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July 30th, 2014, 07:11 AM | #231 | |
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Lessons from the Cold War? Who invaded Russia? Don't you remember the Red Army crossing the Ussuri River? Good luck with your superpower neighbour in the future. I'm sure your friends will support you. |
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China's economy is going to burst soon. It'll be a repeat of Japan's bubble burst back in 1991 except when China's goes south it'll effect the world. So anyone thinking China is this monolith which will own the future is just wrong. I remember the same kind of attitudes toward Japan back in the mid 80s.
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It will be interesting to see how Sino-Russian ties progress over time. The good new for Russia is that she'll have a steady customer for her energy resources and mineral wealth and timber even if Russia takes to sacrificing chickens to Satan by the light of black candles. The bad news is that China will not pay a right lot compared with either the USA or any of the EU countries. Also, China has vast mineral resources of her own, particularly coal; Russia would like to be able to export coal, especially if she ends up annexing eastern Ukraine, but she won't find much demand in China. America would be a good bet; the authorities in some places in the USA, such as Texas, really don't mind ruining their environment for the next ten thousand generations in exchange for a bit of profit. But that always assumes that Russia and the USA can get past this little local difficulty.
In the longer term, that will inevitably happen. Since when did principles ever get in the way of advantage? Most politicians think that Principles is the heir to the throne of Luxembourg. I read in the paper today that Frau Merkel was discreetly promoting a peace deal before the destruction of MH17 made things too toxic, in which everyone, including Ukraine and including Britain, was supposed to say "Hey, the Russian annexation of Crimea is legal under international law, why worry?" In return, Russia would "allow" Ukraine to ratify associate status with the EU...pardon me, but who is Russia that she is even allowed to have an opinion on that? Last time I checked, Ukraine was an independent country and allowed to negotiate any trade deals she jolly well wants. Whether its clever of Ukraine to upset her most powerful and important neighbour, the one who sells her the gas to keep her citizens warm in winter is a matter for Russia and Ukraine to discuss as between civilised countries, and Ukraine might find life a bit awkward if Russia charges the full market price for the gas and insists of payment in advance. But to forment rebellion on Ukraine's soil is really asking for trouble, and Russia has now started to see her chickens coming home to roost.
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The Goryuns, an ethnic Russian group, have lived in Northern Ukraine (Putyvl) before it was part of the Ukraine. The Slobozhanshchina region was originally Tartar, and then Russia before the Ukraine existed, as was Crimea, where even most of the ethnic Ukrainians voted to leave the Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. Also, the areas that join Russia will probably end up better off than any of the groups left in a country dominated by Fascist and Neo-Nazi parties like Svoboda. A closer parallel would be the Irish wanting to break away from the UK, which they did.
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Ordinary Ukranians have my support too, but not the fascists who target civilians. This has always been a difficult area, and it is better if outsiders stay outside, where they belong
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I'll say say it up-front.
I have No Respect for Putin, nor his fellow Oligarchs who have feasted on the USSR's decaying corpse. They bought for cents--- the Nationalised Industries and asset-stripped them almost overnight and became Billionaires. Many fled, many were chased..very few of the "early westerners"..if any... remain domiciled in the "reduced USSR" The USA is a prime example of such "robber-Barons" -- wealth?.. No restrictions?..No comebacks?..No laws?...No support for the weakest! LAW actually supported wealth in the USA and probably still does ...Just likea 'reduced Russia' Look at the Institutions that bear their family names today, and look at how they aquired instant WEALTH ? But the Oligarchs of Putin's era - the money-grabbers and runners, came from a longer history..... mainly the UK, --where it took a bit longer admittedly, but we didn't have Twatter then So I'm not an apologist for Putin, when I propose that the Ukraine is Political AND EMOTIONAL. In the Second World War it was estimated that 20 million USSR civilians and military were killed. It is estimated because the CIA through "Reader's Digest" and various other NGO sources combatted the early UN research which supported that size of death. Anyway...Germany took over the Ukraine in WW2 They created a State that felt liberated. The Ukraine provided the best frontline forces against the USSR created the feared "Death Squads"..the originals...that infiltrated villages and towns to kill and assasinate any or all pro-Soviet officials. Quote:
Ukraine nationalists rally to commemorate Nazi SS division http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-...i-ss-division/ ITV It is History AND EMOTIONAL to elements in the Russian Heirarchy --imo A substantial proportion of the 20 million dead were caused by their nearest neighbour and betrayer - the Ukraine. That Relationship of possible distrust has a History and It Is EMOTIONAL....imo I don't think for one moment it is about geographical access, to over-run Europe, as certain western media propose - I think this is the old USSR sayings:- Here and No Further. A Shield, not a Spear. Russia is...imo...just being messed up by amateur PR, {who are no match for CNN / BBC}..when they repeat committee formulated statements, 24 hours later. And meanwhile. the blokes with guns carry on shooting because they are culturally Russian and may actually not have heard about this guy Putin ! Think about the Oziak village (USA), that thought Lincoln was the President in late 1960s I hope Putin goes,I really do. But, hoping this isn't patronising, , a country new to democracy will follow a Fuerher-type figure. A Re-Builder. If the US and EU destroy Putin and his Heirarchy, what are the choices? A guy who really does want to re-capture all the 'lost' USSR lands - starting in the Ukraine? Putin doesn't want that imo...it's ... Here and No Further He will defend, because History will support him, but he won't advance because he doesn't need to advance. Shield Not A Spear -- Russian Belief. I'd like him gone, because he is a 3rd rate Poseur if nothing else...him with his bare-chest shooting animals...jeez..what PR did that ??? The Ukraine is to be resolved, and it may come to "might" over "right" IMO the Crimea is Russian, culturally and emotionally as much Russian as it was when Alfred, Lord Tennyson..wrote his pre-Dunkirk poem But, then again this is Putin ennit Last edited by Meini Hirion; August 10th, 2014 at 06:23 AM.. |
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