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Old April 14th, 2018, 04:24 PM   #33101
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THE worst of the lot CATACLYSM but you will notice it isn't spelt with ISM...odd that!
But did you know that people who believe there will be a cataclysm are called
'Cataclysmists' and what they believe is called 'Cataclysmism'?


We've been told that "We" have bombed several Chemical weapons facilities in Syria as punishment of for Assad'a use of Chemical weapons.

But what I'd like to know is:

1) For how long have We known about these facilities and why have We not told anyone about them until now?

2) If We have known about them for a while, why were We not watching them closely in case weapons were moved from them to helicopters/planes prior to use?

3) If We have known about these facilities for a while, why is the only 'evidence' We have, is of that given by 'open sources' who allege a barrel bomb was dropped, and other 'open sources' who allege that a helicopter was seen over head at some point, and Theresa May says that as the opposition don't have helicopters then it must be Assad who dun it?
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Old April 14th, 2018, 04:35 PM   #33102
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Evidence?
Bit late for that.
If the need for actual evidence was required then they wouldn't have been firing those multi million pound apiece missiles in the first place.
You`d think.
Or I`d like to.
If wasn't a realist.
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Old April 14th, 2018, 04:53 PM   #33103
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Even though the "attack" can be laughed off, the US, UK and France went on to trample on international law and launch an illegal attack against a sovereign nation again. I think it's safe to say that the US and British governments are the biggest liars and criminals in the world at this moment.
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Even though the "attack" can be laughed off, the US, UK and France went on to trample on international law and launch an illegal attack against a sovereign nation again. I think it's safe to say that the US and British governments are the biggest liars and criminals in the world at this moment.
Nevertheless, the US, Brits and French have managed to destroy a handfull of facilities that manufacture industrial chemicals for treating Syria's water supplies or warehouses that store bottles of stuff like Brobat. Good value for a billion dollars I'd say.

On a more positive note, Saint Theresa has promised to ensure that Chemical Weapons or WMDs are not used on British streets. So the RAF will be conducting airstrikes on housing estates in Hackney, Enfield and a few other location where renegade teenagers store their supplies of acid that can be rapidly deployed using a stolen scooter across most parts of the capital.
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Even though the "attack" can be laughed off, the US, UK and France went on to trample on international law and launch an illegal attack against a sovereign nation again. I think it's safe to say that the US and British governments are the biggest liars and criminals in the world at this moment.
I've always felt that "international law" is an oxymoron, made up by lawyers who swoop down like vultures to make a buck and puff up their virtue-signaling egos after the issues were decided the way they always are...by force.
It is true, however, that those who control western forces do not support the interests of the people who pay for those forces.
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Evidence?
Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

Your Honor, I rest my case!
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Old April 14th, 2018, 05:29 PM   #33107
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Even though the "attack" can be laughed off, the US, UK and France went on to trample on international law and launch an illegal attack against a sovereign nation again. I think it's safe to say that the US and British governments are the biggest liars and criminals in the world at this moment.
Syrian leader loves to play with chemical toys, bombarding civilians , children, hospital and so on.
Well deserved.
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Apparently, you can kill your citizens with firearms, knives, bombs, explosives, etc. without any problems but if you use chemical weapons - in your own country or by putting it on doorknobs in other countries. you upset some in the West.
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Old April 14th, 2018, 06:35 PM   #33109
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In 2013 President Obama wanted to initiate a military campaign against the Assad regime over its use of banned chemical weapons against its own people. He didn't gain any support from America's allies, and Mr Putin headed him off at the pass by brokering an agreement under which the Assad regime would dismantle its chemical weapons capability. We are seeing now how Mr Putin did not keep his word and was openly sneering and contemptuous in 2017 when tasked with the renewed use of banned chemical weapons by the Assad regime. We have since seen that Russia has retained and used banned chemical weapons directly, herself, on British soil.

This is the context in which the USA, France and Britain have taken action. There is no point in talking to such people as President Assad or President Putin. Force is the only language they understand.
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This is the context in which the USA, France and Britain have taken action. There is no point in talking to such people as President Assad or President Putin. Force is the only language they understand.
But that's war between Presidents, regimes and in the middle civilians suffer and militaries exposed their life.

Yesterday night I've listened to the interview of the ex-Lieutenant colonel "Guillaume Ancel". Link here Guillaume Ancel, Lieutenant Colonel / Force d'action rapide

He had to fight during the siege of Sarajevo and he also was in Rwanda.
He explained how French politicians did not respect the laws. (They protected the Serbian Army and the Rwandan war criminals and even armed them in the last case (minute 34 of the video)
Today this ex-Lieutenant is threatened with death to reveal these infamous "state secrets".

He also explained that he had to protect Rwandan war criminals, because the French state told him to protect them. But he knew they were monsters.

WTF. Do you see the games that are played by politicians in their luxurious cabinets?
I don't know how we can serve these kind of assholes, playing with life of people like if they were pawns of a chessgame.
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