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Originally Posted by movieman88
It made plenty of fucking sense when you consider that saddam was a madman who has committed genocide over the course of the last few decades.
if we are to live in a better world there must be justice, his victims demanded justice. It matters fucking not that there might have been alterior motives for going to Iraq.
Saddam is dead the world is better safer place with out him, SO FUCKING WHAT IF WE TOOK SOME OIL WHILE WE WHERE OVER THERE.
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Hmmm ALL CAPS doesn't make a dumb war any less dumb.
Saddam was a bad guy, and he was useful as an enemy of other bad guys, which is why we'd supported him historically.
He was not a "madman" - he was extremely rational, and brutal.
On the evidence, that seems to be what it takes to run Iraq.
Perhaps you'll explain to me how Saddam's victims differ from today's victims in Iraq; unless you're proposing that the US occupy and administer every rotten place on the Earth, neither your assertion nor the Iraq war made any sense.
Here's Iraq today, in case you missed it -- the news doesn't cover Iraq much any more.
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Originally Posted by Execution-Style Killings in Iraq Raise Fears of Return to Sectarian Violence (NYT)
BAGHDAD A family of five killed in their home. A group of men shot dead in a field. Eight bodies, tied up in cable, discovered on a farm, each with a bullet in the head
More than 300 Iraqis have been killed this month in bombings and shootings in markets, along roadsides, near schools and mosques, and in bakeries. On Tuesday, the United Nations Security Council condemned the recent spike in violence in Iraq and the deliberate targeting of places where civilians congregate.
But on Wednesday, the daily tally of violence took on an air of pinpoint deliberation with the execution-style killings of several groups of civilians, a grim reminder of the worst days of sectarian warfare in the country. While major bombings have become common, the killings reintroduced the prospect of a resurgence in the type of violence that rattled Iraq in 2006 and 2007.
The bodies of the eight young men tied in cable were found on a farm in Jubor, a Sunni city south of Baghdad, the same place other bodies had been dumped during the sectarian turmoil seven years ago.
The bodies of five men shot in the head and chest were found in an open field in Shula, a Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad, the authorities said.
The five family members, including two boys and a girl, were killed by gunshot in their house in Hurriya, a Shiite-majority neighborhood of Baghdad, the police said. They were identified as Sunni, but no further information about them was immediately released.
The 18 dead were among at least 40 people, including security forces, who were killed in attacks across Iraq on Wednesday.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility or way to identify the killers. In the past, the authorities have blamed Sunni militants linked to Al Qaeda, and some point to the civil war in neighboring Syria as a reason sectarian divisions in Iraq have intensified.
Its clear that Al Qaeda, which represents the Sunnis, and the Shiite militias are again back in the streets, said Mazin al-Jubori, a military expert and a former officer during the era when Saddam Hussein was in power.
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It seems hard for me to believe that there was something worthy about Americans getting killed to move Iraq from Saddam's guys killing people to various Shia and Sunni death squads killing people . . . and the distinction is lost on the American people too.
Bad wars do damage, even to great nations. Vietnam did a lot of damage to the US. Iraq and Afghanistan have too
This damage will heal, but it takes time.