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jesegr December 11th, 2017 02:01 PM

Hef's Vaults
 
Ran across this on a 'blind item' celeb gossip site. They guy who posts this stuff is supposedly a entertainment lawyer who has been in the biz for decades.

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The Priceless Collection - A Himmmm Blind: I thought it may be nice to share an item that didn't include kids being abused. Although I warn you it is adult in nature with some very adult descriptions, all the participants seemed over legal age and there of their own choice – well, as far as I knew anyway, some were borderline in age and some may have been so chemically altered they had no idea where they were. I think that's my excuse from back in the day anyway. So, this Fall – in October- I got a call from an old friend, who is an attorney working with the estate of a dead legendary celebrity (permanent A list celebrity) whom I will refer to as PM. PM died recently and left behind a large estate to be settled, and it was easy to forget how powerful he once was and what an original "influencer" he was on shaping culture in his time. My friend said they've been overseeing the catalog inventory of items of the estate. They were going through some old personal photos taken at a party of PM (Annual Shakespeare like party in name only) and said he'd found some hilarious photos of me from back in the 1980s, and would I like them? Scared at first, I was reassured the were only mildly embarrassing. Photos of me, two models, drunk in a pool one night with an inflatable ducky pool float on my head. Egad. I went to the legendary estate of PM and found it more run down than I recall, and quite vacant. My lawyer pal and one of his investigator/paralegals were there, along with PM's son. We'd never met, but he was very nice, and asked if I minded going underground to the vault with them. A security guy started with us, but stopped at the elevator and we three went down together. We all descended into the depths of the house to a walk-in bank vault installed actually BENEATH the basement of the house. Like a bunker, with tunnels going to someplace. It was as big as a living room. I thought it peculiar when they both said I needed to leave all cell phones and electronics on the table outside the big vault. They said that no electronics are ever allowed inside, and when you pass through the entrance to the vault there's a "net" that will erase things and jam signals and it will kill your phone. Wild. I thought we just did that in movies and not sure it really existed. I happily complied, left my goods, and in we went. After walking through a laser beam that made you feel like you had to whizz really badly, we were inside the "room". The Son flipped on a switch and air rushed through vents, and he pulled a metal shutter door closed behind us. I saw rows of metal cabinets lined the walls, with ceiling-high pull-out drawers. Inside were usual trappings of protected fame and wealth; including old films, documents, papers, and photos. Lots of artwork including Warhol's, Dali's, and others. All climate controlled and mint. I asked about the Warhol's, and the Monet, and the obvious Picasso. The Son said: "Oh yeah, most of the valuables he kept in here. Some of his business stuff he kept backups of at a bunker thing in some place in Utah, but most was in here. He liked to enjoy his collections. But the paintings aren't the most valuable. He owns the most priceless things in history. He has the largest collection of unreleased movies ever – maybe worth billions." Somehow, I thought he meant like old silent films. I wasn't even close to being right. We moved to a manila folder and pulled out old 35mm prints of party pictures. They handed me the photos of me (OMFG! Cringe!), and I thanked them for giving them up so gently (Was I really that young looking once? Wow). My curiosity was peaked when I saw piles of old photos, folders, and stacks of old home movie reels and videos sitting inside the vault. They had names on them, and dates with some having events listed. My pal caught my stare and said "Yeah, you're not the only one. And these are NOT ready for prime time!". PM's son invited me to the long, wide table (this place looked more like a hospital exam room than a library), and started showing me folders. He played this game that went like this: "Any idea who this is?". When I looked at the photo, I was speechless. There, in front of me was (permanent A list country singer who has been A list for decades) totally nude in all her glory – obviously from the late 1970s. At a party inside an indoor pool. She's nude, laughing, with two girls on either side. I had forgotten how short she was. And yes, they were real and they were magnificent (and it wasn't Mulva either!). After picking up my jaw, I then perused the piles of videos. My lawyer pal and the Son just glanced at each other with Cheshire grins. One had the name of a legendary TV star (former A list mostly television actress and one year wonder) who was maybe my first screen crush. I turned to the Son and my pal – "NO F—CKING WAY". They both erupted laughing. Yes, they said. Way. The Son turned around and against the wall was a small combo TV/VCR unit, beside a DVD console, an old movie studio-style film viewer for 8mm and 16mm movies, and a photo box for blowing up pictures and slides. He turned on the VCR, and within seconds, in front of my eyes was that TV Star in all her wondrous glory. Not just nude, but having sex. First by herself, then with a guy. You can tell it is an old 16mm film cheap-loop porno reel transferred to video. The Son said: "Dad had a ton of this stuff. Some of it he shot, some of it he produced. A lot of it though was bought from blackmailers and others to keep it out of the public eye. He bought it to PROTECT a lot of his friends and they returned favors". I was floored, watching this pre-fame goddess on all fours clearly enjoying herself. With her recent popular resurgence, I can only imagine the value of this tape copy alone. I asked if I could check it out, like a library – you know, for educational history purposes only. They laughed. Not a chance. There weren't even cameras INSIDE the vault, to reduce the risk of any security guards recording anything second-hand. And that laser net was to keep anyone from walking away with anything. This first tape was a drop in the bucket. The Son and my lawyer pal fired up the whole video suite there in the back of the vault, to show me this collection. I've rarely been so speechless in my life. If I was a college-aged kid again, I'd have been in paradise. Most of the items there were from the 1950s through the early 2000s. Or so I thought. Those were just the ones I saw myself. Apparently, this place was the Smithsonian of celebrity nudes and porn items. Since this story is long, I'll cut to the chase to share what I witnessed with my own eyes, all in one afternoon in the same place (I will just list these and the details with them but I was so shocked I could barely keep up with it all): Early 1980s video of this female permanent A list celebrity/host who has been on television forever in the same exact job and this deceased permanent A list male singer who loved grunting and drugs both nude at outdoor pool. She's also got a very endowed white guy laying beside of her. She starts pleasuring herself as the musical legend gets aroused. A young blonde model joins her and they tease the singer by doing things with each other. So much for her mostly-pure image. Apparently she really is bisexual! This former A- list mostly television actress who was on a very very hot southern show and had an iconic character name back when she was a little chubby and obviously young. Looks like 1970s. A filmed stag loop of her nude, then joining a porn star (former A list porn star who made her last movie three decades ago. I think she won an AVN Award or two) on a motel bed. I was told this was cut from an early studio film of hers. But this tape continues, and then shows the same star, with the porn star again, in a home movie at the house we're standing in. And this legendary actor (permanent A+ list mostly movie actor who I feel is going to die any day now and was a staple of 80's National Enquirer covers) joins in and all three have sex. The Son told me his dad, PM, filmed this upstairs at this house. PM helped make the girl a star through his television producer pals. Former A- list mostly television actress from an iconic long running network show which had a horrible reboot in the early 1980s, in an early VHS home video with PM and his girlfriend. All three in bed, having sex. The television actress is another who began her career after PM "launched" her to fame. My lawyer pal turns to me and says "you do know she was a call right?". I had heard, but wow. Permanent A+ list mostly movie actress who got PM started in a way in old black and white 1950s era photos, with her face smiling and her body fully nude, spread, and posing. Permanent A list mostly movie actress who had a killer daughter so to speak in black and white photos. A lot of them. Some of her nude, some of her having sex with a guy, and her with a nude female I could not recognize. Again, that unmistakable face and figure. She was a blonde, and looked to be in her peak famous days. I just stared at these a while, and my lawyer pal said that PM got those through infamous attorney who represented Clarence Darrow back in the day and and mobster ________, around the time the actress was in a big scandal. Her lawyer sneaked these out of her dead boyfriend's apartment before the cops or media got there. It was like LA Confidential for real. PM offered them to the actress years later, for free, and she didn't want them but asked he not share them. PM agreed, and kept his word. She was truly stunning, in every way. Others that were seen on video, films, or in photos (either in professional test shot nudes, or homemade nudes/sex) included:
PM: Hugh Hefner/Playboy Mansion Permanent A list country singer: Dolly Parton
Former A list mostly television actress and one year wonder: Farrah Fawcett (one season of "Charlie’s Angels")
Female permanent A list celebrity/host who has been on television forever in the same exact job: Vanna White
Deceased permanent A list male singer who loved grunting and drugs: James Brown
Former A- list mostly television actress who was on a very very hot southern show and had an iconic character name back when she was a little chubby and obviously young: Catherine Bach ("The Dukes of Hazzard"/Daisy Duke)
Porn star (former A list porn star who made her last movie three decades ago): Marilyn ChambersLegendary actor (permanent A+ list mostly movie actor who I feel is going to die any day now): Burt Reynolds (Barbi Benton)
Former A- list mostly television actress from an iconic long running network show which had a horrible reboot in the early 1980s: Joan Collins ("Dynasty")
Permanent A+ list mostly movie actress who got PM started: Marilyn Monroe
Permanent A list mostly movie actress who had a killer daughter: Lana Turner (daughter Cheryl Crane confessed to killing Lana’s former boyfriend Johnny Stompanato)
1. Former A+ list mostly television actress who does a lot of infomercials: Suzanne Somers
2. Former A list mostly movie actress who recently had a birthday and who has a barely there celebrity offspring. Kim Basinger (Ireland Baldwin)
3. Former A- list mostly television actress/model who had to replace one of the biggest stars ever: Cheryl Ladd (replaced Farrah Fawcett on "Charlie’s Angels")
4. Former A list mostly movie actor who is an Oscar winner/nominee and has an almost as famous offspring. Kirk Douglas (son Michael Douglas)
5. Former A- list Cinemax late night actress who is married to a permanent A lister and foreign born Bond girl both having sex, with each other and snorting coke. Shannon Tweed (Gene Simmons)
6. The unnamed face behind a lot of recent blinds snorting cocaine with this one named icon. The icon was also captured with a horrible boob job: Madonna
7.This former A list mostly television actor who always played a cop and was partnered with a sexual predator getting oral sex from some female. Robert Culp ("I Spy"/Bill Cosby)
8. Former A+ list mostly movie actress with the unique voice drunk, in 1980s polaroids, nude with a skinny man I cannot recognize: Kathleen Turner
9. Former A- list mostly movie actress who made her fame in a certain type of 70's films swimming nude, no implants needed! Wow. Pam Grier
10. A former Playmate who you will never get so I'm not going to bother having sex with a still alive permanent A+ list producer. Robert Evans
11. This foreign born former A- list syndicated actress who got her start getting naked, very young, before implants, and nude in a video having sex with PM. Pamela Anderson
12. A celebrity offspring of celebrity offspring in an acting family in early 1980s, in grainy video, masturbating graphically in front of PM on a overstuffed sofa.
Then I saw a jaw-dropper that made me uncomfortable. #12 when she was young, teenage young, at a party with a very young former A+ list mostly movie actress who still has A+ list name recognition despite not doing much for decades – looked in her early teens. Some are Polaroid photos of the two drinking and kissing each other. French kissing each other, with people around watching. Both were clothed – not nude. Must have been 20 pictures of them drinking, dancing, and licking/kissing each other with dancing adults around them. This was the only thing there that looked sketchy, but they weren't nude. In fact, you could see that from her years before (her first movie) in a cinema. Makes me afraid to wonder what else they did though?
13. Former WH official who is a talking head now, in swim trunks with a nude model you won't get sitting astride him, kissing him: George Stephanopoulos
14. Famous nude model who got murdered, having sex, riding PM in his bed: Dorothy Stratten
15. Clear video of former news kingpin/sports owner in a robe beside a pool smoking a joint and laughing with two nude models: Ted Turner (Jane Fonda)
16. A list mostly movie actress who deserves to be about a B+ but has that A list iconic character and show to fall back on topless, underneath a waterfall, and standing beside a pool making faces at a photographer topless in just a bikini bottom. Photos from the 1990s: Sarah Jessica Parker
17. Former A+ list reality star and her mom both looking drunk or drugged, dancing in lingerie and falling over each other and others. Photos from a party, and the last few photos showed the celebrity daughter totally nude, wasted, standing atop a table: Paris and Kathy Hilton (replacement Kim Kardashian)
So just when my head had stopped spinning, and I had not spoken or taken a breath in 20 minutes, the Son and my pal were laughing at my shock. I just was shaking my head, and asked them if they had any idea the value of this stuff? If this replacement to #17 could make an empire off a sex tape can you imagine what this stuff would do? The Son then reaches over and says "Pffft- speaking of…". And shows me a folder of photos taken from the early 1990s, with #17's mom and this former A+ list athlete both nude, on a pool table, with her riding him. Wow. Reaching onto the floor, the Son pushes buttons on a smaller safe's keypad. It opens, and he pulls out more VHS tapes, polaroids, and videotapes from old film transfers. He says: "These are the Mona Lisa's. Dad didn't want these even mixed in with the others". At this point I'm expecting to see woodcut engravings of George Washington getting freaky with Jesus and Napoleon or something. I don't think anything could blow my mind more than what I'd seen. I was wrong. Former spouse of #15 having lesbian sex on video with another woman in a hotel. They are obvious taking turns recording it themselves. This appears to be late 80s or early 90s, in front of balcony doors at night. With #15 performing oral sex on the other woman, then the former spouse using a strap-on device on #15. "I think Dad got this from a competing publisher" said the Son. What the actual f….??, I thought. The original to #3 in the late 70s in photos making out with another girl, and totally nude with PM in his bed.
#18 - Former A list mostly movie actress who was not that great of an actress but very good looking in the 1980s and there's three video tapes and an envelope of photos of her trying on lingerie. Then nude. Then having sex with PM. Then another tape of her having sex with that producer mentioned above. She has stretch marks I didn't know she had. Still the ultimate goddess: Bo Derek
#19 - Foreign born former WH official kissing #18's nude breasts in polaroids: Henry Kissinger
#20 - Former spouse to the one named icon mentioned earlier is laying on a chair laughing, drinking. His wife at the time very flirty to the cameraman and goes from the pool to her husband and back in the water: Sean Penn/Robin Wright
#21 - Former TV dad turned sexual predator in an 8mm silent home movie on a pool chair, making faces, as a brunette model performs oral sex on him. At least she's awake!: Bill Cosby
#22 - Former A list country singer who got started as a teenager on very grainy video, laying on a sofa nude, an African-American woman performs oral sex on her. After several minutes, the nude woman turns around and it is a former Bond villian!!! Wow. The country singer looks tiny compared to the Amazon woman. The country singer gets up and walks to a pool table, climbs up, laughs and the camera cuts off. Tanya Tucker/Grace Jones
There was an entire plastic storage case full of envelopes and folders with dates, names, and events listed on them. More than I could have watched in a week. Some I didn't get to see but noticed the names were:
#23 - Former A list female tennis player from the 70's and 80's: Chris Evert
#24 - Former brat pack actor: Rob Lowe
#25 - Permanent A+ list model with celebrity offspring: Cindy Crawford
#26 - Permanent A list singer in a group/never solo.
#27 - Former Dallas actress: Victoria Principal
#28 - Worst dad ever. Married to someone mentioned twice so far: Ryan O'Neal (Farrah Fawcett)
In some of these I did see, you could tell that PM was clearly recording it (his voice was obvious). Others you hear a woman's voice behind the camera. The Son said sometimes PM would keep a cameraman on hand at parties just for this purpose. I asked the Son if it ever skeeved him out, with that being his Dad? He laughed and said "Nope – it's not like I was afraid of sex or nudity any way. But funny enough my folks were pretty protective of us and I didn't even know this stuff was here until Dad got sick. I still don't know who half these people are." Realizing the time passed, and my mind totally blown, we headed back out – making it through the James Bond setup again, and getting my stuff to leave. I thanked them both for an insanely mind-altering experience, but mostly for my own photos (which obviously wouldn't make any highlight reels around here). I had to know, so I just blurted it out and asked what they were going to do with all of it. The Son said, "Most of it goes back to the people in them – if they want them. That's what Dad said he wanted. Some of it I'm supposed to hold on to, because people may want to take out grudge's against Dad on me so I'm keeping them. The rest? Well…". And he just shrugged and smiled a big smile. At that moment, he really did look like his old man. All the way back home I just couldn't stop replaying what I'd seen. Especially that lady singer with those big…eyes. Wow. Impressive. My wife got a kick out of my own photos and said she was disappointed I wasn't more "exposed". I didn't share with her the exposure I'd just seen or my relief that I wasn't exposed. I do know this – that if suddenly, in the next few years, a large amount of classic celebrity sex tapes and photos start hitting the market? I'll know the source.

Banpan December 12th, 2017 12:01 AM

Although funny to read these ¤Blind Items¤ stories, I don't believe one single word of it. It is very easy to write what I would call fan fiction, when you're anonymous, so when I stumble over ¤Blind Gossip¤ I immediately write them off as fake.

- but thanks anyway - it was fun reading. :)

cginok December 12th, 2017 01:12 AM

I agree. That whole thing smacks of fiction. The first part, about all the laser beams and vaults and so on sounds like something right out of a James Bond villain's hideout or Mission Impossible movie.

As for the list of "stars," Heff's...I mean PM's...magazine published nude photos of some of the same stars that were listed as being "protected" by Ole Heff. Vanna White and Suzanne Somers for example. You can search this very forum and find pics of those two, and others mentioned, Victoria Principal comes to mind.

The only thing I did think of while reading that is to imagine if they had cell phone cameras in say the 60's or 70's, like we have today, just imagine the pics that could've been taken at some of those Playboy Mansion parties.

seany65 December 12th, 2017 11:01 PM

Hasn't that story appeared on here in the past couple of days?

angler12 December 14th, 2017 08:35 AM

I would like to believe the story is true, but unless someone edited the contents of the article into its current format, I doubt any lawyer would write such a lengthy diatribe, without at least splitting it up into manageable sized paragraphs.

In its present form, it is horrendously long and thus difficult to read.

howdy2 May 7th, 2018 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by angler12 (Post 4264868)
I would like to believe the story is true, but unless someone edited the contents of the article into its current format, I doubt any lawyer would write such a lengthy diatribe, without at least splitting it up into manageable sized paragraphs.

In its present form, it is horrendously long and thus difficult to read.

The quote is from the entertainment lawyer's site (crazydaysandnights.*et) but it wasn't written by him. His posts are signed, "Enty." This one was by a different (but regular) source that goes by "Himmmm". And yeah, he is frequently taken to task by readers for posting overly long items.

Boomer June 20th, 2018 04:43 AM

As a life long Hef fan and watcher, I tend to believe a lot of it- first because I caught many many of the names right off of the bat, and also because Hef had an obsession with archiving things, from his legendary scrapbooks to endless recording of old films off of TCM and such. He actually had a staff of guys recording and editing a gazillion movies and shows to be held for history....So I'm pretty much a believer; not many of the names and actions seemed out of the question from the 70s onward....

flyingtiger June 26th, 2018 03:15 PM

I am not surprised by most of this. We always presumed that Hef scored with a few PMs. I feel a few of the celebs know they were being filmed and wanted it. The only thing that shocked me was that there was a file on Chris evert. I wonder what was in that. I would love to see the Jane Fonda tape.

beechray June 26th, 2018 05:08 PM

Hope it's true...would love to see Cheryl Ladd get banged...

Boomer June 27th, 2018 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flyingtiger (Post 4475045)
I am not surprised by most of this. We always presumed that Hef scored with a few PMs. I feel a few of the celebs know they were being filmed and wanted it. The only thing that shocked me was that there was a file on Chris evert. I wonder what was in that. I would love to see the Jane Fonda tape.

Yes, the Jane tape would be my #1 as well, especially since there are a LOT of reliable sources saying she had no problem with taking a 'dip in the lady pool' now and then...

jesegr June 29th, 2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 4475531)
Yes, the Jane tape would be my #1 as well, especially since there are a LOT of reliable sources saying she had no problem with taking a 'dip in the lady pool' now and then...

There's was supposedly a tape that existed of Jane fucking Ted Turner in the ass with a strap on while he fucked another woman.

Boomer June 30th, 2018 03:58 AM

I can't say that sounds like a pretty picture...

ShutUpLutz! October 10th, 2018 11:00 PM

Well...I think the huge vault thing is bullshit. That would have come out in the news after Hef died and nope, not word one. Hef was known a big scrapbooker/archiver, and since he published the most famous "nudie magazine" in history it seems reasonable that he would have a collection of nude pics/movies. And it is true that there were some wild parties and wild nights and days at the Playboy Mansion in the 1970's on through the Girls Next Door period, but I believe this is a case of some nude pics of celebs like Dolly Parton who is known to have an open marriage being expanded and conflated into what was posted in the OP.

peach64 October 11th, 2018 12:25 AM

I disagree with most of you guys on this thread. After learning about Stanley Kubrick's work, the blood oaths, and indoctrination of the bands from the British Invasion coutesy of Tavistock Institute, and the scenne of Laurel Canyon, California all those bands had ties to the military industrial complex. They power brokers of Hollywood blackmail everybody. You want to be a star, you literally have drink piss and eat shit like Hitler did. Now there are stories about Hugh Hefner being into homosexual porn? He supposedly had these kind of videos playing while he had sex.

And now the stories of tunnels leading to the grotto at the mansion are true. Kirk Douglass, James Caan, and Jack Nicholson all had tunnels from their mansions leading to Hef's mansion. There are unsubstantiated rumors of blood sacrifices taking place there too. This is a wicked, evil fuckin world. And Stanley exposed that in Eyes Wide Shut.

I know for a fact that a former playmate from Louisiana had pure french blue blood lines unbeknownst to her. She eventually met and had an affair with a european man with similar bloodlines to another family she later found out. Her son was abducted in a court of law which eventually turned out to be a mock trial in California. When she filed for a motion all those accusers and so called witnesses vanished into thin air...this is how powerful these satanic families are.

Everything that guy said is true. Hollywood is 100% satanic. All scumbags who have no problem sacrificing children to drink their blood for andrenochrome. Look no further than Johnny Depp. I used to love this guy too. The Dark Web has tons of this shit too.

Btw, these actors who get tatted up is a sign that they get down for gravy...rappers term for being homosexual. All the rappers are into this. Hollywood has always had a dark side but now it is becoming more and more out in the open. And they have been shoving Transgenders down our throats for decades... " I Vant To Be Alone" is one of the very first on recorded film, but dates back thousands of years to the Greeks, all parts were played by men.

Gordon3 October 11th, 2018 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jesegr (Post 4478060)
There's was supposedly a tape that existed of Jane fucking Ted Turner in the ass with a strap on while he fucked another woman.


This is probably the only plausible scenario described on this thread. :rolleyes:

jaydogbones October 11th, 2018 05:34 AM

I find this plausible for the fact that Larry Flynnt paid a small fortune to a former Playboy worker who had stole photos of Hefner in action with various women and some Playmates.
He released some of them in at least one issue of Hustler.

beechray October 11th, 2018 06:12 AM

The following text is from a September 2017 article in the NY Post titled: "Hefner’s former valet reflects on ‘Pig Nights’ with hookers and Hef":

From 1978 through 1979, Stefan Tetenbaum worked as Hugh Hefner’s valet, doing everything from restocking the Playboy founder’s fridge with necessities like perfectly chilled Pepsi to cleaning sex toys after Hefner’s infamous “Pig Nights,” when the robe-clad Hef would call in prostitutes for his friends. Tetenbaum, now 67 and a sculptor living in Redondo Beach, Calif., shares his stories with The Post.

My job as Mr. Hefner’s valet was to take care of him in a very personal way. I prepared his “sick menu” — Pepsi, Campbell’s chicken noodle soup and M&Ms — whenever he felt ill, which was often because he was a hypochondriac. I also made sure the maids took all the sex toys down to the basement after use and washed and sterilized them before returning the gadgets to the secret compartment above his bed.

On certain nights, Mr. Hefner had prostitutes brought up to the mansion and he would entertain them with a big dinner and invite his friends to come and participate in different intimate acts with them. It was called “Pig Night.” Sometimes the women had penises and Hefner didn’t want to be involved with that, although some of the other guests, especially John Belushi, they didn’t mind.

Hugh, most of the time, never had sex with women. He was more interested in watching. He would hire famous male porn stars, including John Holmes, with huge penises and watch them have sex with different girls he brought in. Hugh sat there in his favorite chair, smoking a joint and eating red licorice and watching. I had to go into the room afterwards and if the girls couldn’t walk, I would have to escort them to the bedrooms so they could recuperate. Hef sometimes gave bonuses to the women because the sex acts were so painful.

He always filmed the encounters. He had two large video cameras over his bed and he had these giant screens across from his bed. He had a whole library for these sex acts with different people and the video librarian told me Hef planned to use the footage against his associates if they ever threatened to come out with a memoir about him or the mansion.

For many people, the Playboy mansion was a safe haven from the paparazzi and private detectives. A married comedian came for years, bringing different girls to have sex with. I had to take many food trays into the room where he was with these girls.

There was always cocaine around, though Mr. Hefner didn’t partake, preferring weed (he would often have parties where he invited all the marijuana growers in California to the house).

The entire grounds were under surveillance. There were cameras everywhere and all the phones were bugged. The staff had to be very careful and the men weren’t allowed to speak to any of Hef’s girls or socialize with them. But if one of Hef’s bunnies was out by the swimming pool and requested a lobster or cheeseburger, you’d deliver it to her and put the tray between her legs and while she oiled her legs, you’d see all sorts of toys that were attached to her vaginal area. The girls loved to tease me. You also weren’t supposed to be married if you worked for Hef. It was one of the rules, which somehow he ignored for me since my wife also worked at the mansion as a greeter during parties.

Hef wasn’t a kind man. If he tasted the Pepsi and it wasn’t cold enough, he would throw it away and call me to replace it. I don’t know if he ever even knew my name. He would just call me “valet.” He was very brutal to his girlfriends and sex partners. He made sure they had breast implants. In those days, the implants were new and they would shift and burst and I witnessed many women who had this done begging and crying to Hef to help them and he would put them back in the hospital and then discard these women. He didn’t care. They were disposable.

I really didn’t feel anything when I heard Hef died. He started out as an innovator and was a very liberal guy. He was pro abortion, gay rights, marijuana. He was very ahead of his time and then when he moved from Chicago to Holmby Hills, he became just another dirty old rich man.

Boomer October 11th, 2018 07:29 AM

Hef's Stories
 
I know nothing first hand about anything this fellow, who seems to have worked for Hef for a very short time many years ago, is saying, except that as a fan of his for many years, this goes against just about everything I have read over the last decades, so I would say there is reason to doubt a great deal of what he said...

Barry Shitpeas October 12th, 2018 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by peach64 (Post 4590089)
I disagree with most of you guys on this thread. After learning about Stanley Kubrick's work, the blood oaths, and indoctrination of the bands from the British Invasion coutesy of Tavistock Institute, and the scenne of Laurel Canyon, California all those bands had ties to the military industrial complex. They power brokers of Hollywood blackmail everybody. You want to be a star, you literally have drink piss and eat shit like Hitler did. Now there are stories about Hugh Hefner being into homosexual porn? He supposedly had these kind of videos playing while he had sex.

And now the stories of tunnels leading to the grotto at the mansion are true. Kirk Douglass, James Caan, and Jack Nicholson all had tunnels from their mansions leading to Hef's mansion. There are unsubstantiated rumors of blood sacrifices taking place there too. This is a wicked, evil fuckin world. And Stanley exposed that in Eyes Wide Shut.

I know for a fact that a former playmate from Louisiana had pure french blue blood lines unbeknownst to her. She eventually met and had an affair with a european man with similar bloodlines to another family she later found out. Her son was abducted in a court of law which eventually turned out to be a mock trial in California. When she filed for a motion all those accusers and so called witnesses vanished into thin air...this is how powerful these satanic families are.

Everything that guy said is true. Hollywood is 100% satanic. All scumbags who have no problem sacrificing children to drink their blood for andrenochrome. Look no further than Johnny Depp. I used to love this guy too. The Dark Web has tons of this shit too.

Btw, these actors who get tatted up is a sign that they get down for gravy...rappers term for being homosexual. All the rappers are into this. Hollywood has always had a dark side but now it is becoming more and more out in the open. And they have been shoving Transgenders down our throats for decades... " I Vant To Be Alone" is one of the very first on recorded film, but dates back thousands of years to the Greeks, all parts were played by men.

Nope. This is gibberish.

Wendigo October 12th, 2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas (Post 4591307)
Nope. This is gibberish.



It is a discussion thread though and to be honest these threads have been largely created so that members did not post often drivel inane in content threads.
If we disagree with anyone the best thing is to totally ignore it

jaydogbones October 13th, 2018 07:51 AM

I think if you live long enough some of these pics and videos will become public, the trick is you have to outlive the performers of said pics and videos.

angler12 October 13th, 2018 08:24 AM

I think the concept of a "vault" is quite plausible but I still have a nagging doubt about the veracity of the original post on this subject.

I'm not saying the post is a lie, but it is written in such a way that strikes me that the author is not a professional person and is somewhat lacking in writing skills.

I could be wrong and mean no offence to the author.

jaydogbones October 13th, 2018 05:40 PM

I remember reading a story of Jim Morrison/The Doors, that they had been invited to a local L.A. Nightclub owner's party and while there, the owner showed them his extensive porn collection featuring old Celebrities from the 30's-50's doing every conceivable type of porn.
Now my point: Hefner being a dyed in the wool collecting fanatic could just as easily have acquired these same pornographic images and probably did.
Not to mention that Hef was a huge video nut recording (secretly) everything that was going on at the mansion. Pretty sure PB has an extensive porn collection of Bill Cosby in action ;)

I think people are getting hung up on the plausibility of the "Hi-Tech Vault" and not seeing the big picture and forgetting that we're talking a Billionaire who not only rubbed shoulders (/Genitals) with the famous but was a perverted Voyeur with an unhealthy appetite for collecting. It's also a good reminder that urban myths are based on some truth. IMO

brk549 October 14th, 2018 02:23 PM

It's also possible that some high up politicians would have access to that collection in order to keep their flock singing their tune and probably does.

ShutUpLutz! October 14th, 2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydogbones (Post 4593101)
I remember reading a story of Jim Morrison/The Doors, that they had been invited to a local L.A. Nightclub owner's party and while there, the owner showed them his extensive porn collection featuring old Celebrities from the 30's-50's doing every conceivable type of porn.
Now my point: Hefner being a dyed in the wool collecting fanatic could just as easily have acquired these same pornographic images and probably did.
Not to mention that Hef was a huge video nut recording (secretly) everything that was going on at the mansion. Pretty sure PB has an extensive porn collection of Bill Cosby in action ;)

I think people are getting hung up on the plausibility of the "Hi-Tech Vault" and not seeing the big picture and forgetting that we're talking a Billionaire who not only rubbed shoulders (/Genitals) with the famous but was a perverted Voyeur with an unhealthy appetite for collecting. It's also a good reminder that urban myths are based on some truth. IMO

Thing is, in order for this to be true, the huge collection of all the celebrities fucking and sucking, EVERY one of them has to arrange for someone to photograph them fucking and sucking and they have to be exhibitionists. Which I will grant you, actors are to a certain extent, but ALL of them?

Please.

And if you're gonna turn around and say, "Oh yeah, well what about all the celebrity sex tapes and nude pics that have come out in the past 20+ years and all the female celebrities who have posed in Playboy, what about them smart guy?"

First off, many of those sex tapes involve dudes in metal bands from the 80's who were drowning in pussy so that's not surprising, But more importantly, the celebs who appear nude due so because they are getting paid. that sure as hell wasn't the case back in the 1930's.

brk549 October 14th, 2018 04:22 PM

Hidden cameras.You'd hope some of them would be smart enough to not agree to being filmed.

ShutUpLutz! October 15th, 2018 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brk549 (Post 4594247)
Hidden cameras.You'd hope some of them would be smart enough to not agree to being filmed.

In the 1930's? Get out of here.:rolleyes:

brk549 October 15th, 2018 02:08 AM

Bill Cosby was just out of diapers in the 30's.He didn't start the magazine till the 50's.

jaydogbones October 15th, 2018 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ShutUpLutz! (Post 4594647)
In the 1930's? Get out of here.:rolleyes:

The standard 8 mm (also known as regular 8) film format was developed by the Eastman Kodak company during the Great Depression and released to the market in 1932 to create a home movie format that was less expensive than 16 mm.

Tons of Film stars and other rich folk had these cameras back in the thirties filming their home movies. In fact this was the start of the Home movies movement that our Grandparents/Parents made mainstream in the 1950's-60's-1970's.

Now it is a proven fact that Errol Flynn had secret walkways in his Hollywood mansion to spy on all the fucking during his parties so I don't think it would be a stretch to imagine him getting out his little trusty 8mm camera and start recording some future stars fucking and it would be even less of a stretch to think a Hefner-like of collector couldn't get his hands on these.If not from the original source than from a film processor who undoubtedly made a copy for himself?

brk549 October 15th, 2018 03:22 PM

The famous people of the 30's were all has been's by the time Hef came along anyway.The films that would have had any leverage would have been the recent ones he could have made in the mansion.It's usually hard to positively identify anyone in a lot of those old films anyway.

jaydogbones October 20th, 2018 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by brk549 (Post 4595318)
The famous people of the 30's were all has been's by the time Hef came along anyway.The films that would have had any leverage would have been the recent ones he could have made in the mansion.It's usually hard to positively identify anyone in a lot of those old films anyway.

Obviously not a fan of TCM.

brk549 October 21st, 2018 01:14 AM

How many old sex films have you ever seen that you could really recognize anyone in,the Marilyn Monroe being one of them.

peach64 October 21st, 2018 03:15 AM

I'm sure there is way more to Hugh Hefner than any of us will know. I do know this much Hitler came to power from the people who pushed him behind the scenes. And if you look at liquor and wine business in America, during prohibition it was the "mafia" who were the so called kingpins running the empire, but if you want to know the truth it was primarily the Jews who were in control and still are today with major distributorships across America. I'll take an educated guess that Hefner was educated and connected to the Jesuits of Rome. I know he was Catholic. When it comes to being openly or unknowingly photographed or filmed ...who has been the root of this for thousands of years with limitless power to control governments and social engineering but Rome. The bunny symbol has esoteric meaning of the mystery religions and Playboy has the numerical value of 33 ...these are not coincidences. Hef kicked in the sexual revolution, now the batton has been handed to the LBGT movement with pedofilia, incest and beastiality to follow. I grew up on Playboy in the 70's, now I'm 54 and I don't like what I see with humanity. Life imitates porn now, it's disgusting. Most women from middle age to teens are a mess these days. Again this goes back to social engineering, now it's gender neutral ??? Masculine men who are attracted to beautiful feminine women are being phased out of society...another chapter of a sick world.
I wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hefner was gay. What is black is white, and up is down

jaydogbones October 21st, 2018 04:17 AM

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Banpan October 21st, 2018 04:55 AM

I still believe the story in the o.m. is a fake, but I do believe the premises is true.

We have all heard the rumors and stories about Hollywood, and how the rich and the famous having secret sex-parties and gang bangs, and how some very powerful people using that power to force especially young and beautiful women to sex - which is quite believable, the last couple of years scandals taken in mind.

I also think we haven't even scratched the surface yet, about what's really going on in HW, and maybe we'll never know the truth, because there's still some very powerful people in charge, and they'll do almost everything to cover up and suppress those rumors and stories.

There were an either Dutch or Norwegian documentary about fifteen or twenty years ago - I think it was called "Hollywood's Dark Side" or something similar, and it painted a quite disturbing picture about drugs, prostitution, rape and even molestation of children, and then of course the "usual" stuff about huge secret sex-parties and gang bangs, where everybody fucked everybody.

It was a small film crew that went undercover in HW, and got in contact with a couple of guys you could call the undercover "runners" for the famous and rich. The two guys didn't know each other, but could tell very similar stories, about how they provided for their clients every need and desire - getting them the best drugs, the best call girls etc. etc.

They also told the undercover crew, that some "runners" also provided teens and preteens, both girls and boys, to their clients "special" desires! They picked them up on streets, mostly homeless kids or runaways, or train-stations and bus stops, promised them fame and fortune, but instead they ended up getting molested by scumbags! They both swore by their mothers grave, that they didn't do these kind of things - no siree bob, not them!

I don't remember all, but they also told that if the public knew what was going on, and the stars they thought were pure and innocent angles, was in fact nymphomaniacs and horn dogs, they would probably not believe it or go into shock.

I've been looking for the documentary for many years, but haven't been able to find it anywhere, so if someone know where I can find it, I would be happy to know. :)

Boomer October 21st, 2018 05:30 AM

Hefner and his family were not Catholic, they were died in the wool Midwest Methodists. He always mentioned that strict upbringing as part of his desire to later rebel against society norms...And by his own admission, he and his then wife Milly and friends used to have 'secret parties' to watch their collections of 'Blue Movies', as they were called back in the 50s...We can only imagine what else may have gone on at these parties back in the day...His first wife, btw, was very attractive in her youth...

peach64 October 21st, 2018 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jaydogbones (Post 4593101)
I remember reading a story of Jim Morrison/The Doors, that they had been invited to a local L.A. Nightclub owner's party and while there, the owner showed them his extensive porn collection featuring old Celebrities from the 30's-50's doing every conceivable type of porn.
Now my point: Hefner being a dyed in the wool collecting fanatic could just as easily have acquired these same pornographic images and probably did.
Not to mention that Hef was a huge video nut recording (secretly) everything that was going on at the mansion. Pretty sure PB has an extensive porn collection of Bill Cosby in action ;)

I think people are getting hung up on the plausibility of the "Hi-Tech Vault" and not seeing the big picture and forgetting that we're talking a Billionaire who not only rubbed shoulders (/Genitals) with the famous but was a perverted Voyeur with an unhealthy appetite for collecting. It's also a good reminder that urban myths are based on some truth. IMO

Y'know Jim's dad was Admiral George Morrison, he oversaw the Gulf Of Tonkin debacle of the USS Maddox...every major musical act from the Laurel Canyon in the 60's was tied to the Military Industrial Complex.. and the British Invasion came from Tavistock Institute...Hefner was an icon because he was meant to be from his task masters. Nothing is what seems

Boomer October 21st, 2018 06:11 AM

So why did 'they' choose a newlywed $35/wk copywriter for 'Children's Activities' magazine in a tiny apartment in Chicago to do all of this? Sounds like he was some sort of secret James Bond??

brk549 October 21st, 2018 02:44 PM

I'm certain Hef and PB had a lot of influence over a lot of people.Whether he was willing to use it to the extent we're seeing it used by others this day and time we'll probably never know but if the powerful had any power or pull over him he would have been forced to.No matter how powerful you may be there will always be someone that knows something on you.

pharoahegypt October 21st, 2018 07:11 PM

I'm of a mind that if these stories are true, then they came about by way of Hef providing sexually needy celebs with a private place to indulge in drugs and sex, while insisting their secrets would never be known or shared; but at the same time making sure to film them secretly or openly to make sure he had power over them. Some were likely so drugged up they didn't realise they were being filmed, or just didn't care in the heat of the moment. For sure a man like Hef would then have kept the films & pix to use as leverage if need be to keep his empire going, or use their influence to keep the usual authorites off his back at other needy times.

Even if any of these pix/vids do exist, we're never likely going to see them; unless someone purchased them off of him as he was dying, and are lying low until the time is right. As someone else hinted at, when enough of the guilty parties have passed on & are unable to sue or cause any outrage over their publication or sharing...


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