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Depends on what you call recent and you cannot class all leaders the same, Chamberlain did not want a war between Britain and Germany in 1936, WWI was still fresh in people's minds and his intentions were good, however he and many others totally misjudged the extent of Nazi ambition and aggression. Possibly if there was a vote then the UK may have been against a war in 1936 however they would have expected the world powers to rein in the Nazi war machine, by 1939 it was way too late, the genie was out of the bottle and a major war was inevitable. The Falklands war was an act of aggression on British territory against British civilians, the Argentinians were run by a thuggish dictator and the British people were in favour of intervention. The people will never have the full facts and yes we know in the case of WMD our leaders will use fabricated evidence but any referendum would be based on information provided by our leaders. Quote:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq/ http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/22/us...ism-fades.html Wars have been part of human life since the beginning, if you believe in the Bible (which I don't, but it serves as a good example) then Cain slew Abel very early on so the seed for evil is in us all and the first Biblical war occurs as early as Genesis chapter 14. The first actual war in recorded history took place in Mesopotamia in 2700 BCE between Sumer and Elam although prehistoric cave paintings clearly show humans attacking each other with spears and arrows, that was way before satin sheets were even created, although the leaders probably lay on the better animal hides.
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World Savety Conference in Muich
Ozedemir under Police Protction
Turkish security forces have complained in Munich that the Green Party politician Özdemir (a Member of the German Parliament !!!) is a "terrorist" in their hotel. The police put three officials to the side of the Erdogan critic. A normal visit to the Munich Security Conference is currently impossible for Green Party politician Cem Özdemir. The reason: the Turkish delegation resides in his hotel. After a complaint to the police about the Erdogan critic, the Bavarian officials were forced to act and put Özdemir under police protection. This was confirmed by the Police Headquarters Munich of the "Welt". As the newspaper further reports, Özdemir accompany three officers during the security conference - on dates he is brought in a police vehicle. The police did not want to comment on the background and scope of the protection measure. Complaint about "terrorist" Özdemir Ozdemir told the WAMS that he happened to meet the delegation headed by Prime Minister Binali Yildirim on Friday in the hotel lobby. "From her expression, I could see that they were not pleased to see me," he said. The grim looks should have followed a complaint of the Turks. About the fact that there is a "terrorist" in their hotel. This was Özdemir meant. Ozdemir said the incident confirmed his assessment of "the nature of the regime in Ankara". One gets "an impression, which aggressiveness emanates from this uncertainty personnel probably in Turkey, if they behave themselves already with us in such a way." It was "bad enough that Erdogan's henchmen spread fear and terror among dissidents," added Ozdemir. "But in Germany it has lost nothing." In the past, Özdemir had repeatedly sharply criticized President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, stressing that there could be no EU membership with Turkey. Incident with bodyguards in the US Turkish security guards were down on a visit to Washington last year. At that time, several of Erdogan's bodyguards had beaten peaceful Kurdish protesters. Eleven people were injured in the attacks, nine of them had to be treated in hospital. Source: ARD- news : http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/oezd...chutz-101.html (in German, auto. translated) ---------------------------------------------------------------- I can't comment this news report in a way, VEF could accept it. - Sorry !
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But the fact is that neither the German, nor the French, nor the English have been able to vote democratically to tell if they wanted to go on war or not. I'm not that sure that Adolf Hitler would have get the majority of the mothers, fathers and grand-parents, wives or partners to send their sons, boyfriends or husbands dying on battlefield. German soldiers who were in Verdun during WWI knew and said how horrible was war. They would not have made a nice publicity. My grandmother who spoke to me about German occupation in Paris, said to me that German soldiers were not happy to be in France. They wanted to be at home with their families. A lot of German soldiers were not crazy Nazis. When German soldiers had to move from Paris to the Russian battlefield, they were unhappy and depressed. Quote:
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That's public opinions, retranscripted by "newspapers and surveys" (today we know what means "surveys" ) but when it's time to send friends and family on battlefield because of our votes, it's another story. Even more if just before to vote, the peaceful people would demonstrate that we can find a solution through negociations and that wars will cause tears and blood. Quote:
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Censorship by those who know what's best for other people . Guardian readers . Still the daily mail got it's own back by exposing a saint in the making for what he really is . How ironic that other lefty luvvie darlings are all wearing black to stand up to sex pests at the baftas . And there was one of them within their ranks . I had to chortle . All hail the daily mail ! Last edited by chris chunt; February 18th, 2018 at 09:12 PM.. |
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One thing I've noticed is that I still can't shift this blasted cough/sore throat that I've had for two weeks since the main cold went, but I have taken steps to get rid of it by an old standby-Buttercup Syrup medicine and that appears to be working. this has been the worst Wimter ever(so far) for colds and flu in this country even though many of us got jabs back in October.
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Today across America it is a national holiday: President's day which celebrates the birthday of George Washington and Abraham Lincloln, except for one thing.
When I was much younger there were two holidays. Lincoln's birthday is actually on February 12 and George Washington's actual birthday is February 22 and schools were closed, there was no mail, and all government offices were closed. Then those dingbats in the U.S. congress did away with that in 1971. They wanted a national holiday to fall on a Monday so people would have a three day weekend, so now only a few of the U.S. states celebrate Lincoln's birthday as a state holiday, and the rest of the country celebrate both on the third Monday of February. |
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I thought your retired every day is a holiday in that case
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That's true. As a retired person every day is almost the same, except that the weekends are usually a little quieter because schools are closed, and most government offices are closed and many of the smaller stores have limited hours and some are closed on Sundays. Actually most children here in the U.S don't get that much out of the state and national holidays. They just use those days to catch up on school homework. Only during the holiday season do children get more out of the holidays because these holidays (Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years) days are filled with family celebrations and gatherings.
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