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Old February 14th, 2018, 08:47 PM   #826
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Originally Posted by Brecht View Post
Das Kapital is not something you can easily explain to children. It's a thorough and complex analysis of capitalism, industry, science and their historical evolution. If that were the case, the people in Poland would have been a highly educated nation. I bet your Polish colleague doesn't even know what Das Kapital is about.
We all have it in middle schools (high schools in western system). It is not so complicated, specially for students of economic schools who have whole system about economy (basis of all Marx's works was economy), and rest of us have it trough classes of Marxism.

By the way, does students of economic schools on the West read Kapital, learn about socialism, communism... ?

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Marxism also values work by inputs rather than by results. Give Estreeter and Scoundrel the same ingredients, the same time and the same oven: Estreeter might well bake an excellent loaf of bread whereas Scoundrel produces a lump of charcoal. The same effort and the same materials did not result in the same value and so were not equally worthy of reward.
That is a good thing. Some of them will do something better - so what? All we have is limited time to live, and it is fair to give fair chance to anyone to find his happines, and to spread some minimum standard to all.

Even if man X is 10 times better worker than man Y, it is wrong to give him 10 times more money - simply, he can't drive 10 cars in same time, live in 10 houses, or live 10 times longer. It's one and only life for both, and if they efforts are similar - they paychecks must be at least comparable.


That's logic of socialism... Not perfect, but best I heard for.

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