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Originally Posted by Rubinski View Post
Only problem is Juanita Banana sounds unreliable. Obviously a joke name.
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Somewhere along the way, we need to take what we have and move forward.
Another example was Kiara Vandt an AUPH name (but also in Swank as Lana) that was deemed insufficient because a) AUPH is supposedly more unreliable than other mags, although that view was based not upon actual numbers/data & b) because AUPH claimed she was Malaysian.

I know, it sounds like I've got a bee in my bonnet about this particular model (or AUPH names?). Well, not really/not quite. I still think she could have a thread but I'm really only using her here as an example, because I think it handily illustrates some things. Probably both "Lana" and "Kiara Vandt" are professional, made-up names so why does it matter if it doesn't "sound" Malaysian-enough? She was photog. by Hank Londoner so perhaps the pics. were taken somewhere in Calif., and maybe in a US or other country's mag. she'd have been described as some other suitably "exotic" ethnicity, I dunno. Does her professional name sound sufficiently Californian? /shrug/ I think that's pretty wonky thinking. There are, for example, Polish porn stars with not-at-all Polish-sounding but accepted ids, including sometimes where their "real name" (very Polish) is known, because vef/mir is not about finding models' "real names" just their best-known-as professional handles.

It may be that Kiara Vandt isn't her best-known-as handle, but after having her in MIR for awhile I think more content &/or info. will turn up by releasing her into a more public location (model thread), provided we can find a name that's sufficiently distinctive (searchable) and preferably two-part (also searchable).

Speaking of what seem like joke names, another AUPH name, this time for a claimed Thai model, was the name "Phuc". Also looking through the model names used in 1970s-early-80s UK mags. such as Mayfair, CIUK, Men Only etc. one finds plenty of what seem to me like "joke" names. Many of them read a bit like a Benny Hill type of joke. Others are "exceedingly English" in form: parodically so. Even just the proportion of names that are alliterative (like "Pollyanna Patterson") should probably be a clue that these are not really "real" names.

But we already know we're not looking for "real names", so then why does it seem to matter?--& a mea culpa here, I have at times felt exactly that same way, e.g. Harriet Wilkinson just seems "wrong". Why do we want these known-to-be professional aliases (made-up names) to take a more "believable" form?

Actually, it's perhaps not really a great mystery. We generally want names for humans to seem like real names rather than, say, Ford Prefect, because that helps maintain the illusion, it disguises the pretence. Now, though, having identified/recognised that inclination will we continue to apply it or can we consciously break ourselves free from its spell?

Also, just a note about single-letter e.g. "second" names. They do provide greater distinction in terms of forum listings of model threads/titles but unfortunately they cannot be searched for in vef's search box--i.e. single letters, and guessing but probably also two-letters given that it's a PHP fulltext search function, are classed as "too short"--so they're better than a first-name-only but only v. slightly so.
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