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**scoundrel** · February 23rd, 2016, 11:36 PM

Labour ex-minister Alan Johnson expressed the view today that there is not a single progressive reason to vote to leave the EU. He might be correct; but even though I like to flatter myself that I have a mildly enlightened and progressive bias I have not forgotten when all the progressive voices were gung-ho in favour oif adopting the Euro. That was a damn fool experiment (so Blair was all for it) and keeping Britain on the pound sterling is the best thing Gordon Brown ever did, no matter what his motives were. If I vote to stay in it won't be because it is "progressive"; it will be because I don't tear things down without a good enough reason.

If it were a vote to join the EU as in 1975, I would vote No. I wish we had voted No in 1975; but we didn't, and that's gone. In 1975 we had a strong network of trade relationships with our Commonwealth which we betrayed when we joined the EU and which we will not regain merely by leaving. Frankly, we burned our boats and will be far more alone in the world if we leave the EU now than we were in 1973, before we joined. This is not Celebrity Dancing on Ice; it is very serious business.

February 23rd, 2016, 11:36 PM	#23
scoundrel Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Posts: 26,239 Thanks: 162,404 Thanked 278,548 Times in 26,184 Posts	Labour ex-minister Alan Johnson expressed the view today that there is not a single progressive reason to vote to leave the EU. He might be correct; but even though I like to flatter myself that I have a mildly enlightened and progressive bias I have not forgotten when all the progressive voices were gung-ho in favour oif adopting the Euro. That was a damn fool experiment (so Blair was all for it) and keeping Britain on the pound sterling is the best thing Gordon Brown ever did, no matter what his motives were. If I vote to stay in it won't be because it is "progressive"; it will be because I don't tear things down without a good enough reason. If it were a vote to join the EU as in 1975, I would vote No. I wish we had voted No in 1975; but we didn't, and that's gone. In 1975 we had a strong network of trade relationships with our Commonwealth which we betrayed when we joined the EU and which we will not regain merely by leaving. Frankly, we burned our boats and will be far more alone in the world if we leave the EU now than we were in 1973, before we joined. This is not Celebrity Dancing on Ice; it is very serious business. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.