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Old September 24th, 2017, 08:19 PM   #31051
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The right wing nationalist AFD can thank her a certain extend for their success coming new into the parliament - ...and I think everybody knows why - I mustn't explain .
Is it because you can't say NAZI ?

We won the war and can say it, although dressing up like one, is generally frowned on
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Is it because you can't say NAZI ?

We won the war and can say it, although dressing up like one, is generally frowned on
No, you're completely in case of the reason.

Many members of the AFD are surely Neo-Nazi (most of the former Nazi are dead now) , but most of their voters aren't Neo-Nazi or their sympathisers.
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No, you're completely in case of the reason.
I hate it when that happens
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Many members of the AFD are surely Neo-Nazi (most of the former Nazi are dead now) , but most of their voters aren't Neo-Nazi or their sympathisers.
Most of the NSDAP voters weren't Nazis either and might have decided differently if they had foreseen the outcome. That did not make their choice any better.
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Yeah impressive, best since 1933.
Yeah. Times are changing. Even in Germany.
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Most of the NSDAP voters weren't Nazis either and might have decided differently if they had foreseen the outcome. That did not make their choice any better.
You are so quite right with your analyses.

Both group of voters were frustrated:
The first of the lost WWI and the reparations, and giving Germany the only fault of the WWI. (so in short words !)

The second group of the single decision of that silly cow Angela Merkel in summer 2015, to let 1.5 million migrants in the country. I tell you: Grande Casino here.
Only the organised immigration criminals were letting pop the bottles.

Both had consequences for the social systems and the inner peace.
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Prognosis of the German Vote of the parliament in 2017; 00:08

CDU/CSU (Angela Merkel): 32,9 %
SPD (Martin Schulz): 20,5 %
FDP : 10,7 %
AFD : 12,9 %
The Left: 9,2 %
The Green : 8,9 %
others : 4,9 %

CDU = Christian Democratic Union (Conservatives, exclusively Bavaria)
CSU = Christian Social Union (Conservatives, only in Bavaria)
SPD = Social Democratic Party (like the (New-) Labour in England)
FDP = Liberal Democratic Party
AFD = Alternative for Germany (it's a right wing nationalist party)
The Left = Left wing democratic party
The Green = Ecological Party


German parliament voting system; (who are interested in)

The blocking minority is below 5%. The parties below 5% are not represented in the parliament.
One can't vote the chancellor candidate directly! That's the due of the winning party/coalition.

Every voter is having two votes:

First voice is for the direct candidate (similar to the English system) regional. The winner-candidate is directly in the parliament.

Second voice is for the percentage, the party is represented in the parliament. The parties have lists of possible candidates for the parliament, even when they are not voted directly. The lists are appending of the German countries..

If a party is able to get more direct voices above their percentage of the seats in the parliament: than we are having "overhang seats" - which means in consequence the parliament is growing of this number of seats.

For our US friends:
Conservatives are not common with the majority of the Republicans I know. They (CDU/CSU) are more liberal in their majority.
A typical Social Democrat would be would be for example Bernie Sanders here, Obama or Hillary Clinton I would put in the FDP or CDU here.
Of course that matches the named Persons not fully -> all informations are subject to change.

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Resume: It looks like 4 more years with Angela Merkel
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Okto - you can be a right twat at times. You know what I mean't.
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The second group of the single decision of that silly cow Angela Merkel in summer 2015, to let 1.5 million migrants in the country.
Anyone who objects to their country being flooded with a million aliens must surely be a Nazi?
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Anyone who objects to their country being flooded with a million aliens must surely be a Nazi?
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