worked as freelance programmer. A very nice person.
He was living in a "poor" area.
He told to me that Thatcher destroyed the quality of life of a lot of people of the British working class.
I remember that looking "teddy bear" guy get his eyes filled with hatred when speaking about this woman.

You would meet a lot of people with exactly the opposite view! I am not a Thatcherite, but she inherited a country with massive inflation, out of control trade unions, who were perceived by many as blatantly far left, and opposed to any changes or modernisation of work practice.

There were also left wing councils, introducing ridiculous policies and appointing friends to £35 thousand a year part time jobs in the 1970s. The average wage being about 10k at the time!

Neil Kinnock, the Labour leader at the time made this speech, it is why Labour were unelectable!

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by rupertramjet

You would meet a lot of people with exactly the opposite view! I am not a Thatcherite, but she inherited a country with massive inflation, out of control trade unions, who were perceived by many as blatantly far left,

Correct me Rupert (wish there was a Murdoch after that ), didn't that Scargill .... person have the union he ran pay for a luxury flat in London

If so ... Yep , he cared for the common worker