Vintage Erotica Forums

Vintage Erotica Forums (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/index.php)
-   ID Projects, ID Sheets & ID CSVs (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=54)
-   -   The Electric Blue Project (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?t=269491)

Immy June 25th, 2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baranovich (Post 2947112)
These are the two thumbnails below that look the most strikingly like different women to me. The rest of the thumbnails from the original post look more consistent to being the same girl, with shape of nose, eyes, face, etc. But these two I have the most questions about. This is the cluster of five thumbnails that I'm going to do some digging on, because I'm going to work for a bit on the assumption and hunch that I'm possibly looking at three different women in these five thumbnails. If it doesn't lead anywhere, I'll come back to the start and I'll reset.

http://ist2-2.filesor.com/pimpandhos...32791745_0.jpg http://ist2-2.filesor.com/pimpandhos...32791751_0.jpgParticularly this thumbnail, if you compare it to the three thumbnails below, it really looks like two different women facially, this was the one that popped out to me first when I saw all the thumbnails together.

Those aren't my best work I'll admit. :o I grabbed the first topless pic and in both cases they didn't show her at her best, first one being a profile, the other, while a great topless shot, has her squinting because she can't find her glasses. Here are two more from those eps that show her "similarities" better:

http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...e335170526.jpg http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...e335170528.jpg

Thx for the kind words about my, um, "research". :D Some people cure diseases, some climb mountains. This what I do. I had the same formative memories about the series (at an older age than you I must say :o) but one person on this site hit it exactly - EB was a fantasy alternate universe where casual, random nudity was not only permissable but healthy and encouraged.

And there was some genuinely funny dialog in the main stories, in fact one comes to mind involving our Girl X. There's a scene early in Beauty Pageant (#33) where the girls decide "Screw the pageant rules, we're going out to look for men". Texas gal Tammy Lee Curtis is all in: "I got a hankerin' for the good ol' smell of horse manure and stables". Girl X lends her support: "I could use some fresh air too." LOL

Another source that has proven successful for me are 80s issues of Club, Men Only and EB mags themselves of course. A comprehensive list of Brit models who worked exclusively in the 80s would be a big help. By randomly trolling the depths of IAFD I've nailed down virtually every major pornstar from the era who could have appeared. The latest discoveries tend to be B-starlets like Jennifer Noxt. Got a feeling minor babes like that are the only ones left.

Baranovich June 25th, 2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immy (Post 2947408)
Those aren't my best work I'll admit. :o I grabbed the first topless pic and in both cases they didn't show her at her best, first one being a profile, the other, while a great topless shot, has her squinting because she can't find her glasses. Here are two more from those eps that show her "similarities" better:

http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...e335170526.jpg http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...e335170528.jpg

Thx for the kind words about my, um, "research". :D Some people cure diseases, some climb mountains. This what I do. I had the same formative memories about the series (at an older age than you I must say :o) but one person on this site hit it exactly - EB was a fantasy alternate universe where casual, random nudity was not only permissable but healthy and encouraged.

And there was some genuinely funny dialog in the main stories, in fact one comes to mind involving our Girl X. There's a scene early in Beauty Pageant (#33) where the girls decide "Screw the pageant rules, we're going out to look for men". Texas gal Tammy Lee Curtis is all in: "I got a hankerin' for the good ol' smell of horse manure and stables". Girl X lends her support: "I could use some fresh air too." LOL

Another source that has proven successful for me are 80s issues of Club, Men Only and EB mags themselves of course. A comprehensive list of Brit models who worked exclusively in the 80s would be a big help. By randomly trolling the depths of IAFD I've nailed down virtually every major pornstar from the era who could have appeared. The latest discoveries tend to be B-starlets like Jennifer Noxt. Got a feeling minor babes like that are the only ones left.

Woah....damn Immy, I think you're right. Good eye mate! Now that I look at the other views you provided, and that detail where you pointed out that she's squinting in that one shot... these are all the same girl! Ok then, it's back to ID'ering her then!

One thing I did find last night which I thought was curious. I was looking at IMDB's massive monster site(The Internet Movie Database), which even though it's not a porn resources site perse, since it covers mostly mainstream, they DO catalog and list softcore porn movies and TV series, as well as erotic B-movie softcore actresses.

I looked up quite a few of the E.B. episodes, they have the full casts listed for each episode.

For E.B. #30, they do reference the "Hotline Operator", and the actress credited with the role is "Tammy White". Is this thumbnail that you have for Ep.#30 showing the Hotline Operator character on the phone?
http://ist2-2.filesor.com/pimpandhos...791744_0_0.jpg

Surely, the mystery girl can't be Tammy White, right? IMDB must have it wrong, if it had been that obvious you guys would have ID'd her years ago.

Baranovich June 25th, 2014 11:16 PM

Immy, you've probably been to this site a million times already over the years, but I thought it worth was a shot in the dark. This is the link to where they credit the Hotline Operator as "Tammy White".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220412/

I was assuming that since the thumbnail you show of that girl is her talking on the phone, that she was the Hotline Operator character. But there's no way she could be Tammy White.

Immy June 26th, 2014 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baranovich (Post 2947592)
Immy, you've probably been to this site a million times already over the years, but I thought it worth was a shot in the dark. This is the link to where they credit the Hotline Operator as "Tammy White".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220412/

I was assuming that since the thumbnail you show of that girl is her talking on the phone, that she was the Hotline Operator character. But there's no way she could be Tammy White.

And here we have one of my glaring IMDB errors I haven't attempted to fix yet. :o

http://ist1-4.filesor.com/pimpandhos...4.04.43__0.jpg

This is 80s porn starlet Lori Marr. Way back when, I thought this was Tami White aka Tammy White aka Ariel Knight, but a VEF member put me straight not too long ago. So the IMDB entry you're citing refers to this gal. I appreciate the attempt though. :thumbsup:

Here's the best group shot I could get of all the Hotline babes -

http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...e335233274.jpg
Left to right we have an unknown (30-2), Jennifer Noxt, Lori Marr and Girl X. Only the unknown blonde (30-4) isn't seen.

Baranovich June 26th, 2014 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immy (Post 2947656)
And here we have one of my glaring IMDB errors I haven't attempted to fix yet. :o

http://ist1-4.filesor.com/pimpandhos...4.04.43__0.jpg

This is 80s porn starlet Lori Marr. Way back when I thought this was Tami White aka Tammy White aka Ariel Knight, but a VEF member put me straight not too long ago. So the IMDB entry you're citing refers to this gal. I appreciate the attempt though. :thumbsup:

Here's the best group shot I could get of all the Hotline babes -

http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...e335233274.jpg
Left to right we have an unknown (30-2), Jennifer Noxt, Lori Marr and Girl X. Only the unknown blonde (30-4) isn't seen.

Ahhh, ok so that episode had multiple Hotline babes, see I'm catching up to all this, makes my effort with IMDB seem a little foolish and short-sided, sorry about that. You're well on top of this, you've got this thing documented down to every last possible angle.

So Girl X is one of four hotline operators, wow.

God, well if she's gone unidentified for this long, going on 30 years, the only experience I can bring to it is just helping as one of the leg people and just think of random and alternative ways of trying to bump into her name.

I have ID'd unknown girls in the past by literally doing Ebay and Amazon searches, and looking at enlarged rear views of DVD and VHS boxes, and spotting the same angle of the same scene she was in, or her face. The only problem with that was that in those instances I was visually trying to track down a specific porn SCENE with a girl in it, NOT a name, in some instances I just wanted the scene and didn't need to know who she was specifically.

But, as I'm sure you are well aware, those kinds of searches are desperate, take up a lot of time, and without a name you're going blind. I won't tell you how many hours I used up going up and down rows of Europorn DVD box covers to try to track down one particular blonde from way back. I DID succeed, but only after WAY more time was spent on it than I should have, and it was literally because I found by chance the very same scene in minute thumbnail, and I saw her.

I've been through this EXACT same thing! Here was my all-consuming, crowning obsession, and it took me nearly 13 years before I found out who she was! And even in the end, despite all my efforts, I found her totally by accident. This girl for me was what your Girl X is to you now. Trying to find out who this redhead was became all-consuming. For over a decade all I knew her as was a 30-second clip entitled Batcum104.avi, "redhead cumshot".

http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhos...6m29s223_0.jpg

Was only just last year when I spotted her face in a thumbnail of a full-length amateur video posted on a streaming site. Wasn't even searching for her that day. Found out her name is f'n KIVA. Of all things, a name that simple!! 13 years, and it was four simple, short letters, just like that!!

After seeing how well and exhaustively you and others have documented all the E.B. episodes, it seems that doing mainstream database searches as I attempted are quite useless. I Googled for almost two hours nothing but "Electric Blue episodes cast listings", and "Electric Blue uncredited cast", and "Electric Blue list of uncredited actresses", and then went by each episode number. As you've probably already known for 10+ years, damn hell there isn't much out there on this!

I'm going to focus on Ebay and used VHS dealers, and just focus on all things Electric Blue, by episode. I'll just see if I can randomly come across some collection of E.B. episodes for sale, where the guy selling them has good resolution shots of each box that he's selling. Sometimes for some crazy, random reason, the guy selling them somehow knew the names of everybody in the cast and posts it along with the listing he's selling. Longshot but I have seen it in the past.

I had success with ID'ing girls doing the same kind of thing with the used porn magazine sites. A few in particular have surprisingly large and clear photos of magazines, front cover, and some back cover as well. I was able to track down the names of a few unknown Penthouse(not the pets of the month, but the in-between pictorial girls that end up falling into black holes over time) and Playboy models from way back. I just methodically went year by year and looked at front and back covers one by one.

I'm going to see if I can come up with anything, I'll keep you posted Immy!

Immy July 2nd, 2014 08:58 AM

Alrighty then, almost a month into this and the unknowns have been reduced from 161 to 145. :thumbsup:

Quote:

I had success with ID'ing girls doing the same kind of thing with the used porn magazine sites. A few in particular have surprisingly large and clear photos of magazines, front cover, and some back cover as well. I was able to track down the names of a few unknown Penthouse(not the pets of the month, but the in-between pictorial girls that end up falling into black holes over time) and Playboy models from way back. I just methodically went year by year and looked at front and back covers one by one.
This was a brilliant suggestion Baranovich! My last three solves were due to this method. In one case I stumbled across one of my caps right in the mag! That also led me to the realization that some of the early "Therapy Corner" and "Fantasy Woman" segments may be clips from films. Cinema review mags may very well be fruitful for more solves.

If you sleuths haven't strolled thru the unknowns in the last couple of weeks, do give them another look. I've put a few possible names to faces so feel free to tell me I'm out of my mind. :D

Quote:

I'm going to see if I can come up with anything, I'll keep you posted Immy!
Bring on those results B-man! :thumbsup:

Immy July 5th, 2014 08:35 PM

Added three more unknowns that I somehow overlooked in my initial go-thru. Check them out in eps #7, 19 & 28.

Also added links to a couple of girls with Mystery Box posts.

sillyBus July 7th, 2014 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immy (Post 2929745)
EB #3 (1983)

http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/33...e332046551.jpg http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...3332046552.jpg http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...3332046554.jpg http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...d332046555.jpg
(3-1) In "Hot Property" called either Zara or Claire.

http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...e332046556.jpg http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...c332046557.jpg http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/33...7332046558.jpg http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/33...8332046559.jpg
(3-2) In "Hot Property" called either Zara or Claire.

http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...1332046560.jpg http://thumbnails110.imagebam.com/33...c332046562.jpg http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/33...a332046563.jpg http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/33...3332046564.jpg
(3-3) With Debbie Boyland and Fia Morrow in the "Brooklyn Bars" music video, called Nikki.

KC Valentine is the blonde with the small boobs on her back.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...t=kc+valentine

Immy July 7th, 2014 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sillyBus (Post 2958971)
KC Valentine is the blonde with the small boobs on her back.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...t=kc+valentine

Ba-da-bing!

Brilliant detective work sillyBus. :thumbsup:

Mulholand July 20th, 2014 07:33 PM

Hello Immy,

here are a few cents worth of additional info that might or might not be of use:

As for the "stories" in episode 53 and onward, these were all directed by Chuck Vincent. Before that, I have no idea, but would very much like to know. Probably it's someone we've heard of.

Here's a video cover, graced by Girl X. Of course, she's not in the film itself.

http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhos..._heute_8_0.jpg


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:45 PM.



vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.6.1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.