Logical. Someone maybe remember her as Lucy from some old mag he saw (even the most unreliable one), but surely not as XNK123 @EGAFD. (Pornstars anyway usually use nicknames, often several of them, by the way. No need to tell you...)

Back to basis - if one try to find more materials (the main reason in many cases) googling name Lucy will give some results at the end, but XNK123 can give only one - EGAFD profile, site which we can't control (and which can merge profiles, close one of them, change coding or simply stop working as now).

Maybe just in cases when we don't have anything except XNK123 should be allowed to open topic titled XNK123 but just in PMT, and without calling ID request closed (if HOF game is problem - give point to poster by some lex specialis, points are far from most important thing here). Actually, I think that purport of Pending Model Threads would be missed if we don't use it for cases like this.

Of course, Lucy, XNK123 and EGAFD are just examples, to make story simple.

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Most modern ids are easily solved if shes beautiful,what I mean is she gets a full photographic solo set credited to her by met-art femjoy etc.For the not so beautiful who have credits in porn as name only e.g. Edina a German pornstar who Im searching at the moment for a solve ,she has a huge back catalogue of porn vids but dosent appear on our approved websites or credited anywhere else it seems. I would love to know who gave her the name ,how she got into it ,and she was producing porn as preganant..dont you wonder about their back- story?
p.s. if this is not a fitting post for this thread delete at will...:)

You underestimate us collectors, ponky. I keep images from magazines and movies for thousands of models and actors - e.g. my private movie database alone has about 25,000 entries for actors and actresses, including approximately 4,000 unknowns. These have all their numeric-style names, some home-made, some imported from an external source (such as egafd or Aveleyman), as these give me a cross-reference. Some of these unknowns I know the looks of instantaneously, even from their numeric names. For example, my m012 is a bit part actor whose appearances I have recorded for 52 films (including episodes of TV series), and I still do not know what his flipping name is! There are also quite a few egafd XNKs I know by heart.

egafd actually records these changes in their update lists, and in particular when unknown profiles are merged/solved this is recorded in a list on the website and can be looked up there (still assuming they'll be back); don't know though whether iafd does anything like that. The other thing about egafd/bgafd/iafd is that they avoid duplicate profiles when they can, which means that many unknowns have multiple entries in their list of movies, making their profiles a lot more meaningful.

The flipside of this is my issue with these forename@mag ids: if the name was used in multiple pictorials then fair enough, but typically our Lucy@Wankmaster appeared in other pictorials under a different name whilst Wankmaster magazine re-used forename Lucy for further pictorials. So it neither leads to any kind of interesting profile nor is it unique; the XNK numbers, even if the profile is disappointingly trivial (1 entry) will at least be unique.

Probably joke but I'll say that I didn't have intent to underestimate anybody; I appreciate the commitment, dedication. :thumbsup:

However, I do not see the reason for closing topic as solved if we don't find "normal" profile on usual databases or other common ways (keep it open - the simplest solution and win-win situation which satisfies both ideas). That is not ban on posts with link at some "XNK", "unknown" or similar profile-pages, they can be very useful... but I would say that for someone mag nickname is useful also. There everybody can pick nickname, name, code... for their folders on HD, depending on the habits, knowledge, etc.

In worst case scenario some topic will be open for years, maybe even forever - but we really don't loose anything. In other hand, less experienced topic-starter with "unknown @..." as final answer gets very little, with smaller chance for improving in some time period (let's say next several months or years in Mystery Corner).

and the day when you find his name, i guess you'll take advantage of this, rather than "m012".

and what ID do they chose when they merge/replace unknowns with a named ID card? still XNK? ;)

personally, i do it quite the same as you with my private(!) collection. all models are based on "unique keys", on a numeric ID. but that's not the "name" property. same with egafd and iafd. we all use this unique ID only if the name property is empty (and create something like "unknown [unique ID]").

a model ID request is usually started to fill the name property, not to receive a unique key someone is using instead.

is any starter of the thousands of still unsolved requests worried if these few "unknown female 1234 @iafd" / "XNK 4321" fills the amount of unsolved threads or the mystery box?

names are never unique. those which stay (or still are) unique are just lucky that either their performer name is carved in stone (successful models) - or - that their performer name is a very creative one. but i guess the main point is that many models do not even want to reach a recognizable name. so it's just part of this special business that they get called somehow, and often pretty random.

nevertheless, if "Lucy @Wankmaster" is such an insufficient ID, then it's rather the question if such a request should better stay unsolved as well, than to do it totally wrong by chosing "Unknown xxx @yyy" as a solved request just because we've saying "Lucy @Wankmaster" is a solve (which, to me, is still more of a solve than "unknown xxx @yyy")


they create redirects, so old links still work but lead to a single, merged profile. at least i am sure with this if multiple different names have been merged, i guess they do the same if unknowns find a name. they don't have a log like egafd had.

I think we should have the EGAFD UNK number searchable on the MIR thread, and link the EGAFD page there too.
That info should be searchable and linked in their Model thread too.

I don't care if we use names or numbers.
I just need something to call the folder, so I can collect the info and content.
Some of my folders have my MIR request thread number in the folder name, but I usually have a time frame, hair color, and first name listed first.

As for solving the requests, it depends on the girl, how long we've waited, the IDs we've seen, the content available, and the sources.

I wouldn't mind leaving the threads open for better ID, but MIR threads are not as visible as model section threads, and scan section mods will not accept links to model request threads.

Bottom line, when the threads resides in MIR, they are less visible, which makes more ID info and content less likely.

So, we need to get these girls an actual model thread, to get the extra visibility.
Especially the pretty ones with some decent content.

The only problem with starting a thread on a poor ID is, model mods usually trash ID info, and/or move threads without redirects.
Makes it hard for interested parties to keep up with.

Interested parties may still be subscribed, and their subscriptions should move, but
if the post with the better ID info was trashed, you wouldn't get any notice.

So, there are problems with solving it early, and problems with solving it later.

However, I think there are times when we should solve a request with what we have.
If Website-AAA has her as UNK 1234 in one movie, that may be the best we ever get.
If there are more titles linked at Website-AAA, I think it becomes more justified to use, but I'm not sure what the model section mods would think about a model thread called UNK 1234 @ Website AAA.
Does anyone know the rule? I hesitate to ask.

If the Model mods won't accept a number as a thread title, I'm not sure we should call it solved with a number.

I think some first names are allowed.
Hopefully a model with some decent content would at least have one first name ID we could use, and then we could add UNK 1234 @ Website AAA as an AKA.

Indeed they would say precisely that, if asked. But that's also different from how they behave in practice--I mention this without meaning to imply any criticism by that, just observing, because it seems pertinent. I'm sure you all don't need me to tell you there are lots of existing single-pictorial model threads, and they're by no means all "old" ones, either.

It was some years ago now (so the mod team would have changed since), but...

When I first started to contribute significantly to the model area I created a thread called "Lesser known Sexy models" (or something similar) that included likely one-off pictorials that appeared in the German mag Sexy. Next thing I noticed was that the thread had gone and a mod had split it into four individual model threads. Subsequently I liberally created fresh model threads, even if only based on a single image.

when it comes to model threads (and not fetish themed like "boobs", "matures", "stockings" or publication themed like "men only", "teendreams" etc), it should always be 1 model per thread and there should be no rule at all how much stuff has to be available at start. as if amount of threads would be a problem in a forum.

threads like "lesser known models" are just lazy, and the performance and search-worthyness is pita. it should have never been allowed to start or it should have been splitted early. now it's too late.

also, modern section should have a separation of pornstars and softcore models. this would eventually lower the amount of threads slightly ;). i have no idea why of all things "celebrities" are treated special in classic and in modern - in a forum dedicated to e r o t i c a.

Well, we have a few of those in the celebs area, and one can make a case for them. As single threads they just get lost in a sea of threads, where they wither slowly but surely into obscurity. Packaged together around a thematic grouping (in the celebs area it is by country) they attract a larger audience. When the posts for some model/celeb reach a certain level her posts are pulled out and turned into a separate thread.

Well, the content of those threads often tend to be rather different, indicating a rather different form of fan devotion. The distinction between softcore models and celebs is rather fluid though, so the categorical distinction into different subfora is rather artificial.