Conspiracies

[keithpark50]

"I don't know anything about Osama Bin Laden that doesn't come to me through the filter of the West and its propaganda,"

"There is film of the Americans landing on the moon," he pointed out. "Does that mean the moon shot really happened? In the film, the Yanqui flag is flying straight out. So, is there wind on the moon?"

Guess which recently dead South American dictator said.

Hugo Chavez but they would say that he said that to make him look like a Conspiracy Theorist Nut Job just to discredit him with the Well off Interlectual Eletist Western Liberal Left

Works better than highlighting his Human Rights Abuses and stolen Elections

[squigg58]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Well that is a great attitude. VEF members follow suit.

Sad to say, Billy, but I fear the right you exercise to question and criticise the government wouldn't mean Jack Shit under the likes of Chavez, so I for one am not shedding any tears.

As for Mr. Shouty-Angry on the YouTube clip, everything's a bleedin' conspiracy as far as he's concerned. It seems to be almost a religion to him, and like a religion, it gives him the answers he wants. Well, good luck to him. As long as he's happy being angry.

[fleetwood77]

Originally Posted by billybunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lY8yGE7Mlg

Watch and comment.

I hope the Americans did give the greasy bastard cancer and I hope it was sore.

[qwerty007]

OK - I will throw in my $.02

This is a documentary film by Eugene Jarecki





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO7-GBRx1xM



It's a little bit of a long watch, but worth it.

If you've already seen it, please let us know what you think.


Q

[billybunter]

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Well that is a great attitude.

Great attitude Hmmmm, Let's see,

From a credible source... Amnesty International ,

Police and security forces

There were continuing reports of human rights violations by the police, including unlawful killings and torture. Most of these abuses were not properly investigated and little, if any, judicial action was taken.

In May, Juan José Barrios was assassinated by two hooded men in Guanayén, Aragua state. He was the seventh member of the Barrios family to be killed in circumstances that suggested members of the Aragua State Police were involved. In January, Néstor Caudi Barrios, who had witnessed the extrajudicial execution of Narciso Barrios in 2003, was left with permanent injuries after being shot by two men on motorbikes. No progress had been reported in the investigations into these attacks by the end of the year.


In January, Daniel Antonio Núñez and his 16-year-old daughter Francis Daniela Núñez Martínez were beaten and threatened by police officers from the Caracas Investigative Police in an apparent attempt to intimidate them into testifying as witnesses to a shooting near their home.


In February, the former wife and young daughters of police officer Jonny Montoya received death threats. Jonny Montoya had complained about rising corruption under the former Chief Superintendent of the Municipal Police of Caracas.

Nice attitude by a caring Government

Have too agree with Fleets. I hope the US did it, and I hope it was a conspiracy

[billybunter]

I have witnessed state murder in my country. Don't give me Amnesty International crap.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by billybunter

Don't give me Amnesty International crap.

You asked for the debate or comments on Chavez Billy... If you don't like my opinion... Then I'd better ask the thread starter for permission to post.

Amnesty International is a global movement of over 3 million people committed to defending those who are denied justice or freedom.

It's not like they're a military force They can't physically stop a human rights violation, they're just a movement and report things as they see it.

Oh well, Next time I need a 100 % concrete fact, youtube is my friend

[1952224]

.Are you saying you find it acceptable that it is okay for America to kill the democratically elected leader of another country because it does not like him?....http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle31925.htm

[fleetwood77]

Originally Posted by 1952224

Are you saying you find it acceptable that it is okay for America to kill the democratically elected leader of another country because it does not like him?....

Why not - our enemies hate us and would kill us all if they could, so if there is an opportunity why not kill their leaders.