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Originally Posted by Quackerson

I mean, all I really "know" of her is what I saw on the PBS Frontline Death Of A Porn Queen program and the few accounts published in newspapers at the time of her death. And how much are you really going to know about someone in terms of what was going on in their head from that limited amount of material? You make an impression based upon what they did.

I am not claiming I know the totality of what she is, but there you do get something from what is seen. I think you can get a lot from a person from a mere few sentences. I hear a lot of intelligence in her recordings.

Then again, I suppose it's possible she would have opted for suicide even if she hadn't done porn.

I think with those parents, suicide was very evident. You can hear it the moment they rejected her one achievement which is the pictures she brought back to show her mom, and her mom refusing. That is unbelievable.

Obviously, I'm not anti-porn. That being said, I'm not sure considering the totality of her life that appearing in porn films and porn mags quite constitutes an accomplishment - seemingly none of that mattered much to her in the final analysis - and I don't consider jacking off to her image a tribute.

It is a tribute to what she achieved. Why not celebrate the art that she gave? She was a beautiful woman that did some pretty decent scenes. I actually argue that her acting wasn't too bad at all either.

Who is anyone to judge what an accomplishment is and what isn't? I think her main issue was not being cared about, not the fact that she did porn.

Not to be harsh or appear contrarian to how you view her, but when I ask myself how she viewed her brief stint in porn, and when I take into account that she had made a choice to stop making films in the year before her suicide while shacking up with her coke dealer boyfriend, and after he was arrested and told her she had to move out of his house and the only thing she had left to turn to was resuming her career in porn and she killed herself just days before she was to do her first porn scene since having left the industry, does that sound like a person who was proud of what she had done in terms of appearing in porn flicks and mags?

When did I ever say she was proud of what she did? Am I to judge what an 18 year old is proud of as indicative of how they would feel about their work later had they lived?

There are lots of actors that are not proud of their work. Some even hate their best art. However, if there is an artist that truly cares about their fans and wants to feel good about what they did...success at that art sure eases the blow. I think a lot of porn stars duck and change names because of what society judges them, not what they actually did.

While she was temporarily peeved at the same way she was judged, would she have perhaps changed her mind if she would have somehow gotten cleaned up and got out of her funk? There are some artists that look back at what they did and actually embrace it.

I think in the words of someone I know, I think more depressing would be that what she did accomplish would be for nothing. I think her story is very compelling to anyone that has felt lost, and in the end her art should be a big part of the story. I can identify with both. Feeling lost and prostituted is one thing, but knowing you have company, and the what you sold still has merit is something else.

What is wrong with feeling pleasure from her work? You really think that would bother her? While she may not have always enjoyed it, she also knew what it was for. Matter of fact in her early interview she says in an explicit way that it is the point of what she does. I can think of no better tribute myself. Should I put up her videos and cry? Should I just forget that she existed because she died?

She died a large part because she didn't have a great support group with her family. She died because she was addicted to drugs. She died most of all because she was young and did not experience enough with life.

I blame the people that judged her just as much as the society that allows this sick idea that filming sex is somehow terrible while wall to wall violence is just all good.

So is it a tribute to get glee from watching Bruce Willis cut someone's throat in a movie? Is it a tribute to get glee from from Black Sabbath playing an A chord? What about getting a rush from watching some skater land a triple axle.

I don't see much difference. Fucking is a natural act and being good at it is very exciting to watch. I guess one finds pleasure in a million different ways. I see it as absolutely a tribute.

But I will leave you with this. Can you imagine if you hated a job, hated going to it, maybe even wish you never did it, then years later people still appreciate your work. It ballooned into how many tributes, you had so many people say you were one of the most beautiful people they ever saw. You had an impact even after 30+ years of being gone. You awesome body still transports them back to a time, the sexual release you show still gets one through those days, and most of all you still feel sad that person is gone.

To quote a song:

"Funny when you're dead how people start listenin'"

I knew her art before she died, and I thought she was one of the most beautiful women in Penthouse. When she died it hit me like a hammer. Though not so much that I would forget all the things that gave me pleasure.

I gotta tell you, the only thing I can think about is where she was in the moment she died, what she said in those last recordings. I cannot imagine her no doubt thinking "I will show them", and then having people just show more and more pity as opposed to seeing her for what she gave?

She was fucking amazing looking and I for one am happy she did what she did. When her boyfriend said he didn't give a shit, or the parents still believing it was only for attention, there is such a severe disconnect, I think most people raised like that would at least feel lost and want to get the fuck away from that shit!