Remakes !

[MaxJoker]

I remember cringing when i first heard about them remaking Superman , and rightly so as despite a few snazzy effects it was a complete damp squib totally failing to mirror the entertaining magic or acting chemistry of the original . Felt the same when Zombie`s updated Halloween came into being , never more so as nobody much listened to me and so Mr Myers turned into a weak caricature of it`s mighty predecessor .Why did they even try in the first place ?, what are there no new original script ideas anymore ? :(

Well that`s impossible of course ,as i’ve written three in the last two years. Yet still the easy safe option of the remake (Or that other risky option the sequel ) has become the mainstay of the mainstream . Alright some remakes sound quite good and were great. Like Invasion of the body snatches (The one with Donald Sutherland ) for instance :cool:

I`m even hopeful of the proposed Judge Dredd one . As lets be honest the original was such a turkey i`m surprised they didn`t include a packet of sage and onion with each DVD. But now the latest news i hear is a remake of Straw Dogs ! , what are they kidding . How can you remake that classic ?, never more since it was of it`s time . What are they going to change the tale so it`s about a young couple who move to a Muslim community and end up getting terrorized after inadvertently insulting them by roasting a pig in their back garden ?.

Madness , i mean the next thing you know they`ll be talking about remaking that iconic masterpiece The Wickerman :eek:


Moving on then :rolleyes:

See this thread is about the remakes you think should never have happened , and the remakes you wish they`d hurry up and do . Also the ones you liked or didn`t or , well you know ;)

By the by don`t just throw in some titles with no explanation as to why you`ve done so as that`s kinda lazy (And lazy don`t cut it) , plus this is a discussion thread after all :D

[dohupa]

It depends on the talent of the filmmaker really. Martin Scorsese's version of Cape Fear was a lot better than the original mind you.

Nick Nolte wasn't so innocent (remember the tension scenes with Jessica lange?) and that added to the depth of the character.

That said, I would love Alfred Hitchcock being around and re-do Malice. Remember that great but under-estimated movie of the 90s?

[Estreeter]

I'm often very critical of remakes, even too the point where I will just refuse too watch the remake, I do cave in and make exception from time too time.

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"Cape Fear" is one of them simply for the fact that Robert Mitchum and Gregory Peck starred in the original had roles in the remake which starred Robert DeNiro, now thats a cast you cannot go wrong with. Very enjoyable.

[Greenman]

Well I read that Battlestar Gallactica is to be remade, but hang on first there was a film, that begat the series, which begat a sequel or next generation type series and now a film-talk about going full circle! And not forgetting the James Bond remake of that 60's shambles Casino Royale which thankfully was ten times better than the origina, The Taking of Pelham 123 remade this year and the St Trinians films although that is a little more up-to-date than a total remake. What next I wonder?

[Giacson]

Madness , i mean the next thing you know they`ll be talking about remaking that iconic masterpiece The Wickerman :eek:

I dont really know if that was sarcasm or you missed this smelly wet dog featuring Nick Cage in the leading role.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450345/

I was disapointed in the remake of "Man Hunter". "Red Dragon" just didnt have the same punch as the original, though I do like most of Ed Norton's work. It was only a tool to promote the upcoming "Hannibal" at the time. In the original, they actualy managed to create a moment of sympathy for the greatly disturbed villain Dollarhyde that I prefered over the childhood history in the second. Tom Noonan and Joan Allen were much better played then Ralph Fiennes and Emily Watson

[MaxJoker]

I dont really know if that was sarcasm or you missed this smelly wet dog featuring Nick Cage in the leading role.


Obviously spoken (Ok written) by a fellow member not familiar with my work :D

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As in i didn`t miss it , i practically ran from it. Bad enough they did a remake anyway but why have that failed Elvis impersonator in the lead role :confused:

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Trying to think of the most recent decent remake i`ve seen lately and that would have to be the 3:10 to Yuma , surprisingly good in fact.

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[avidfan]

the remake of the italian job and get carter :eek::eek::eek:

you couldnt remake any of the early rocky films, nor the rocky horror picture show, alien, blade, my fair lady, any dirty harry film, terminator, its a wonderful life, porridge, steptoe and son...

[spectacles]

The biggest travesty of them all
The Thomas Crown Affair
I dont care if Renne Russo got her Thrupennys out- Outstanding as they were
The whole thing was never going to be anywhere near as brilliant as the original
Cast, Music, the way it was shot and McQueen playing a sophisticated but ruthless business man. What on earth made Brosnan think he could do the role justice.
In the end you could have given the remake any title you liked. It was an average crime caper and not a patch on the original
BTW- When Faye Dunaway did that thing with her lips and the Bishop Chess piece- another one of those moments when you knew youd never be gay:eek:
Rant over but I swear to God if they ever try and remake
"Twleve O'Clock High" I will burn the studio down

[John C. Holmes]

Ego has a LOT to do with remakes getting made. Platinum Dunes productions being the most infamous perpetrator. They did a horrible prequel to Texas Chainsaw Massacre and literally BUTCHERED Friday the 13th, (after years of claiming how much they loved the franchise and promises that they would do it justice,) and now they're going after Nightmare on Elm Street and the Hitchcock classic The Birds.

Let's see, EVERYTHING they have made to date looks like it was made with a bad handheld camcorder with no steadyhand feature. (They are obsessed with the documentary style of the 70's even if the movies they make don't call for it.) Now they want to give Nightmare and HITCHCOCK the same treatment? Looks like ego winning out over common sense AND talent here.

[squigg58]

In no particular order ...
Planet of the Apes
The Producers
King Kong (pick any one!)
Godzilla
The Hitcher

Why don't they remake a film that SHOULD have been good but actually sucked ... like Dune?

[videodrome]

Re-makes of movies often draw peoples attention to the original, and the re-makes popularity fades within 6 months to a year. So it is not really a bad thing, but it would be nice if they did a good job for a change. I felt the remake of Amityville and The Shinning were somewhat decent, Originals are a lot better of course, but for someone that has never seen the original they would probably like it.

I myself have found out a few times that the movie I loved was in-fact a remake of a movie from the 40s or 50s. Did it change my opinion about the movie? Mostly no.

[Estreeter]

Re-makes of movies often draw peoples attention to the original
True, like "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels"
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I didn't even know it was a remake until I stumbled upon "Bedtime Story" which stars Marlon Brando, David Niven and Shirley Jones.
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Loved both films:cool:
And who could forget Ruprecht:D
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[MaxJoker]

The Fly remake was another great one , probably because unlike most this became a proper re-imagining of the original tale. Because as much as i like the 50`s film the new one really did it for me, i was even rooting for the fly at the end for gods sake . But then he only wanted to be a proper close knit family unit , what was so wrong with that :D

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Another great remake was The Thing , mind you i say that having seen the remake but not the original. Weird to know it was a financial flop as it`s now pretty well universally recognised as a brilliant roller coaster horror / sci fi blend , pretty damn funny in parts to.
Although maybe i`m oddly unique in finding a man getting his hands bitten off , and a spider headed half alien amusing. Talking about the effects how good were they , how about so good that most of them even hold their own today. Yet it failed to score at all let alone big. Still i guess with some films timing plays a big a part as the actual quality, also helps if the studio that produced it fully backs it with a decent and understandable advertising campaign :(


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[RyderKnightley]

I'd love to see a re-make of The War of the Worlds, based of the book rather than gung ho shit. The 50's version should never have been given the title. The only resemblance to the novel was an invasion from Mars. Never watched the re-make on principle. The novel by H.G. Wells was one of the best books I have ever read. I was almost believing that the invasion actually happened in Victorian times. What an author.

[MaxJoker]

It depends on the talent of the filmmaker really. Martin Scorsese's version of Cape Fear was a lot better than the original mind you.

Nick Nolte wasn't so innocent (remember the tension scenes with Jessica lange?) and that added to the depth of the character.

That said, I would love Alfred Hitchcock being around and re-do Malice. Remember that great but under-estimated movie of the 90s?

Have to disagree with you there (Which be cool and what discussion is all about ) as i found the original more sinister than the remake overall , also the pairing of Mitchum and Peck was i thought superior to DeNero and Nolte also i felt more believable as well. I mean didn`t anybody else feel DeNero hammed his role up to the hilt ?, and god couldn`t he at least have toned down his trade make squints for the part of Cady ?. Anyway for me at least i preferred the first setting , because what`s better to watch than a nice calm tranquil family pool of happiness suddenly get a dirty big rock thrown into the middle of it ?. The re-makes central family was much too fractured to begin with for me (Wouldn`t have cared who lived or died by the end ), and sure i worked out the subtext that this particular dirty stone didn`t so much as cause massive ripples as bring the family back together but still :rolleyes:

Oh and i remember Malice , Kidman never looked better . Baldwin stole the scenes he was in , plus a blind kid saw it all ;)

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[MrKinkade]

They should have never remaked Hardcore dir Paul Schrader starring George C Scott and Peter Boyle
an introspective look at the 70's burgeoning HC skin flicks with some black humor thrown in as well.
The remake with Nick Cage was total garbage in comparison. Get Carter with Sylvester Stallone the less said the better!
They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.

[MaxJoker]

They should have never remaked Hardcore dir Paul Schrader starring George C Scott and Peter Boyle
an introspective look at the 70's burgeoning HC skin flicks with some black humor thrown in as well.
The remake with Nick Cage was total garbage in comparison. Get Carter with Sylvester Stallone the less said the better!
They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.


They remade Hardcore and Nick ( Hair line drawing back in horror at the face ) Cage starred in it :confused: .Trying to think what i`ve seen him in that`s been similar . Do you mean that film 8mm :confused: Was that a remake of Hardcore ?, no couldn`t have been surely. It was as different to Hardcore as the proverbial chalk and cheese. Hell if it was a remake though then that has to be as bad as they get :(

As for a possible re-doing of Soylent Green well i`d be against it , sure i know they could crank up the climate change angle and conglomeration control aspect. But let`s be honest it`s been done already it other films, and even in a few documentary ones. Also which lead actors could they gather together that`d hold a candle to the Charlton Heston , Edward G. Robinson and Leight Taylor- Young triple whammy ?

[avidfan]

They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.

when i watch films i like to escape from real life...;)

[NelsonsGoodeye]

I didn't know untill ages after I first saw the 1939 classic, with Charles Laughton, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxWoOQt7dLw that this film was in fact a remake of the 1923 silent movie, starring Lon Chaney, (which I haven't seen).
There have been any number of "re-tellings" of the tale since then, but no-one comes close to Charles Laughtons performance!

[MrKinkade]

Posted by GrenSkull
Do you mean that film 8mm Was that a remake of Hardcore ?
Not a direct lift but it's pretty clear where they got the inspiration, Storyline:hired detectives tracking down girls that end up in the seedy world of HC/snuff movies ;)

[anklebiter]

I wish they hadn't remade Willy Wonka. The new version is B.A.D.

Dunno if it qualifies as a "Remake", but I loved George Lucas going back and touching up Star Wars.Tweaked here, something added there....It regenerated interest, and modernized one of the best Sci-Fi movies of all time.

I'd like to see a remake of Sands of IwoJima, modernized and gritty like Private Ryan.

[dohupa]

Have to disagree with you there (Which be cool and what discussion is all about ) as i found the original more sinister than the remake overall , also the pairing of Mitchum and Peck was i thought superior to DeNero and Nolte also i felt more believable as well.
You must be the 1st that I know of who liked the original better - well maybe along with the lot than thanked you here also. :p

I ain't kidding; :D anyway, Marty I think would be ideal having a go at The Night of the Hunter (1955) - a true classic.

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I'm surprised he hasn't considered it yet a lover of the world cinema he is. :cool:

[RyderKnightley]

I ain't kidding; :D anyway, Marty I think would be ideal having a go at The Night of the Hunter (1955) - a true classic.



No, leave The Night of the Hunter exactly as it is. What made the film a classic was its unusuality, looking totally different from anything else around.

[rad2927]

Night of the Hunter was remade with Richard Chamberlain and it showed again remakes are generaly a waste of time. I do agree that Cape Fear was an exeption but I have a hard time picking which version I like better. Maybe if they had switched the casting-if Nolte and Deniro had gone against type.

[edward126]

Evening all :)

I would like to nominate a film that is not only a remake but also spawned a sequel, namely Steve Martin as Clouseau in The Pink Panther (2006) & The Pink Panther 2 (2009). I really like Steve Martin especially in The Jerk and The Man With Two Brains and i sat down to watch this with an open mind, to see if Steve could pull it off. My opinion, he failed, my mind wasn't open for long. What was he thinking? Comics should never steal other comics work. It will never work when the subject is the iconic Inspector Clouseau. There can only be one actor to play this role and that is Peter Sellers.

If you have only ever watched the recent Pink Panther films with Steve Martin as the bumbling Clouseau, then i hope that you enjoyed them, but i beg of you to watch the originals and see how it should be done. I have a confession to make. I only watched about 15mins of the 1st film and have not seen the 2nd at all. So i might be wrong and Steve Martin may have been brilliant but the little that i did see i found to be slightly, dare i say it "blasphemous".

[zuckerman]

In my more misanthropic moments, I want the world to have a remake of Casablanca with Megan Fux and Shit Leboeuf directed by Michael Bay's crasser brother. Jack Black can be Captain Renault.

[imtrying]

Regarding the "Pink Panther" post: edward126, I couldn't agree with you more. However, my best friend's sons (13 and 10) think the Steve Martin versions are the funniest things out there. Another thing, they went to see the Steve Carrell version of "Get Smart" and they loved it. Then I showed them a couple of episodes of the original show on DVD and they looked at me like I was nuts for claiming that the show was better than the movie. I weep for today's youth.

[John C. Holmes]

Well you are talking about the generation that made the producers of JACKASS millionaires so consider the source...

[hansvon]

They are remaking Enter The Dragon :eek: !!!

I read its going to be more of a James Bond type action spy film then a straight up marital arts film like the original ...


I Really Miss Bruce Lee :( !!!

[MaxJoker]

Night of the Hunter was remade with Richard Chamberlain and it showed again remakes are generaly a waste of time. I do agree that Cape Fear was an exeption but I have a hard time picking which version I like better. Maybe if they had switched the casting-if Nolte and Deniro had gone against type.

Great contributions fellow members, already i`ve learned about remakes i didn`t realise had happened. Had no idea they`d done one of night of the hunter and with Dickie Chamberlain no less :eek: , will certainly have to look that one up and take a gander if for nothing else than to see if it came with a laughter track attached.
By the way excellent idea of the old switch a rooo role reversals regarding Nolte and Deniro , think you should consider a side job as a casting agent.
Never even occurred to me ,but it would have cranked up the tale no end. I mean Nolte can play underlined menace with the best of them , which if anybody has seen Q&A would surely testify to. Plus they`d have been the added benefit of Deniro HAVING to tone down his performance , damn i sense a totally missed opportunity to create a classic :(

Hmmmm wonder if it`s too late to remake the remake :rolleyes:

They are remaking Enter The Dragon :eek: !!!
I read its going to be more of a James Bond type action spy film then a straight up marital arts film like the original ...

Talk about a remake nobody needs , what are they going to draft in Jackie Chan for this one or surprise us all with Jet Lee . Well nowadays it`s either one of the other, hah sometimes both. That said if they decided to break with tradition and give the lead to Zhang Ziyi (http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?t=25803&highlight=Zhang+Ziyi) then who are we to complain :D

I Really Miss Bruce Lee :( !!!

Second that , think true film fans always will miss the guy. Still from what i`ve seen of him through old interviews and such he wasn`t simply a world class martial artist but also a world class human being. A massive loss indeed :(

[RyderKnightley]

Talk about a remake nobody needs , what are they going to draft in Jackie Chan for this one or surprise us all with Jet Lee . Well nowadays it`s either one of the other, hah sometimes both. That said if they decided to break with tradition and give the lead to Zhang Ziyi (http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?t=25803&highlight=Zhang+Ziyi) then who are we to complain :D


Maybe they'll go completely against type and cast my favourite holder of the Miss Malaysia title, Michelle Yeoh.

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[scoundrel]

In my more misanthropic moments, I want the world to have a remake of Casablanca with Megan Fux and Shit Leboeuf directed by Michael Bay's crasser brother. Jack Black can be Captain Renault.:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Casablanca would be my vote for best movie ever made. zuckerman, be advised, scoundrel has your voodoo doll under construction...

[MaxJoker]

Maybe they'll go completely against type and cast my favourite holder of the Miss Malaysia title, Michelle Yeoh.

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Aaaaah Ryder me lad ,so it be a battle of who`s Oriental fist flying , leg cracking babe is best you be wantin`then is it oooo`aaaaaa :D


Well for me there is of course no other , and look she`s even wearing my colour :cool:

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Meant to be :rolleyes:

[MaxJoker]

Now then here`s a remake i have always disliked The Silence Of The Lambs , eventhough it`s been yelled about like some kind of genius work of art . Which is isn`t at all ,alright !. In fact it`s flawed in ways i haven`t even the time or energy to explain , but i shall highlight a glaring one !

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Because come on did nobody else think Anthony Hopkins take on Hannibal Lecter was anything other than embarrassing ?. Did anybody really feel the least bit nervous about him and his stumpy little teeth ?. Oh and please tell me someone out there thought the entire premise of him being held overnight at a hotel in a giant hall several floors up from about three hundred armed police officers , while he`s only guarded by a feeble minded laurel and hardy double act totally laughable ?. Yeah a double act who serve him supper as if he was royalty and as if they`ve been doing it countless times before , eventhough it was surely just that once ???. Then after the tiny weak Dr Lecter has easily dispatched them both he er , strings one up about thirty feet and carries the other to the lift erm and then puts that guys face on his own and , and sorry the tears the tears . Come on wasn`t that the least bit ridiculous to anyone other than me !

Anyway compare Tony`s tripe to the original actor who spot on portrayed Lecter , ie Brian Cox

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This man was on screen maybe ten minutes at most , yet conveys virtually every aspect of Lecters twisted genius and hidden fury in those subtle minutes . Think it`s a crime he was passed over for the remake , as he`d have surely won that Oscar and unlike Tone deservedly so :(

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Oh and if nobodies already guessed , i saw Manhunter first ;)

Plus i`m a fan of the underrated Brian Cox :D

[dohupa]

Maybe they'll go completely against type and cast my favourite holder of the Miss Malaysia title, Michelle Yeoh.

Was she the one in that great lyrical Chinese movie a couple of years back - crouching tiger something?

Great movie - although I never really figured out the flying and all that. Anyone know more to clue me in here?

Is it part of the martian arts tradition? The flying thing I mean... :rolleyes:

[imtrying]

Regarding a "Casablanca" re-make: Here in the States, years ago they tried making a TV show version of the film. Bogie's role was played by none other than David "Hutch" Soul. I'm not kidding. The show flopped.

[Mal Hombre]

The point is they'll never remake any film that needs to be remade,there must be hundreds if not thousands of movies that had a good basic idea but were let down by poor direction,misscasting ,bad acting or all three.These films will never be "re-imagined" studios will just carry on desecrating classics to make easy money.

[John C. Holmes]

Regarding a "Casablanca" re-make: Here in the States, years ago they tried making a TV show version of the film. Bogie's role was played by none other than David "Hutch" Soul. I'm not kidding. The show flopped.

Jennifer Lopez tried to buy the rights to the movie 6 years ago to make a Bennifer Casablanca! Thank Jesus that didn't happen.

[Greenman]

Is nothing sacred? I now read on Ceefax that Robert Zemekis is going to remake Yellow Submarine in 3D!! At the moment they are trying to get clearance for the 19 songs that appear in the film. I really don't think that a classic like that can be remade-but then what do I know about film-I hated the idea of a remake of The Italian Job but I have to say it was good-not as good as the original of course and nothing British about it apart from Jason Statham(Handsome Rob)

[RyderKnightley]

Great movie - although I never really figured out the flying and all that. Anyone know more to clue me in here?

Is it part the martian arts tradition? The flying thing I mean... :rolleyes:

No expert in the genre, but it has been a regular feature for a number of years.

[RyderKnightley]

Shouldn't there be an overseer of the cimema world whose job it is to bring directors back to reality. I have no doubt that when a director tackles a classic he fully believes that he will make a better job of it than the original director. The studios are quite happy to go ahead if they can see money at the end of it, whether or not it will damage the reputation of the original. This overseer would be an independant person who will protect the reputation of the classics. He will meet with the director and point out to him that to date he has made 4 TV movies based on real life (non)events and 2 teenage sex comedies, "now do you really think you can better Alfred Hitchcock in your remake of The Birds?"

[MaxJoker]

The point is they'll never remake any film that needs to be remade,there must be hundreds if not thousands of movies that had a good basic idea but were let down by poor direction,misscasting ,bad acting or all three.These films will never be "re-imagined" studios will just carry on desecrating classics to make easy money.

Well for me a film that needed it’s remake was The Hills Have Eye’s , because although i liked it the updated version brought many new aspects into play. For one thing the mutated characters actually looked mutated (And threatening ) in this .Not merely laughable failed hippies with joke teeth and bad wigs , or clothed in cheap fur skins (Berryman aside ). Also the film gave much back story as to why they looked that way and lived how they did . Cool shocks were thrown into the mix as well , something sorely missing in the pretty predictable first version .Plus it gave more emphasis to their cannibal diet (Always enjoyable viewing), and the fact those suckers have an awful lot of resentment towards normal’s.
Speaking of which the normal’s were all able performers to , not just axe fodder for the pot as in the original. Just a shame the sequel to this was such a drop kick in the nuts , but then the sequel to the original was a chainsaw up the bum so there you go.

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[imtrying]

I heard that "Chainsaw up the Bum" is the subtitle to the next "Saw" sequel.

[ILovePorn82]

im all for a Airwolf Remake. Also a Remake of Predator would be great, Soldiers getting hunted.

[maxblue]

Don't believe it's been mentioned yet: the utterly pointless shot-by-shot reamke of Psycho. Remaking a film is like covering a song - best if you change the rhythm or tempo or rearrange it some way that brings out a different movie (or song) from the original. Several years ago various Country and Western singers collaborated on a tribute album of Eagles songs: each artist picked a song and then reproduced it matching the original arrangements note-for-note. Why would you rather hear Travis Tritt sing 'Desperados?' When Joe Cocker covered a song, it was to find a whole new song in there - 'Little Help from My friends' or 'The Letter' are great examples.

A poster here remarked in an earlier enrty about a director reimagining the film he was remaking. That's what we're looking for.

So how about a reimagined remake of 'Ring of Bright Water.' My daughter (aged 27) has not yet recovered from the otter being smashed over the head with a shovel in what we had assumed was a Disney-style flic suitable for an 8-year-old (which she was at the time). We now call such 'Dead Otter Movies' - "Marley and Me' is the latest example.

[kananga]

While it will be a mystery to many why this film was made to begin with, some of us with our shiny new VCR's wanted to watch something so bad, that's it's good. (Same reason I listen to the Firesign Theatre). :)

"Killer Tomatoes" had no less than three sequels!!!, and according to Wikipedia... "A remake of the film is in the works from Kent Nichols and Douglas Sarine, creators of 'Ask A Ninja'. This will be Nichols' directorial debut.
M. Dal Walton III is co-producing along with Emmett/Furla Films"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Killer_Tomatoes

Which leaves a staggering question - Why?

[imtrying]

Probably because of the complete lack of original ideas in Hollywood. Also because a lot of people working in the business now came of age in the 70's (note all the crappy remakes of 70's movies/TV shows lately). Plus, with money being a bit tight these days, they figure if they remake something with name recognition, there's a better chance of them turning a profit. And lastly, special effects are light years better than they were 30-40 years ago. Maybe this time, with a halfway decent budget, the "Killer Tomatos" will be more than someone throwing tomatos from just out of camera range.

[doyle]

There are a number of films I'd like to see remade - but I experience anal puckering (I can show you the photos) at what I know they would do with the concept.
"Bell, Book and Candle" for example. A fun movie, Kim Novak is wonderfully spooky, Ernie Kovaks needs a bath, but you know damn well, the new, improved version would be some anti-male grapefruit to the face about female empowerment. Ugh.

[rad2927]

I just saw that there will be another Wizard of Oz take with Dakota Fanning. Hope they go way out like Tin Man. I don't think it was great but it was much better than I thought it would be.

[Mal Hombre]

I'd like to remake the end of The Dark Knight and both Hellboy movies.

[maxblue]

Rad - I'm with you. Tin Man wasn't wonderful, but it was consistently imaginative, earnestly acted and different. We do not need a remake of the W of O. Or Casablanca. Or North by Northwest. Or dozens of movies which weren't classics but were fine the way they were.

On a barely related topic - could anyone sit through the film version of Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe? Hated the opening, hated the Vogons, hated Marvin - got tired of hating it and left twenty minutes in. Pity the critics who had to watch it all.

[John C. Holmes]

Lloyd Kaufman, CEO of Troma said it best:

"What you have now is a bunch of baby boomers forcing their generation on their children because they are still the biggest segment of the population. As a result we have had two generations of shallow and materialistic youths reliving their parents' successes AND failures over and over again."

Truer words have never been spoken.

This is one of the reasons why I've had a lot of respect for Speilberg; He's one of the very few from his generation that hasn't rehashed his work all that often, (he never worked on Jaws again after the first one, ditto for Jurasic Park and the only franchise he worked on to completion was Indiana Jones.) Hitchcock also never made sequels, (or all that many anyway.)

This generation has 2 problems:

1. Incrediblly oversized egos: When you have slackers talking about how great their remakes of classics will be only to make excuses and promises of "UNRATED" DVD releases when they bomb HARD, you can tell that the current crop of writers and directors in Hollywood are untalented hacks with GIGANTIC egos. (Speilberg and Lucas have earned the right to have massive egos, Platinum Dunes, Kevin Smith and Eli Roth have NOT.)

2. We live in an era where Kim Kardashien gets more attention on the red carpet of the Oscars than ANY of the people nominated, (you know, the ones with TALENT?) Ditto for Paris and Perez Hilton. When this is the case, the lowest common denominator is the lowest of all time and Hollywood starts dumbing down their finest works. (See the House of Wax remake with the bitch with the mini dog herself. The bastards aught to be ashamed of themselves for bastardizing Vincent Price's finest work.)

The entertainment world paid for the Actors and Writers' strikes more than they could ever know now that the celebutantes rule the industry. Frankly I'd fire the lot of them and start over at this point because Hollywood is dead and has been dead for about a decade.

[rad2927]

Rad - I'm with you. Tin Man wasn't wonderful, but it was consistently imaginative, earnestly acted and different. We do not need a remake of the W of O. Or Casablanca. Or North by Northwest. Or dozens of movies which weren't classics but were fine the way they were.

On a barely related topic - could anyone sit through the film version of Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe? Hated the opening, hated the Vogons, hated Marvin - got tired of hating it and left twenty minutes in. Pity the critics who had to watch it all.
I have to agree but I was with someone who actually liked it so I had to stay for the whole mess-and I had high hopes for it so it was doubly painfull!

[squigg58]

Could we have "U-571" remade ... properly?

[scoundrel]

Could we have "U-571" remade ... properly?
The true story would make a damn good film. It could include the first commando raid by the newly formed British special forces on Svolvaer in Norway's Arctic Lofoten Islands, where code books and components from a damaged Enigma machine were captured by British and Free Norweigian soldiers and Professor Turing at Bletchley Park raised the alarm about how important Enigma was and why the Allies simply had to capture a working machine.

[tmee2000]

While we're at it, and seeing we're in Norway, we could do "Sink the Bismarck" properly too.

Anyone know how to build a full-scale replica of a 50,000 ton German battleship?

[maxblue]

Now, see. One man's trash is another's classic. Remake 'Sink the Bismarck?' I fell in love with Dana Wynter in that movie! Love a woman in uniform!

[tmee2000]

Now, see. One man's trash is another's classic. Remake 'Sink the Bismarck?' I fell in love with Dana Wynter in that movie! Love a woman in uniform!

Certainly nothing amiss with Dana. Interesting, she was born in Berlin. Birth name Dagmar Wynter...I think Kenneth Moore's intelligence work leaves a bit to be desired.
Nothing wrong with the model work either, for a young kid seeing it on release on the big screen it was totally convincing.

Dana had many movie roles, including "Lady Godiva Rides Again". (1951)

I think we should do something with that too.

[spunky1964]

Hey:

Very interesting thread.

Well, what would you think of a retelling story of the Corsican Brothers only as a comedy?

In 1970, Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin ( both of 'All in the Family' fame) did it with Gene Wilder and Donald Sutherland as the twins separated at birth in the hilarioius 'Start the Revolution Without Me.'

I guess Cheech and Chong rented it on video then decided to do pretty much the same movie in the dreadful 'Cheech and Chong's The Corsican Brothers' (except for the funnny parts).

I feel better now. BTW, anytime you have to put an author/director/performer in the title of anything, chances are it's going to be baddddd!

Thanks,

spunk

[squigg58]

The true story would make a damn good film. It could include the first commando raid by the newly formed British special forces on Svolvaer in Norway's Arctic Lofoten Islands, where code books and components from a damaged Enigma machine were captured by British and Free Norweigian soldiers and Professor Turing at Bletchley Park raised the alarm about how important Enigma was and why the Allies simply had to capture a working machine.

Spot on, Scoundrel. Why is that in the majority of cases, whenever a film is "based" on a true story, the REAL events are actually MORE interesting and exciting than the guff the scriptwriters come up with?

I made the mistake of watching a film called "Fly Boys" recently and it's supposedly based on the exploits of Frank Luke, an American pilot in The First World War. The film was garbage! The climax to the story had the hero taking off against orders as he wanted to go and rescue his French girlfriend. I then read about the REAL Frank Luke.

This is what Eddie Rickenbacker said of him: "He was the most daring aviator and greatest fighter pilot of the entire war. His life is one of the brightest glories of our Air Service. He went on a rampage and shot down fourteen enemy aircraft, including ten balloons, in eight days. No other ace, even the dreaded Richthofen, had ever come close to that."

"Inspired" by that, some brainless wonder decided to have him rescuing his girlfriend instead????

[scoundrel]

Spot on, Scoundrel. Why is that in the majority of cases, whenever a film is "based" on a true story, the REAL events are actually MORE interesting and exciting than the guff the scriptwriters come up with?

I made the mistake of watching a film called "Fly Boys" recently and it's supposedly based on the exploits of Frank Luke, an American pilot in The First World War. The film was garbage! The climax to the story had the hero taking off against orders as he wanted to go and rescue his French girlfriend. I then read about the REAL Frank Luke.


I read Edward V Rickenbacker's WW1 memoir, Fighting The Flying Circus many years ago: I don't remember everything by any means, but I do remember that Frank Luke was unique for his pioneering work on what modern airforces refer to nowadays as ground support: his attacks on German observation balloons were at great personal risk and in the end they cost him his life. These targets were bristling with heavy machine gun nests on the ground waiting to defend them against Frank Luke: the Germans knew all about him. But American forces were on the offensive in the summer of 1918 and the balloons were compromising tactical surprise and costing many Doughboys their lives and that is why Luke gave these balloons his full attention. He wasn't some dillatante playboy putting his romantic affairs ahead of his duty as an officer and a pilot in wartime: it takes Hollywood to invent such unprofessional behaviour and call it noble.

Going back to Norway, Ray Mears did a fascinating survival program examining the feat of the real ''Heroes of Telemark'', who before destroying the German heavy water plant were first obliged to survive months in Norway's Arctic winter with no contact with England and no supplies. He interviewed a sprightly old man who had been one of the party and at one point tactfully broached the subject of the Hollywood film, The Heroes of Telemark. The old fellow gave a perfect response:

''It is a good film. I enjoyed it very much.'' Pause. '' Of course, it bears absolutely no resemblance to anything which really happened.''

[John C. Holmes]

Luke's story reads a lot like Billy Bishop, (Canada's legendary WWI ace.) Tall tales about Bishop are like Pecos Bill stories. Taking on a German Aerodrome BY HIMSELF and WINNING, shooting down the Red Baron, (not killing him mind you, simply winning the dogfight and forcing Richtoven to land,) among other exploits. Interesting thing to note is that Bishop was one of the few RAF pilots to NOT be a member of any one squadren after his first six months in the war. From that point he was given virtually free reign to shoot down anyone he wished as long as they were on the other side.

The stage play Billy Bishop Goes To War is one that SHOULD be made into a movie regardless of whether Bishop's crazy stories were true. ALL of them were damn fun to listen to when he was alive.

[Mal Hombre]

The thing about Bishop is that none of his victories were confirmed,unlike James Macudden or Mick Mannock,but any coverage of WW1 in the air would welcome.

[brianwp]

Truth of the matter is...Hollywood is running out of good ideas for movies, so they're re-making so many old ones. Which works, sometimes, (Scarface, Scent of a Woman, Ocean's Eleven), but most of the time, don't..Psycho, Spartacus, The Taking of Pelham 123, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, The Yearling, Sunset Boulevard, The Out of Towners, The Mummy, Murder on the Orient Express, The Lavender Hill Mob, Carrie, Carnival of Souls, Inherit the Wind, Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Night Must Fall, etc., etc. Is nothing sacred? Not to mention the tv remakes, like Bewitched. Or all the comic remakes, like Superman, Batman, the Flintstones, Transformers, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Scoobie Doo, etc., etc. I'm just waiting for a remake of the Godfather any time now, starring Kevin Spacey, with Brad Pitt as Santino, and Colin Farell as Michael Corleone. That is when I will go totally postal and wander onto the set killing everyone in sight. With a shotgun. Ok, maybe a bb gun.

[Mal Hombre]

It's more surprising the films they hav'nt remade ,no new Citizen Kane,no new Gone With the Wind etc.

[rad2927]

So now Rob Zombie will do another remake of The Blob-why!? The last version really wasn't bad.

[tabler]

Going back to brians post, who and when the hell did they remake the Lavender Hill Mob?
That one must have past me by, my god, is nothing sacred? Its a classic film.
Can anyone tell me what it was like? Who was in it etc?

[rad2927]

Going back to brians post, who and when the hell did they remake the Lavender Hill Mob?
That one must have past me by, my god, is nothing sacred? Its a classic film.
Can anyone tell me what it was like? Who was in it etc?
I'm not sure if I'm right but I think that was a Coen Brothers-Tom Hanks moviethat is recent but I can't remember the title-it wasn't good at all especially considering the participants.

[stantine]

john landis,the write/director of "an american werewolf in london" was on bbc radio 5,the other day,saying that,he had been asked if (some film company)they could re-make the film.
john was all for it,as he said"as long as the cheque didnt bounce,the film company could do it,".
american werewolf,in my opinion,is a great horror film,it would be very hard for a re-make to improve on the original.

[rad2927]

I agree with stantine-there is no way to improve that film. Everything really came together and worked on that one.

[squigg58]

Going back to brians post, who and when the hell did they remake the Lavender Hill Mob?
That one must have past me by, my god, is nothing sacred? Its a classic film.
Can anyone tell me what it was like? Who was in it etc?

On movieweb ... "According to Variety, Odd Lot Entertainment has acquired remake rights to The Lavender Hill Mob, with Dean Parisot attached to direct." My understanding is that it's set for release in 2011.

[scoundrel]

The idea of remaking The Lavender Hill Mob is artistically as bankrupt as Icesave and Lehman Brothers, but the obvious motive is to cash in on the reputation of the original. You are almost guaranteed a turd of a movie: the whole commercial risk management strategy is to avoid creativity, originality or artistic effort and merely harvest the work done and artistic risks taken by someone else, often long ago.

I caught a few minutes of the 2002 remake of Around The World In 80 Days and I thought it a good example of why remakes are generally crap. I can accept Jackie Chan as Passpartout, (Cantinflas did a good job in the original) but the plot had evidently been altered to bring in a European love interest (why?) and Phileas Fog was being played by Jonathan Ross FFS.:eek: Jonathan Ross instead of David Niven? Oh Purleeze!

[tabler]

It was Steve Coogan not Jonathan Ross scounds, but yeah it was shit!

[scoundrel]

It was Steve Coogan not Jonathan Ross scounds, but yeah it was shit!

Just as bad to be honest. I shouldn't have made that mistake and yet I can't really bring myself to feel I did this turd log any injustice. Coogan looked and sounded a lot like JR and was just as rubbish as JR would have been: but thanks for setting the facts straight, tabs, it wouldn't do to leave the wrong info out there. The original film didn't deserve to win Oscar for Best Film ahead of Giant and The King And I, but it certainly deserved to be nominated. I would nominate the film tapes of the remake for the scoundrel best firelighters award.:mad:

[Mal Hombre]

There's a new Nightmare on Elm Street for God's sake,if there was ever a franchise that had been ridden into the ground,it's this one.

[bitchassnigga_666]

Some remakes are good. For example "Dawn Of The Dead" or "The Mummy". Some are excellent like "Scarface" and "Battlestar Galactica (the series)".

But most of them are plain rubbish.

"The Departed". The original was a thrilling movie. The remake... Jack Nicholsons overacting. The length. Scorcese derserved an Academie Award, but not for this crap.

Or my highlight on the shitlist. "The Fog". The original was a real frightning ghost-flick. The remake was like "Ghost 90210 ", uninteresting and boring.

Most of the remakes are unnecessary. But sometimes you can find something worth watching.

[scoundrel]

...my highlight on the shitlist. "The Fog". The original was a real frightning ghost-flick. The remake was like "Ghost 90210 ", uninteresting and boring.The Fog didn't need to be remade. The only justification for a remake is if you can actually improve on the original and its very rare that a remake actually does this. But as a trivial aside, Beverly Hills 90210 was rubbish, that's not fairy tales, but I had a bit of a soft spot for the egregiously high-maintenance Shannen Doherty.:D

[videodrome]

The Dawn of the Dead remake had better special effects and faster zombies. The movie has a lot of politically correct undertones, I'm not sure why the feel the need to teach tolerance lessons in a zombie shooter.

[imtrying]

Social commentary has been part of George Romero's zombie flicks since "Night of the Living Dead". That's what seperates his films from the usual splatter fests.

[John C. Holmes]

Question for the floor:

Does Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn count as a remake of Evil Dead One? (Effectively a reboot of the original with only Bruce returning from the original.)

[BobFrogg]

I recoiled in horror from my tv last night having seen an advertisement for the remake of Fame!!!? Why?

[MaxJoker]

I recoiled in horror from my tv last night having seen an advertisement for the remake of Fame!!!? Why?

"Because Fame costs , and going to the cinema to see it is how you start paying , with vomit ! " :rolleyes:

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[MaxJoker]

Question for the floor:

Does Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn count as a remake of Evil Dead One? (Effectively a reboot of the original with only Bruce returning from the original.)


The floor recognizes fellow member JC :D

Speaking / typing for myself alone i`d say you`re on safe ground there , as it was more or less a remake of the original just with a higher budget and extra humour. Gee`s but the less said about it`s sequel the better , i mean talk about a wanky waste of producers money and fans patience :mad:

There was only one saving grace , long Live Bruce Campbell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Campbell) :cool:

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[tmee2000]

There is only one thing worse than the remake of a good movie/classic and that is the remake of a heap of crap.

[LoveLover]

There is only one thing worse than the remake of a good movie/classic and that is the remake of a heap of crap.

I saw the pilot of the TV series Farscape for the first time yesterday. It starts with an astronaut leaving our Earth in our time to start an experiment that makes him end up somewhere (or sometime) where human (or human likes) and aliens are traveling through space on an everyday basis and he ends up in the middle of a conflict.

Yes, that does sound like the synopsis of the pilot episode of Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century!

It made me realize why I love remakes and reboots so much. At least the makers of reboots and remakes have a valid excuse for stealing other people's ideas!

The one thing worse than a bad remake is a good original story that reminds you of something you've seen before!

[kananga]

I just watched the remake of the 1972 film "the Last House on the Left", which was okay (not great), seems they substituted a microwave for a chainsaw for the final scene and a couple of blondes for the mother/daughter team and otherwise generally bought it up to date, most likely with a larger budget.
I admit I'm not very familiar with the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0r066kUBUo but from what I've seen it looks a little dated, not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
(a preview of the recent remake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqXnowJjfDc&feature=fvw)

Has anyone watched both versions of "the Hitcher"?
I have seen the original, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WmEoMY2Lo&NR=1 and while I'm not so sure it needed a remake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMZJpteSX6Q the same remake doesn't look all that bad.

Out of the two I've picked here I would say "the Hitcher" was remade primarily for money, whereas they may have felt they could upgrade "Last House".

[scoundrel]

Out of the two I've picked here I would say "the Hitcher" was remade primarily for money, whereas they may have felt they could upgrade "Last House".Common mistake this: to think you can ''upgrade'' a film. The 1952 remake of The Prisoner of Zenda upgraded this film to colour, but downgraded it across the board artistically with the sole exception of James Mason as the lead villain's pet assassin, Rupert of Hentzau. No-one else in the 1952 film was worth a damn in it, not even Deborah Kerr: the 1937 version with Ronald Colman, David Niven etc is extremely dated now but still much the better film.

No doubt today they would use CGI special effects.:rolleyes:

[kananga]

Common mistake this: to think you can ''upgrade'' a film. ..:rolleyes:

I just read a review of the original "Last House" on Youtube, as well as watching a couple of 'episodes' (as in Youtube movie parts).
The original was very cheap and grainy, which some say gave it a documentive appeal?, with some comedic interludes of a couple of bumbling local lawmen.
I'm finding the treatment of the original "junior" character very unsympathetic, (he's depicted as incredibly stupid), whereas in the remake he is a pacificist.
The original, based on Bergman's 1960 "the Vigin Spring". was directed by Wes Craven and was described as "based on a true story", which is not true.

The original only saw an unedited/uncensored DVD release last year (2008).
The rape stabbing of the teenage girls is a lot more graphic in the original apparently.
As for what the mother does to one of her daughters assailants certainly would attract heavy censorship.

[DTravel]

I wish to announce that I have just signed a deal with a major studio to do a remake of this thread.

[marlon]

Going back to brians post, who and when the hell did they remake the Lavender Hill Mob?
That one must have past me by, my god, is nothing sacred? Its a classic film.
Can anyone tell me what it was like? Who was in it etc?

I'm not sure if I'm right but I think that was a Coen Brothers-Tom Hanks moviethat is recent but I can't remember the title-it wasn't good at all especially considering the participants.

No, not quite - close but no cigar!

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The only version of the Lavender Hill Mob, Tabs, is still the 1951 Ealing Studios version starring Alec Guinness, Sid James, Stan Holloway et al.

I think the remake that you are thinking of rad was the 2004 Coen Brothers remake of The Ladykillers starring Tom Hanks.

The original 'The Ladykillers' was another of the great Ealing Studios comedies and again starred Alec Guinness this time with Peter Sellers, Cecil Parker, Jack Warner amongst others in support. The original was a great movie - the remake not so great.

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The Tom Hanks version was panned by the critics and didn't do that well at the box office.

Funnily enough Hollywood did get around to remaking one of the other famous British comedies of the period - 'School for Scoundrels'. The 1960 original starred Ian Carmichael, Terry Thomas, Alastair Sim and Janette Scott. The 2006 remake starred Billy Bob Thornton and Jon Heder and again didn't do that well at the box office, though not quite as bad as The Ladkillers, it wasn't a patch on the original.

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By the way Tabs, the remake of the Lavender Hill Mob is due 2011! Don't film makers know when to leave alone!

;)

[hansvon]

from horror-movies.ca ............ Its pretty insane that this is my third complete list of upcoming horror remakes but even more insane is the fact I was able to add alot more films to the upcoming remakes list. From another remake of the Blob to yet another remake to Children of the Corn and even a remake of I Spit on your Grave this list is pretty insane and I had to split it over 3 pages just to make it readable.

Last time I did this list it had nearly 70 films on the list but since i did it alot of them have hit theaters or been released to dvs so they are now off this list. So without further ado here is 60 new Horror Remakes in the pipes in alphabetical order.

13 Tzameti: More thriller then horror but still well worth talking about. 13 Tzameti has already reportedly been shooting in New York and stars Mickey Rourke and Jason Statham. The original is a tale of Russian--- roulette!

Art of the Devil: In 2008 Cerenzie-Peters Productions bought the rights to the Art of the Devil films. Each original film has its own storyline but the new one is reportedly going to focus on the second film about a woman who tortures and murders her students. Sounds vicious.

Army of Darkness: This is more 'talk' then anything. There is tons of talk of a remake and or sequel it just has never amounted to much. Everytime we turn around Sam Raimi is saying its going ahead and then following it up with its not. So as much as we might see a remake dont expect it anytime soon. Its in the pipes but god knows when.

Anguish: Universal is bringing us a remake of spanish film Anguish. The remake was written by Jake Wade Wall who did AMUSEMENT. Amusement is a great premise that is done VERY badly and has the most frustrating ending ever. He also did When A Strangers Calls and The Hitcher Remake. The original film, directed by Bigas Luna, was a horror-movie-within-a-horror movie. As an audience in a small theater watches a film about an optometrist on a killing spree, a maniac begins killing the moviegoers.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes: Kent Nichols and Douglas Sarine, the creators of the Internet series "Ask a Ninja", are writing a script with Nichols set to direct. Attack of the Killer Tomatoes is a classic b-movie which has already been remade and does not need to be remade again. George Clooney was awesome in it and I have a hard time seeing any way you one up the last one.

The Blob: "The Blob" already had a remake in 1988. The script was writen by Frank Darabont and Chuck Russell, who also directed. Now Rob Zombie will direct another remake. Problem is Rob says its his first non horror movie. News Flash Mr Zombie THE BLOB is not a childrens flick. Sure its scifi but its also horror. Scott Rudin will produce the film for Paramount.

The Birds: The folks at Platinum Dunes are remaking this one. The film will star Naomi Watts and will be directed by Martin Campbell. This film is not a true remake since the producers have told us that the film will take its own path. I am one of the few who has enjoyed the Platinum Dunes remakes so I will give this one a shot.

Battle Royale: I don't even know how you go about remaking one of the most visceral movies ever made but no shock that Hollywood is going to try. No word on who will direct or star or when this one might see the light of day.

Creature from the Black Lagoon:There has been lots of talk on this remake just nothing recently. The word is that Bill Paxton will star but you know how early word can change. Breck Eisner will direct

The Crazies: This is a classic Romero film but I have not seen it yet. For some odd reason it has always fallen into the cracks of films that I should see but have not. The film is being directed by Breck Eisner who is only known to me for the horrible action film Sahara. Timothy Olyphant from HITMAN and Live Free or Die Hard stars.

Child's Play: Since the film has gone about as stupid as it can get with various sequels it was time for a remake. Its a way the studios can cash in, avoid the stupid sequels and milk more cash out of this killer doll movie franchise. The first film was creepy but the sequels quickly took it into the 'stupid' category. No idea on a release date or director for this one.

Children of the Corn: Children of the Corn is another movie that scared the crap out of me as a kid. The fact its getting remade is sad. SciFi Channel would be producing there very own remake of Stephen King's Children of the Corn. Only this time around they claim that it is more focused around the book rather than the actual film from 1984. David Anders, Kandyse McClure, Preston Bailey and Daniel Newman will star.

Children of the Corn: Yep this is not a typo. There are 2 remakes in the works. The Weinsteins are also doing a remake. Bob Weinstein told Variety; "We felt the 1984 film was a missed opportunity," said Weinstein. "If you read the short story, it's got such a strong feeling to it and there's this religious overtone to it as well. Ehren wants to hit it hard. It's popular in Hollywood to say you re-envisioning a project but a lot of the time they're just carbon copying the original. We are bringing something new to the story."

Day of the Triffids: Day of the Triffids is being remade by the BBC and will be based in 2011. So the present day by the time it gets to theaters. It is adapted from the 1951 novel and will be written by ER and Law and Order writer Patrick Harbinson.

Dont Be Afraid of the Dark: Troy Nixey will be helming from a script written by Matthew Robbins and del Toro. The original 1973 ABC TV movie was about a woman who moved into a new home only discover she had some unwanted guests crawling within the walls. So it looks like things are beginning to get serious with this one. Be sure to keep it here for more.

Eyes of Laura Mars Remake: John Carpenters classic which starred Faye Dunnaway and Tommy Lee Jones is being remade. Chris Fisher who just finished the sequel to Donnie Darko called S.Darko will be helming and writing the project and is looking to get it off the ground this summer.

The Echo: Do not get me started on this one. Yam Laranas is slated to direct a remake of Sigaw aka The Echo. I am not a very big fan of Asian horror remakes and will be avoiding this one. No word on a release date.

Escape From New York: There has been talk of a new Escape movie for a long time. The script has been put together by Dave Kajganich and rumors have it titled as 'Escape From Earth'. Names such as Gerard Butler have been batted around to star.

Evil Dead: Right off the bat I have to be wary even mentioning Evil Dead. Sam Raimi wants to do it but has said many times the project is not progressing since he is just way to busy. Alot of names have been batted around for the Ash character including Sean William Scott and Ashton Kutcher. At the end of the day this remake is not really in the works at this point but worth mentioning since it has come up alot!

Faces of Death: Not long ago it was announced that JT Petty would be reviving the series by remaking the original. It is more of a new head start rather than a remake I would say.

FunHouse: The original film is being remade by Universal and StrikeForce entertainment. No word on cast or director at this point. The original told the story of a FunHouse that resulted in carnage and death in the funhouse.

The Gate : Alex Winter will be at the helm directing the remake of The Gate. There is also a possibility that the film will also be in 3D. Alex Winter is known for directing Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure and Freaked. In the original, two teenagers come across a special rock with a beautiful crystalline center in their backyard. The rock enthralls them and they dig up the family's lawn in a search for more of the precious stones. The removal of an old tree in Glen's backyard reveals a large and mysterious hole, a gateway to somewhere dangerous. It's a hidden underground chamber that holds the secret of centuries and the vengeance of eternity. Left alone for three days, brother and sister must contend with the creatures that rise up from "The Gate".

Ghost Busters: This puppy will re-unite the original gang. Columbia Pictures has hired Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky to put together a script. The original Ghost Busters Dan Aykroyd, Bill Murray, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson will return and word is it will begin shooting sometime in 2009!

Halloween 3d: Because why bastardize a franchise once when you can do it twice right? Right after Halloween 2 bombed the studio announced they were going to do Halloween 3D. Awesome I know. Patrick Lussier who did scream will direct.

The Host: The Host is a really cool movie and one you should all go and checkout. Universal bought the rights to it in 2007 and have tapped Fredrik Bond to direct it. Although he is not very well known their producer is. Gore Verbinski will produce it. No word on a release date yet.

Hellraiser: Hellraiser is one movie that messed with my head as a kid. A remake is in the pipes and originally was going to be in theatres for 2009. No such luck since the film has script issues it seems. Pascal Laugier was slated to direct the film which was a PERFECT choice since he directed Martyrs but Clive Barker let it be known that he is now off the project. Huge
let down.

How To Kill a Child: Filmmax International have picked up the project and are producing. They have attached director David Alcalde with a script from David Munoz. The only other bit of production news is that according to an IMDB listing Diego Luna is set to star. They have also renamed the film In The PlayGround.

I Spit on Your Grave: Yes they really are going to try and remake this movie. How? why? Those are not questions a film studio asks. Thats a question fans of the genre ask. The producers are actually looking to make this film just as controversial as the original film. That would require a lot that I do not think they will be able to do. Camille Keaton is nearly naked throughout the entire film so to make this just as "controversial" will be hard to do if he plans on nabbing an R rating.

I walked with a Zombie: Twisted Pictures also has the rights to this one. Zero word on its status other then Twisted picked up the rights.

It's Alive: The original was written and directed by Larry Cohen (Q: The Winged Serpent, Bone, The Stuff). The remake is directed by Josef Rusnak (The Thirteenth Floor) and stars Bijou Phillips (Hostel: Part II) as a mother who's newborn baby cares for something besides traditional momma's milk and formula. Watch the trailer here (http://terrorfeed.com/index.php?id=Its_Alive_2008_Trailer)

IT (Stephen Kings): Warner Brothers in association with Lin Pictures and Vertigo Entertainment is starting to put the remake together. They have already announced a Director, Dave Kajganich, who has previously remade Pet Semetary and has written The Invasion as well as the upcoming Escape From New York redux.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers: Twisted picture is set to remake Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Twisted Pictures is of course the folks known best for the SAW franchise. I am not sure Twisted Pictures are known for anything else but then that might be the wine talking.. its been a long day. There has been no progress on this one that we have heard of but Twisted Pictures has the rights and its in the pipes.

Little Shop of Horrors: Declan Obrien who just completed the direct to DVD horror tale CYCLOPS for Roger Corman is being tapped to do another remake of The Little Shop of Horrors. Pretty safe bet Woody Allen wont be in this one.

Lake Mungo: Paramount Vantage has decided to remake the Australian flick. No word on when. In Lake Mungo Sixteen-year-old Alice Palmer drowns while swimming in the local dam. When her body is recovered and a verdict of accidental death returned, her grieving family buries her. The family then experiences a series of strange and inexplicable events centered in and around their home. Profoundly unsettled, the Palmers seek the help of psychic and parapsychologist, RAY KEMENY. Ray discovers that Alice led a secret, double life. A series of clues lead the family to Lake Mungo where Alice's secret past emerges.

Let The Right One In: The remake of Let The Right One In called Let Me In is going to go into shooting in May. The film will no doubt begin casting soon. Cloverfields Matt Reeve's will be directing the film.

Mothers Day: Saw director Darren Lynn Boussman is directing. The film stars Rebecca De Mornay as the Mom, Lyriq Bent (Saw 2, 3, 4) and Lisa Marcos (The Listener) Jaime King, Shawn Ashmore, Briana Evigan, Alexa Vega and Matt O'Leary. The original "Mother's Day" revolved around three female friends who, while camping, run afoul of two brothers who engage in murder and rape to impress their deranged mother. The new version, written by Scott Milam, is being remolded as a psychological thriller in which the wicked family returns to the house where they grew up to terrorize the new owners and their guests.

Monster Squad: Monster Squad was a really fun film and one that I never even saw until recently. Rob Cohen director of The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor is going to direct a remake for Paramount. Apparently they have just bought the remake rights to Fred Dekker's 1987 cult classic.

Martyrs: Fox has picked up the rights to remake Martyrs originally directed by Pascal Laugier. The original film is highly disturbing and tells the story of a catatonic girl who spent her life incarcerated.

Motel Hell: Originally MGM had the rights to the remake but then sold the rights to Twisted Pictures. No word on any specifics like when the film will see the light of day but rumors are Twisted Pictures plans are to not do a direct remake but turn Motel Hell into an entirely new horror franchise. Update: Turns out this project is back at MGM and Steven C Miller is working on it. Steven C Miller dropped us a line with the update. Tks Steven!

The Monkeys Paw: Todd farmer is doing the sript for The Monkeys Paw Remake based on the 1933 original. The Monkeys paw tells the story of an evil paw that grants wishes that have evil unintended results. A woman wishes for her son to return after his death and he does with consequences.

Nightmare on Elm Street:] This one is shooting in Chicago April of 2009. Again brought to us by Platinum Dunes the films focus is going to be on the pedophilia which offended lots of horror fans me included. When the producers announced the overall theme it was frankly in bad taste. Lets hope Nightmare on Elm Street can be a good horror film and not be all about the pedophilia

Night of the Demons : Adam Gierasch and Jace Anderson have written the script and from what I have heard them say about it.. there is a lot of blood and sex. Adam Gierasch also directs the film which stars Shannon Elizabeth. emember when she was all the talk of town? Expect a September release date.

The Orphanage: The studio is promising a huge female lead but I for one will not be holding my breath. Guillermo Del Toro will produce the film, no word on who will star or direct.

Pit & The Pendulum: The Remake being done by Regent Here Films Stars Lorielle New, Amy Paffrath, Danielle Demski, Greg Sestero, Jason Stuart, Jason Shane-Scott. Directed by David DeCoteau. Written by Simon Savory. Some sporty kids go to a mansion to have pain eliminated by hypnosis but instead get killed off by a crazy hypnotherapist. A fun looking riff on Edgar Allan Poe's short story.

Plan 9 From Outter Space: The remake will focus on the serious elements that Wood tried for but failed utterly. For those unfamiliar, Wood's film dealt with aliens bringing back the recently deceased in order to take over the planet. Cult icon Vampira was one of the two recently deceased for the film. Darkstone Entertainment is set to remake the film with its founder John Johnson directing. The trailer for the film can now be watched here (http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_16413.html)

People Under the Stairs: Once again from Wes Craven he has plans to remake People Under the Stairs. This movie for me is a classic and I have no interest in seeing anybody remake this one. Admittedly if Wes is involved I will have more interest then if he is not.

Predator: Robert Rodriquez is producing the remake of Predator which will soon be filming in Hawaii. The film will be a reboot which could very well lead to future films.

Piranha: Alexandre Aja is redoing this film but he is promising its not a true remake and he has every intention of doing something new and cool with it. Josh Stolberg wrote the script for this puppy and I believe this one is going to be done in 3-D.

Poltergeist: Last we heard Vadim Perelman was in final talks to helm the Poltergeist remake. The film is being written by screenwriters Juliet Snowden and Stiles White. MGM is of course behind this remake that was originally directed by Tobe Hooper/Steven Spielberg. The film will be released into theaters November 24th 2010. The film you will recall is a frame by frame remake of the original film. Sort of like the Manhunter remake which was so similar it was quite annoying.. and boring.

PuppetMaster 3-D: Yes kids PuppetMaster is getting the remake treatment and its going to be in 3-D. I know alot of you are big fans of 3-D so no doubt you will be interested in seeing how the classic PuppetMaster looks in 3-D.

Re-animator 3-D: Since My Bloody Valentine 3-D was such a big hit it should come as no shock that producers Ray Haboush and Producer Brian Yuzna are hard at work at Re-Animator 3-D. Brian Yuzna confirms that this is not a new chapter in the Re-Animator saga, but a remake of the first one which follows a dedicated medical student and his gf who get involved in some crazy experiments (no not those kind, medical ones!) involving reanimating dead tissue. When one day an odd new student arrives on campus and things really start to "get moving".

Rocky Horror Picture Show: This film is still being made but the latest news we have is that its been put on hold. Could it be that MTV figured out its a really bad idea? The original film featured Tim Curry in the ultimate camp performance, Susan Sarandon and Meat Loaf. The remake will be produced through MTV and Sky Movies and will be using the original film's screenplay. No cast or director has been attached yet. Executive Producer on the original Lou Adler will also be executive producer on the remake.

Room 205: The remake is being done by Sam Raimi's Ghost House Pictures. It has recently also been renamed from Room 205 to the Dorm. Its the studios way of feeling less dirty about the remake I am sure. The story is pretty basic and follows a young girl who goes off to college. First she is living it up until some very unnatural things begin happening in her room. Then she goes on a wild goose chase trying to figure out who lived in her room before her.

SAW 3-D: Although only in early talks Twisted Pictures has made it clear they would like to do SAW in 3-D. Considering that the franchise has just about run its course it does make sense they either take it to space or go 3-D. 3-D is probably more logical then fighting martians.

Scanners: David Goyer wrote the script and SAW director Darren Lynn Bousman is going to be directing. Dimension is apparently in a rush to get it done and Darren told Fangoria while he was still working on REPO that once Repo wrapped up he would be moving straight to Scanners.

Scream: They are not just planning a remake of Scream they are planning to reboot the entire franchise. David Arquette and Courtney Cox are on board and Neve Campbell and Wes Craven have both been approached but are apparently holding out for big money. Frankly why the hell do we need a complete reboot of SCREAM?

Shocker: Wes Craven recently announced plans for a Shocker remake. Frankly Shocker is one of his lesser movies and could probably use a remake. Admittedly I did enjoy it but it could have been alot better. No word on writers, or plans on when it will be released.

StepFather: Sony is remaking Step Father and the remake just got a PG 13 rating from the MPAA. What is worse then a remake? A remake with a PG-13 rating. Directed by Nelson McCormack the plot in which "Scary" Jerry has become the stepfather in a family of a beautiful, young widow and a lovely daughter. Unfortunately, Jerry has a very strict definition of the perfect family and his new family just may not be making the cut. When his family starts disappointing him, he's is willing to kill for the American Dream. Look for it in theaters on October 16th.

The Seventh Victim: The Seventh Victim is the story of a woman who goes looking for her sister in New York and runs into a Satanic Cult that knows all to well what happened to her. Originally shot in 1944 the film has no writer yet but has been announced.

Silent Night Deadly Night: David Foster Productions is remaking the movie Silent Night Deadly Night. This is the same production company that did the remake of The Fog which got mixed reviews. You may remember the original movie was too controversial to play in theaters.

Suspiria: Natalie Portman is rumored to be in talks to star in this remake of Dario Argentos classic. Last time we talked about this movie we were not sure who would direct but we can now confirm that David Gordon will direct.

Swamp Thing: Joel Silver will be doing the remake of Swamp Thing and not just any remake. He to will use the gimmick of 3D to bring the swamp monster to life. This one could be alot of fun... but it also could suck if they use 3D as an excuse to use a weak cast and a lame script.

They Live: According to the Hollywood Reporter Universal and Strike Entertainment are in negotiations with Les Mougins, who holds the rights to 'They Live, for the remake. Strike's Marc Abraham and Eric Newman are slated to produce, while Shep Gordon (from Les Mougins) and Carpenter will hold executive producer roles.

The Thing: The remake is being written by Ronald D Moore of Battlestar Gallactica fame. It will be based in the Norwegian Camp that we saw in the remake by John Carpenter. This remake however is going to pull alot more from the short story John W. Campbell Jr. wrote called "Who Goes There," which is the basis for both films. Matthijs Van Heijningen will direct.

Terror Train: The remake which is just called TRAIN will be released onto DVD on November 17th. The film stars Thora Birtch. Touring Eastern Europe with her college wrestling team, Alex (Thora Birch - American Beauty) attends a debauched late-night party that causes her and several teammates to miss their train to Odessa. Her coach is furious, but a mysterious woman offers the group a ride on an alternative train. The coach agrees, and the athletes, exhausted and hung over, gratefully climb aboard. However, this train harbors a deadly secret, and for Alex and her fellow passengers, a blood-soaked nightmare is just beginning.

The Tenant: We have next to nothing on this one other then Michael Bay is going to produce it.

Total Recall: I loved Total Recall in all its scifi craziness and this one to is getting the remake treatment. Right now producer Neil H. Moritz is in negotiations to develop a remake of the '90 sci-fi actioner with Columbia Pictures

The Wolfman: Starring Benicio Del Toro the Wolfman remake is Universals big budget attempt at breathing new life into the classic tale. Slotted to hit theatres in April this is one remake I am somewhat keen for. This at least is not a new movie that's getting remade. This film also stars Anthony Hopkins a mans man of actors.

The Warriors: This one is not clear cut horror but forgive me for including it. Ridley Scott is going to produce the remake which will be directed by Tony Scott. I loved the Assault on Precinct 13 remake and the Warriors for me is the same grain. I hope it kicks ass!

2 remakes on Children of the Corn are on their way :( Hollywood is empty on ideas !!

[scoundrel]

Its pretty insane that this is my third complete list of upcoming horror remakes but even more insane is the fact I was able to add alot more films to the upcoming remakes list. From another remake of the Blob to yet another remake to Children of the Corn and even a remake of I Spit on your Grave this list is pretty insane

2 remakes on Children of the Corn on their way :( Hollywood is empty on ideas !!That is bad. Hollywood is a dream factory which cannot sleep and cannot dream fresh dreams so it flicks through the dream diary instead. Its mean to say it, but if the studios can do no better than this then I sincerely hope they go bankrupt. Then someone else with a creative vision, energy and self confidence can take over their plant and machinery and start making some original movies.

[DTravel]

Have I mentioned that a studio has optioned and begun production on a movie version of the old arcade game 'Asteroids'?

[ballyhoo]

I don't know if this has already been posted here, but brace yourselves...

"Monopoly" and "Battleship" are being made into movies!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/12/worst-idea-ever-ridley-scott-is-directing-monopoly/

can't wait for the "Sanford and Son" movie with Brian Dennehy as Fred and Pee Wee Herman as Lamont! :)

[DTravel]

Dreamworks Bidding On View-Master Movie Rights

http://nerddads.com/dreamworks-bidding-on-view-master-movie-rights/

[MaxJoker]

Invasion of the Body Snatchers: Twisted picture is set to remake Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Twisted Pictures is of course the folks known best for the SAW franchise. I am not sure Twisted Pictures are known for anything else but then that might be the wine talking.. its been a long day. There has been no progress on this one that we have heard of but Twisted Pictures has the rights and its in the pipes.



Invasion of the Body Snatchers has been remade in so many variations it`s become as interesting a premise as parsley garnish . One of the latest and worst being The Invasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invasion_(film)) . Starring a chipboard Danial Craig and an expressionless botox frozen faced Nicola Kidman. Fact she looked so weird throughout i figured they`d be a twist at the end that she`d maybe been the only actual alien all along. But no such luck ,oh and talking about endings this remake was so lame it even had a happy one :confused:

[Dr Shipherd]

It's bad enough when good movies are remade badly; it's even worse when movie makers decide to re-make characters. IMHO, the Farrelly Brothers should be taken behind the woodshed for even thinking about using different actors to play the Three Stooges. This isn't a biopic of the boys; the Farrellys are actually trying to re-create the characters with different actors. So far, Sean Penn and Jim Carrey have dropped out of the project, but Benicio del Toro and Paul Giamatti are still tentatively cast. If you ask me, this project has train wreck written all over it.

The only actors who should play Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp are Moe Howard, Larry Fine, Curly Howard, and Shemp Howard. (Same goes for Joe Besser and Curly Joe DeRita, miscast as they were.)

[scoundrel]

Invasion of the Body Snatchers has been remade in so many variations it`s become as interesting a premise as parsley garnish . One of the latest and worst being The Invasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invasion_(film)) . Starring a chipboard Danial Craig and an expressionless botox frozen faced Nicola Kidman. Fact she looked so weird throughout i figured they`d be a twist at the end that she`d maybe been the only actual alien all along. But no such luck ,oh and talking about endings this remake was so lame it even had a happy one :confused:Poor Nicole: she's one of my favourite film actresses but all good things have to come to an end one day. If Mr Plastic is called upon to cure the advancing years forever, a girl can end up like Goldie Hawn. Nicole Kidman is actually a damn good actress and I'm sure she would still get work, even if in supporting character parts rather than starring roles, if she allowed herself to age a little in the usual way nature plans for all of us.

As for the ...of the Dead film production line, I've thought of a new one: Parliament of the Dead. Or would that be too much like the BBC Parliament channel on freeview? Its a remake thats been automatically tape-looping for decades.

[lightsleeper98]

Ugh, so many horror remakes... It's hard to believe that the horror genre has run out of original ways scare to people. After all, the nightly news seems to do a good job of it.

[Nelberto]

Day of the Triffids: Day of the Triffids is being remade by the BBC and will be based in 2011. So the present day by the time it gets to theaters. It is adapted from the 1951 novel and will be written by ER and Law and Order writer Patrick Harbinson.

did anybody see this over christmas?WTF!!i know i'm not the smartest guy in the world but who the hell was Torrance(eddie izzard's character),did i miss something explaining who he was or why he acted the way he did?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Ghaleon]

When Hollywood does a remake, it's because they are running out of original ideas and two bad ones that stick in my mind are House on Haunted Hill and House of Wax. Both okay horror films back in the day, but when remade just an excuse to up the gore factor for today's audience.

I will say that the one saving grace of the new version of House of Wax is when Paris Hilton is offed. The only time I've heard applause in a horror film.

Now, if there is one I would want remade, it would have to be Colossus: The Forbin Project. It is also the one film that I would love to see a sequel made of.

Ghaleon

[Tacobelle]

.....horror movie nut that i am, i have to say that the re-makes of "The Haunting" and "House on Haunted Hill" were both as bottom of the barrel as you can get........oh yeah,........dis-Honorable Mention to "House of Wax" which didnt even bear a passing resembalence to the Vincent Price vehicle.........

[carolaholic]

When Hollywood does a remake, it's because they are running out of original ideas and two bad ones that stick in my mind are House on Haunted Hill and House of Wax. Both okay horror films back in the day, but when remade just an excuse to up the gore factor for today's audience.

I will say that the one saving grace of the new version of House of Wax is when Paris Hilton is offed. The only time I've heard applause in a horror film.

Now, if there is one I would want remade, it would have to be Colossus: The Forbin Project. It is also the one film that I would love to see a sequel made of.

Ghaleon
You may know this, but the 1950s House of Wax was itself a remake, of the 1933 The Mystery in the Wax Museum, which starred Fay Wray in one of her ape-free roles.

You may know this, too, but Colossus: The Forbin Project was based on a novel, Colossus, by D.F. Jones, which was the first novel of a trilogy. The other two novels are The Fall of Colossus and Colossus and the Crab. If the movie had been a major hit (IIRC, it did indifferently at the box office), the other two books might have gotten the movie treatment, too.

I've read somewhere that Ron Howard was planning to remake the movie, but that was a couple of years ago, and the project may have fizzled.

[billybunter]

If i've mentioned this before, sorry. But the remake of Minder was a disgrace.

[snowy25]

I cant think of many TV remakes that were actually any good. Stuff like Battlestar Galactica was good as is thre reboot of Dr Who. The problem is you also had to put up with junk like, as you say, Minder, then there was Bionic Woman and Knight Rider. The latest is V which would probably have been ok if they didnt decide to have a 3 month break in between the 4th and 5th episodes.
You then have horrible remakes from American shows here in the UK. We had Brighton Belles which was a rip off of the Golden Girls. We had Married for Life with Russ Abbot that was a rip off, word for word of Married with Children. We also has a remake of Mad About You starring John Gordon Sinclair, from Gregory's Girl fame, called Loved By You.

[John C. Holmes]

Recently Michael Bay announced that his plans to remake Rosemary's Baby have been greenlit. Roger Ebert responded with this Tweet:

Michael Bay is going to remake Rosemary's Baby. O-kaaaaaaaaaay...

[MaxJoker]

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For some reason they've remade this classic several times , once even with Stewart in the lead again.

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But that one starring Harry Anderson and a half dead Leslie Nielson is beyond bad , in fact it ventures into cruel territory . As in brutally cruel to any poor sap who watches a minute of it .

Avoid at all costs :mad:

Now then :D

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Is it me or does that official publicity shot look oddly sexual :eek:

[haldane4]

If i've mentioned this before, sorry. But the remake of Minder was a disgrace.

'Re-imagined' by a Belfast writer - Tim Loane, a well set up fellow indeed.

There's a remake of Fahrenheit 451 scheduled for 2012, but I'm hoping the end of the world will overtake us before we suffer that indignity.

[888]

Was she the one in that great lyrical Chinese movie a couple of years back - crouching tiger something?

Great movie - although I never really figured out the flying and all that. Anyone know more to clue me in here?

Is it part of the martian arts tradition? The flying thing I mean... :rolleyes:

The best way to describe the flying aspect in Chinese films to western audiences is "The Force" in Star Wars films. "Chi" for Chinese or "Ki" to the Japanese is routed in traditional Oriental medicine (such as acupuncture) and martial arts. Everybody is supposed to have this energy and its healing properties are what are being channelled through accupuncture or pressure points through massage. Its place in martial arts can be found in "Tai Chi" for one example. Generally all martial arts are supposed to channel this no matter what style. The level of a truly great martial artist is in how great their abilty to channel this energy, and not dependant on what colour belt they may have achieved! Legendary masters of the martial arts were said to have great control of this energy allowing them to do many incredible physical feats, some were said to literally be able to fly or float, such was their awsomeness! Or even use it as something more than physical (like the inspiration for fireballs in games like Street Fighter 2 for example). In Star Wars George Lucas borrowed heavily from Oriental culture and Japanese films. Star Wars itself was loosley based on Japanese Samurai film "Hidden Fortress". The Jedi are very Samurai like in how they wield their light sabres and the force is very much a "Chi" like concept, only set a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

This was spoiled largely by Lucas' botched attempt to explain the "Force" via "medichloriens" in the woeful prequels. in some ways if he'd just remade Crouching Tiger hidden Dragon in the Star Wars universe he would have had a pretty decent episode 1.

Back on the discussion of remakes I know I mentioned it on another thread already, but Casablanca has already been remade but is easily missed as Pamela Andersons, "Barb Wire".

Also on a thankful note, Steven Speilberg has (wisely!) decided not to remake "Old Boy" with Will Smith! Who the F*ck thought that could ever be a good idea? It even looks Sh!t on paper!

Unfortunately Will Smiths Son is in line for the remake of the Karate Kid! To be set in China, where they do Kung Fu and not Karate, which is Japanese. The same logic behind remaking "The Italian Job" and setting it in L.A. and still calling it, "The Italian Job" I guess!

[888]

On another note I'd just like to add I'd like to see a remake of "The Last Star Fighter".

[meshandlace]

60 new Horror Remakes in the pipes :eek:

Suspiria, The Thing, Hellraiser: Don't they dare :mad:... I would have liked to see Pascal Laugier's (Martyrs) vision of hell, but in a movie of his own.

The Birds: Some potential if handled right...

I Spit on Your Grave: Not a favourite of mine by a long shot, but HOW on Earth are they going to remake this? :confused: Camille Keaton was achingly beautiful in the original though... The kind of girl you 'd like to take to Montmartre for a walk, not to some redneck county for God's sake! :D

The Warriors, Escape From New York: The atmosphere and setting of the originals is very time-specific. Major changes are needed. I fear the worst...

Funhouse: A personal favourite (the original of course), much seedier and freakier IMO than the ridiculous Spielberg campfest named Poltergeist. Probably Tobe Hooper's best excluding TCM (of all the films of his I 've watched).

Ghost Busters, Nightmare on Elm Street, Re-animator 3-D, Predator, Total Recall: Have we really become that old? :(

SAW 3-D: Have our nephews and nieces really become THAT old?? :confused:

They Live: I hope they don't water its bleak freakiness down and turn it into a by-the-numbers action flick.

Halloween 3d, Invasion of the Body Snatchers: That joke is not funny anymore. I 'm talking about the joke of remaking the remake.

Let The Right One In: How Hollywood destroys one of the most poetic recent films... :(

Martyrs: I hope she doesn't see aliens in her vision... :D


2 remakes on Children of the Corn are on their way

Let's make them 102... :D

[Oswald]

I heard on the radio the other day that a remake of My Fair Lady is in the offing. A script by Emma Thompson with production from Cameron McIntosh, and Hugh Grant pencilled in to play Professor Higgins.

[haldane4]

I heard on the radio the other day that a remake of My Fair Lady is in the offing. A script by Emma Thompson with production from Cameron McIntosh, and Hugh Grant pencilled in to play Professor Higgins.

Dear God, no.

Has anyone seen the 1983 version of Pygmalion with Peter O'Toole as Higgins? Sounds like such perfect casting that I'm mystified as to why it's so obscure and unavailable.

[Mad_Hatter]

I recently saw a movie that was a remake, and in many ways it was better than the original. It was "On the Beach", based on the book by Neville Shute. Nuclear War has erupted, wiping out everybody in the Northern Hemisphere. However, the deadly radiation is working its way south... to where the last survivors in Australia are awaiting the inevitable. However, a signal from the US seems to suggest that somebody somewhere survived, and a lone surviving US nuclear sub is sent to investigate...

Both movies are well acted (Gregory Peck in the original, Armand Assante in the remake), but because the newer one is updated to today with very good CGI, we have computer signals instead of morse code signals being picked up. I read the book, and both are very faithful to the story. However, if you're looking for a movie to perk you up, these aren't it. The remake, which was made by an Australian firm, is not available on Region 1 DVDs, but thankfully somebody uploaded the movie on YouTube.

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[Brettro]

Poor Nicole: she's one of my favourite film actresses but all good things have to come to an end one day. If Mr Plastic is called upon to cure the advancing years forever, a girl can end up like Goldie Hawn. Nicole Kidman is actually a damn good actress and I'm sure she would still get work, even if in supporting character parts rather than starring roles, if she allowed herself to age a little in the usual way nature plans for all of us.

As for the ...of the Dead film production line, I've thought of a new one: Parliament of the Dead. Or would that be too much like the BBC Parliament channel on freeview? Its a remake thats been automatically tape-looping for decades.


Our Nicole was recently named as the face of Australia's bid for the soccer world cup, as one commentator said "How can she be the face of the world cup when she isnt even the face of Nicole Kidman.

[MaxJoker]

I heard on the radio the other day that a remake of My Fair Lady is in the offing. A script by Emma Thompson with production from Cameron McIntosh, and Hugh Grant pencilled in to play Professor Higgins.

So i take it this Higgins will be a very nervous type of weedy wimp character who gulps a lot and goes " Erm erm , gosh , erm erm " .

Wonder how he first meets Eliza in the new film ?

While curb crawling no doubt ;)

[blatt]

:)Nobody has mentioned the rotten planet of the apes remake yet .Starring one of the worlds worst actors mark walberg !. That film must have cost fifty times what the entire apes film series cost combined but although the costumes and monkey masks looked the business the plot was a steaming turd. Action was awful to . That big build up fight at the end was useless and can somebody explain to me the final ending ?. How was it he returned to a future that was identical to the one he left including fashions - transport - designs and the rest but worn - driven and run by apes ?. Also how could there be a president lincoln statue of a lincoln ape ?. Was there an identical ape america civil war ?. If so what was it about slavery or was it about the north apes throwing their poo at the south apes :) How dumb was that ending. Did the director think it would make us all go crazy for the second film he expected to make or just go crazy after being treated like idiots :mad::)

[grossnex]

I recently saw the remake of Nightmare on Elm Street. The original's ending was the only thing that ever really bothered me about that film so I figured I'd check it out. The ending for the remake was really good in my opinion but I had to sit through 1 1/2 hours of pure crap to get to it.
Even if you're not into horror movies you would have to admit that Freddy had charisma. Not anymore. Freddy was simply boring & at times I wondered if the character was mentally challenged.

I do have to say that Rob Zombie's Halloween remakes were enjoyable for me conversely. It's not easy to take a famous fictional murderer who terrified millions for decades & make him more intimidating.

[MaxJoker]

Was there an identical ape america civil war ?. If so what was it about slavery or was it about the north apes throwing their poo at the south apes :)

I love you blatt , i hope you know that http://i47.*******.com/2hdo3lc.gif



Even if you're not into horror movies you would have to admit that Freddy had charisma. Not anymore. Freddy was simply boring & at times I wondered if the character was mentally challenged.

Fully agree , fact the character was so flat i don`t know why they didn`t simply use a cardboard cutout and throw it into the scenes at random moments. Well might have made us jump at least once , plus the cardboard probably would have portrayed more menace :mad:

I do have to say that Rob Zombie's Halloween remakes were enjoyable for me conversely. It's not easy to take a famous fictional murderer who terrified millions for decades & make him more intimidating.

Got to disagree here though because i felt they were a mistake . As in remaking a classic ,yet once again remaking it virtually identically. Where`s the point in that ?. McDowell was value for money as usual but him aside for me both films were weak extremely expensive copies. Plus that kid who plays Micheal really pisses me off. What did they put an ad in the local paper " Child actor wanted - Requirements needed = An inability to act even the most rudimentary of emotions and must retain a dumb smile on face throughout "

:mad:

[grossnex]

I absolutely agree with everything you hated about Halloween. You had me falling out my chair describing the kid. I've seen way too many of these classic movies remade however to really care too much about the plot anymore personally. I just request that they stay true to actual killer in the movie. Halloween did that with the new Micheal Myers for me regardless of the supporting cast although I thought the little girl from the 4th & 5th movies coming back & playing the daughter of the sheriff was kind of cool. It also wasn't one of Sherry Moon's better performances in either remake. But I enjoyed the kill scenes much better than the remakes for Friday the 13th or Texas Chainsaw Massacre for example.

[Mal Hombre]

The thing about all these remakes(Halloween,Nightmare on Elm Street etc.) is that all the originals were done to death already,there must be 30 Halloween movies alone.

[blatt]

I love you blatt , i hope you know that

Cheers for that GreenSkull:thumbsup: You can all blame yourselves for the encouragement i have received to post such guff :) Came here for the porn and stay for this part of the site :thumbsup:

:)Another rotten remake i cant stand and that is shown more regularly on film four than even the advert breaks is `around the world in 80 days `. The one with a nervous looking coogan and an annoying side kick chan who does the same old moves weve all seen in every film hes ever made. Really awful and not funny even slightly. Most awful bit is the part with arnie as a king or something. Made my toes curl . Nivens one 40 odd years back was bright brilliant and made with 1 percent of the budget of this rubbish. Wish film 4 would stop showing it. Would never sit through it again but even seeing its title gets me grumbling to myself :)

[chupachups]

looks like there is going to be a dambusters remake by peter jackson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam_Busters_%28film%29#Remake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise

reading the complete wiki article I am saddened that most of the casualties from the raid were 1000s of allied POWs and women forced labourers

the raid being largely ineffective in hindering nazi industrial capacity, it served mainly a moral boosting exercise, but at a huge cost to allied lives, something the original film to its shame doesn't even mention

[MaxJoker]

So good :cool:

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So so so bad :eek:

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Managed to sit through forty minutes of the Woody Allen abortion the day before and most of that time was spent with me shaking my head in disgust. It`s like nobody involved with that film ever bothered to check out the daily`s :confused:
Or bothered to ask the two leads why they were giving performances that were as understandable to follow as a drowning tramp :confused:

Oh and talking of skanks :D

The always immensely adorable ( In her own mind) SJP co-stars to :eek:

Helping make this one of the worst ever re-makes in remade history !


Least it`s safe to say the two originals (In every sense) never bothered to sit through it , and certainly have no worries of having to watch it now.
What with it being the sort of film that would only ever be re-running in one place . Hell :mad:




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[ballyhoo]

I recently saw a trailer for "The Green Hornet" remake with Seth Rogen... :mad: :confused:

which promptly made the turkey come right back up! :D

[snowy25]

I see they are remaking Fright Night also and it will be out next year. The first one was not very good as I recall and Colin Farell is not who I would have cast in the role. It really does seem like there is a void of new ideas.

[penfold007]

There was talk of a Blake's 7 "reboot" in the same way that BSG was remade recently. I'd welcome that, but it would need to keep it largely character driven, not reliant on special effects and not remove Blake at the end of the second series so he could avoid getting typecast ;).

Jonny Mnemonic needs to be made properly (rather than remade), without a plank of wood in the title role and with a script closer to the original story. The coda to the story that is found in Neuromancer could be added, but the whole thing would depend on Molly Millions being properly cast.

[tygrkhat40]

I recently saw a trailer for "The Green Hornet" remake with Seth Rogen... :mad: :confused:

which promptly made the turkey come right back up! :D

I don't know if I'd call Rogan's Green Hornet a remake per se, as I don't know of any GH feature before this. An adaptation of the 60's TV series, maybe. It does look like the insipiration for the movie is the show.

But these remakes are going too far. "Rebooting" Spider-Man, less than 10 years after the brilliant Raimi-Maguire film, now the remake of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, without input from Joss Wheadon. This just shows the lack of creativity and lack of imagination in Hollywood today.

[gtos4ever]

Don't know how this one snuck up on me but just caught the TV spot for the "True Grit" remake hitting US theaters next month. :confused::mad: As much as I like Jeff Bridges he ain't The Duke.

[theequestrian]

Gus Van Zants' shot-for-shot remake of Psycho. I don't think this requires elaboration.

Spielbergs' proposed live-action remake of Ghost in a Shell. Just picture this abomination in your mind: Cameron Diaz as Motoko; Hulk Hogan as Batou; the Tachikomas become the main characters; they befriend a small boy who has become orphaned in circumstances dripping with pathos, in the end Batou adopts him. The rest of the plot will be taken up by overladen c.g. and hackneyed, predictable plot contrivances ending in a 100 million dollar Deus ex Machina ending. Can't wait.

Kubricks' remake of 'Fail Safe' (since Fail Safe was finished and ready for release before 'Strangelove' this is technically - if not aesthetically - correct)

Speed Racer. It took the W. brothers 120 million and change to surpass the ineptness and poor execution of the original iconic 60's piece of shit. A piece of shit mind you produced on a budget of 2 cheese sandwiches and a scupper of gruel. Maybe they would have been better off following the example of the original and gotten 3 actors (2 male, 1 female) to dub all the other actors in the film.

How about the 70th odd remake of the Three Musketeers? But this one stars Christopher Walken, James Woods, and Dennis Hopper (yeah I know he's dead, but we can rotoscope him in) as the Musketeers and Joaquin Phoenix as D'Artagnan.

[ballyhoo]

I don't know if I'd call Rogan's Green Hornet a remake per se, as I don't know of any GH feature before this. An adaptation of the 60's TV series, maybe. It does look like the insipiration for the movie is the show.

good point tygrkhat. yeah, I meant the TV show with Van Williams and Bruce Lee!

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and now that gtos4ever says it, I do remember seeing the "True Grit" trailer! :confused:
Pewwww, remaking a John Wayne classic is just wrong!! :mad:

[alibabababy]

Am looking forward (fingers crossed that is) to the remake of The Thing as it is one of my favorite movies ever and not thinking they will better it but as long as they make a good go of it.

Big horror fan here and actually enjoyed the remakes of Hills and Chainsaw that have popped up over the past few years, yeah they have been done a tonne to the dozen but you know what to expect from these type of movies.

The same can't be said for Elm Street pretty dire movie though Last House was good but then again it couldn't be any worse than the original.

[DTravel]

Personally I'm waiting for when Hollywood makes a prequel of a sequel of a reboot of a prequel of a remake. I figure about five more years. :D

[MaxJoker]

Personally I'm waiting for when Hollywood makes a prequel of a sequel of a reboot of a prequel of a remake. I figure about five more years. :D

You obviously haven`t heard they`re planning a prequel to the sequel to Gone With The Wind then :D

I`m not kidding either :eek:

Yes better check those watches people ,because we are now officially entering Hell`s time zone :(

[navvet]

I usually hate remakes of movies. I don't see any sense in it. If a movie is good, why is there a need to remake it? And if a movie is bad, why on Earth would you want to remake it? Also, I have yet to see a movie, based on a television show, that was near as good as the show, (that is, if the show was good).

[tygrkhat40]

I usually hate remakes of movies. I don't see any sense in it. If a movie is good, why is there a need to remake it? And if a movie is bad, why on Earth would you want to remake it? Also, I have yet to see a movie, based on a television show, that was near as good as the show, (that is, if the show was good).

The Fugitive was a good movie version of a TV series. And I enjoyed the two Addams Family movies, they were OK.

[oldster]

with the development of 3D TV's as well as 3D for the movies that don't give you wicked headachges to watch. Along with advancements in special effects from ILM as well as others(LOTR, etc). Hollywood, etc really should look at listings of TV shows and movies from earliest days to the present to decide which shows, movies done in the past could be redone with techniques available now.

Some to consider
--Metropolis(the black and white classic scifi movie) could be redone using current special effects(including 3D) but be done in two versions----black and white version or a version in color
--Ben Hur
--Godzilla
--films that were a bust in the past not because of poor story line but because of poor effects, acting, etc. A movie that bombed or was unremarkable due to reasons other than story can be redone and done well(example---Isaac Asimov's 'Fantatastic Voyage' that had the redeeming value of Racquel Welch but was otherwise lame). Fantastic Voyage would be excellent in 3D and with other current special effects.

[renno61]

kind of liked the remake of 3.10 to Yuma and i am looking forward
to see the new version of judge Dredd with Karl Urban .
let hope its not like the last Stallone mess

[DTravel]

--films that were a bust in the past not because of poor story line but because of poor effects, acting, etc. A movie that bombed or was unremarkable due to reasons other than story can be redone and done well(example---Isaac Asimov's 'Fantatastic Voyage' that had the redeeming value of Racquel Welch but was otherwise lame). Fantastic Voyage would be excellent in 3D and with other current special effects.

A remake of Fantastic Voyage is already in the works.

[navvet]

Yes, The Fugitive was entertaining, but it was only partly similar to the TV series. That is, in the series, Richard Kimble's wife was killed when she wandered down the stairs as the one-armed man was burglarizing the house. He killed her to keep her quiet. In the movie, her murder was premeditated, and the end result of a vast conspiracy involving medical research fraud.
Maybe I'm a little too picky, but I have very fond memories of The Fugitive, with David Janssen. Every episode ended in a cliffhanger. The spirit of the show just couldn't be captured in a two-hour movie.

[ballyhoo]

...:confused:

just saw a trailer for this today. are you f'n serious?? :mad::mad:

what's next? I'll put my money on a Humpty Dumpty movie! :D

"Dumpty Gots Pushed" starring Will Smith as Humpty. :thumbsup:

[DTravel]

...:confused:

just saw a trailer for this today. are you f'n serious?? :mad::mad:

what's next? I'll put my money on a Humpty Dumpty movie! :D

"Dumpty Gots Pushed" starring Will Smith as Humpty. :thumbsup:

Compared to the movies being made based on the game Battleship (yes, as in "You sank my battleship!") and the old Viewmaster toy, I'd say those are pretty close to the cream of the crop these days. :rolleyes:

BTW, the Battleship movie is currently filming, directed by Peter Berg and starring Alexander Skarsgard, Tadanobu Asano, Taylor Kitsch and Liam Neeson. Expect it in your local theater starting May 18 2012. And yes, I am serious. :cool:

[MaxJoker]

Desperate Disney are now looking to crank out a remake of Black Hole :(

Directed unfortunately by the wassock who helped make Tron Legacy the film it is today :mad:


A film that looks very good but has one of the most poorly constructed scripts i`ve ever heard , is full of mostly bored looking characters and one obviously computer generated unemotional unconvincing actor !

I am of course talking of Garrett Hedlund :D

Pictured here being easily upstaged by a microphone :thumbsup:

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[Mr Bond]

My favourite REMAKE is this one, from Ben-hur. Sure, there's not Mister Heston on. But... :D

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[spitalhouse]

I find it difficult to imagine a scenario in which a producer, writer, director or actor sits down one afternoon to watch the original version of either Psycho, The Wicker Man or The Taking Of Pelham 123 and at the end of it concludes that what he's just seen is so flawed or lacking in some crucial element that it needs to be made all over again.

Let's see now, how can Psycho be made even better? Why, of course, by re-filming it shot-by-shot, frame-by-frame and word-by-word exactly like the original - only this time in colour.

How to improve The Wicker Man? By transposing the location from a remote Scottish island to a remote American one. And a good way of undermining the very essence of what the original film was actually meant to be about is to change the history of the central character and the circumstances that led to him arriving there in the first place, which means that he is no longer motivated by a sense of duty which increasingly becomes a moral crusade, but only by the desire to save his daughter from the clutches of a bunch of nutters.

And The Taking Of Pelham 123 is without doubt vastly improved by essentially giving us the same plot with a few unnecessary extra twists and having Denzel Washington and John Travolta playing the roles originally designated to those second-raters Walter Matthau and Robert Shaw.

Regards.

[Avallanius]

Nothing excuses The Blues brothers 2000


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It's just so wrong on every level.

[Mal Hombre]

Nothing excuses The Blues brothers 2000


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It's just so wrong on every level.
To be fair that's not a crappy unnecessary remake,it's a crappy unnecessary sequel:D

[highflame]

I am so tired of remakes, especially movies that do not need to be remade. If anything, it's the sucky movies that nobody liked that should be remade,made better and make it work this time around. I thought that was the original point of remakes.

That said, John Carpenter's The Thing(1982), Martin Scorsese's Cape Fear as was already mentioned, Cronenberg's The Fly(1986), De Palma's Scarface(1983), hell I liked the underrated 80s remake of The Blob(1988).:thumbsup:

But as you can see, all the best remakes were 20+ years ago, now it's all about profit, and nothing else. Big Hollywood is not interested in anything but profit, as long as the sheeple keep going...:(


OK, IMO, two more recent exceptions ,at least for me, are Peter Jackson's King Kong(2005) and The Dark Knight(2008).:thumbsup:

[Mr Bond]

Yeah, True Grit 2010 is a good movie.
But why a remake ? :mad:

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[monogroover]

I can think of one brilliant remake, but it was made by the the same director who made the first. Hitchcock's 1956 version of The Man Who Knew Too Much.

Most remakes are poor, to be sure. The Italian Job and Get Carter spring to mind. Awful.

[monogroover]

I find it difficult to imagine a scenario in which a producer, writer, director or actor sits down one afternoon to watch the original version of either Psycho, The Wicker Man or The Taking Of Pelham 123 and at the end of it concludes that what he's just seen is so flawed or lacking in some crucial element that it needs to be made all over again.

In principle I don't object to remakes. I was pleased for example when I heard that The Day The Earth Stood Still was going to be remade. Because, while the original is a brilliant film, we could have had a version updated to the present day to be relevant to a modern audience, in colour, with clever and subtle use of special effects. It really could have been a very special new interpretation, potentially. I'd felt that it was ripe for a remake for a long time.

Of course it turned out to be pants. An opportunity wasted.

As soon as I heard that Denzel Washington was going to play the Matthau character in Pelham 123 I knew it would be a waste of time, and I didn't bother watching it. More or less the whole point of that film is that Garber is a world-weary and curmudgeonly ordinary transit authority cop. Having an archetypal Hollywood handsome leading man take that part completely robs the film of that dynamic.

[MaxJoker]

Yeah, True Grit 2010 is a good movie.
But why a remake ? :mad:

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Recently watched that film myself 007 , and strange as it might seem apart from the underlining story and the lead character looking quite similar in garb. I felt everything else was as different from the Dukes classic as you could imagine . A very gritty warts an all western epic that shows it how it was back then. Or at least how we all believe it to have been. Is much closer to Charles Portis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Grit_%28novel%29) excellent novel . Fact this sort or semi remake is now my favourite western :thumbsup:

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net .............. "I'm getting too old for this ****." A whole bunch of remakes, yes more of them, in development at Warner Bros just made themselves known thanks to an exec leaving the company. THR (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/lethal-weapon-wild-bunch-reboots-73493) reports that an executive VP at the studio named Jessica Goodman left and her projects that she was working will move to other execs. So what did she have? In addition to remakes of The Dirty Dozen, Oh God and Tarzan (some of which we have heard about before), other remakes she was working on were Lethal Weapon, Westworld and The Wild Bunch. Too many remakes, give it a rest! But that's not it, as some of them are in active development.

First up, if you remember, there was a Lethal Weapon 5 in development for a while (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/so-its-true-lethal-weapon-5-on-the-fast-track/) , but with all the recent Mel Gibson madness, that fell apart before it could get too far. Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/warner-bros-sets-gangster-squad-scribe-for-lethal-weapon-reboot/) reports that instead, Joel Silver is producing and up-and-comer Will Beall ("Castle", Gangster Squad) is writing a take that will "relaunch the buddy cop series with a new cast." Beall is a former LA police officer who patrolled South Central and also wrote the novel L.A. Rex (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001G8WSFA/firstshowingn-20) . Apparently this remake will at least be a "hard R-rated edgy street cop movie," which is great to hear, but it will still be a police procedural with a "mismatched pair of detectives" again.

The only other details THR mentions are in regards to the Westworld and The Wild Bunch and what they might do for a remake, but even that is speculative and it sounds like all we've got area names of the movies and that's it. Westworld is the 1973 sci-fi western "where robot men and women are programmed to serve you" that would be a fun update. The Wild Bunch is Sam Peckinpah's classic 1969 western, which shouldn't even be remade to begin with, but there's not much we can do about it. Are westerns really that popular now or is this just what was in the works with this specific exec? We'll let you know if we find that answer.

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[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net .......... Last September we found out that director John Woo was in the midst of planning a remake (http://www.firstshowing.net/2010/john-woo-remaking-le-samourai-his-own-film-the-killer/) of his own 1989 Hong Kong police action flick The Killer. At the time it sounded like Woo was going to tackle the remake itself, but today Essential Entertainment and Lion Rock Productions revealed Korean director (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0497565/bio) John H. Lee (A Moment to Remember) will be at the helm of the English-language remake. For those who aren't die-hard Woo fans, the original film follows an elite Asian assassin who risks everything to protect a beautiful singer that he unintentionally blinded, but can only do so with the help of an LAPD detective trying to catch him.

In addition, Jung Woo-Sung (The Good, the Bad, the Weird) will star in this remake (more of the cast will be announced soon) with John Woo producing the film himself. Fans may be skeptical, but Woo sounds excited about the remake's potential. The director says, "While all my films are special to me, The Killer is truly one of my favorites. We are thrilled to reinvent it as an English-language film and know it’s in capable hands by the incredible visual style and tender emotion John H. Lee brings to all his films.” I'm not sure if a 3D, English-language remake is going to excite Woo's biggest fans, but there's not much they can do now.

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[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net ............ This is bound to rub plenty of fans the wrong way, but don't shoot the messenger. Summit Entertainment has been working on a remake of the fantasy film Highlander with producer Neal H. Moritz since 2008. When the rights were picked up, a script followed by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway (two of the writers of Iron Man) with revisions by Cormac and Marianne Sellek Wibberley (the duo behind National Treasure). Now THR (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/twilight-writer-melissa-rosenberg-takes-97481) reports that Twilight Saga screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg is taking over the script with a new take on the story of a Scottish swordsman, who discovers he is part of a secret race of near-immortal beings.

The epic fantasy had our hero battling an unstoppable barbarian who covets the power gained from there being only one of near-immortal beings left alive. That's a far cry from sparkly vampires and melodramatic romance, but there has been some action in The Twilight Saga, so it's not entirely out of left field. In addition, Rosenberg was also a writer and co-executive producer on "Dexter," so her abilities are probably far beyond her work in Twilight. Here's hoping she finds a way to work in Queen's song Princes of the Universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw) , the opening credits song from the original film.

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[Mr Bond]

From GreenSkull
Recently watched that film myself 007 , and strange as it might seem apart from the underlining story and the lead character looking quite similar in garb. I felt everything else was as different from the Dukes classic as you could imagine . A very gritty warts an all western epic that shows it how it was back then. Or at least how we all believe it to have been. Is much closer to Charles Portis excellent novel . Fact this sort or semi remake is now my favourite western

Of course, GreenSkull, it's a good movie. The story is good. Recently watched that film myself. But Why a remake ? I know it's much closer to Portis novel, I read this book years ago.
But when Directors do a remake, they often tell us " it's not a remake. I work from the book... "
I think it's an " excuse ".
Why not a good Western, directed by Cohen bros, with Jeff, with action, but not a remake. Why not a film with an unknow hero ? Publicity. They want a title well know to make " impact " in our poor head.
Everybody speak about True Grit 2010. But, in the same time, they talk about Duke... Good publicity...
True Grit with wayne was a classic. Why not a " semi-remake " of The man who shoot Liberty Valance, Five Card Stud, The sons of K. Elder ( with a song title by Madonna :confused: ) or Rio Bravo, or, or.....
Why not an Original Movie, with Original story ?
Look Open Range. I think a very good western with strong men. But not a remake.
Or semi-remake :D :D:D:D:D:D

[scoundrel]

In addition, Rosenberg was also a writer and co-executive producer on "Dexter," so her abilities are probably far beyond her work in Twilight.

Yep. Dexter was very good television. Twilight etc were poor cinema. People who hadn't read the books didn't understand half of what went on in the films. People who had read the books wondered why the task of adapting them for the big screen was given to someone who clearly neither understood nor liked the books, and thought she could tell a story a lot better than the original author, who has only sold about 100 million copies globally, so far...

Ms Rosenberg seems to me to be a lot better at creating her own work than adapting the work of others, and that's as it should be. The problem with re-makes is that they are uncreative.

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net ......... The last time I laid down the law on an unnecessary remake it was Paramount's decision to remake (http://www.firstshowing.net/2010/this-weeks-unnecessary-remake-soapdish-from-paramount/) the 1991 ensemble comedy Soapdish (which also just gained the writer (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ben-schwartz-pen-soapdish-remake-160771) Ben Schwartz). Now this time the unnecessary remake machine has been started up at Warner Bros. with Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/warner-bros-remakes-the-bodyguard/) saying the studio will redo the 1992 hit film The Bodyguard. The original film followed Kevin Costner as a Secret Service agent who is drafted to protect a singing diva (Whitney Houston) whose life is threatened by a dangerous stalker. But the bodyguard wasn't counting on falling in love with the diva and distracting him from sufficiently doing his job. Read on!

Apparently this new version (written by newcomers Jeremiah Friedman and Nick Palmer) still fits along those same lines but the bodyguard has been changed to a former Iraq war veteran who gets the job as his first responsibility after leaving the army. In this recreation the advancements of Twitter and Google Maps along with the invasive gossip mongers at TMZ has made access to celebrities easier and thus more dangerous and difficult for bodyguards to do their job. Apparently the studio aims to bring in a young female singer with global appeal and skyrocket her screen fame in the same way Whitney Houston launched her acting career. I'd say Beyoncé would be a prime choice for this project, but she's already doing A Star is Born (http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/clint-eastwood-set-to-direct-beyonce-in-remake-of-a-star-is-born/) . There's nothing left to say except that I could not care less about this project, but a good director could change my mind.

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[MaxJoker]

I feel sick fellow brother members , sick to my stomach :(

Or maybe i should say " I`m sick to me ball bags me old dangling tender balls bags " , since that how the star of this most depressing and most worthless of remakes became famous in this country :mad:

When i first heard about it i didn`t believe it , and when they told me who`d be starring i thought them mad :eek:

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But it`s true , the super inventive and original creative talents in the movie industry have only gone and remade Arthur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_%281981_film%29) :confused:

With this utter tosser in the lead role :mad:

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Bad enough they`ve remade that un- remake-able classic !

But it goes beyond the sacrilegious to replace Dud with that Turd (The R is silent , which is how i wish Russell would forever remain) .

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Here`s the trailer for the new Arthur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7tQQ56wEJ0)

I only managed to last 23 seconds before i had to close it down :mad:

Maybe you`ll be able to last longer :(

It`s also safe to say i`m in a bit of a bad mood right now :mad:

Seriously has there been a worse re-make than this :confused:

:(:thumbsup:

[Norbert84]

Remakes should be treated as crimes against humanity. Some past remakes were worth being updated like Cape Fear but I can't stand these new fast food-movie remakes. Don't waste your money and intellect.

[MaxJoker]

Remakes should be treated as crimes against humanity. Some past remakes were worth being updated like Cape Fear but I can't stand these new fast food-movie remakes. Don't waste your money and intellect.

I agree with you on how remakes should be treated . But much prefer the original Gregory Peck / Robert Mitchum cape fear to the Scorsese one. Mostly as i think it was miscast. Not that Robert De Niro and Nick Nolte aren`t very good . But for me i`d have much preferred to have seen De Niro as the fractured family man lawyer and Nolte as the unstoppable Cady.

Now that would have been a worthy remake :cool:

[Norbert84]

But you have to admit Robert De Niro was fucking sick. I don't know, Nick Nolte always plays calm roles. His appearance in Lorenzo's Oil was somehow a revival of his role in Cape Fear.

[MaxJoker]

But you have to admit Robert De Niro was fucking sick. I don't know, Nick Nolte always plays calm roles. His appearance in Lorenzo's Oil was somehow a revival of his role in Cape Fear.

If you want sick , or at least superbly sadistic then you should check out Noltes performance in (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q%26A_%28film%29)


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Because Lt. Mike Brennan makes Max Cady look like a papal candidate by comparison :D

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[Norbert84]

Thanks for recommending it. That moustache looks evil. :D

[grossnex]

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This is a movie that I actually was wishing they would remake since I saw the original film. Although the original was extremely violent at times, it was too campy for my taste. There's absolutely no lighthearted moments in the remake & the kills are much more inventive than the original's.

If you've seen the original, then you know about the bathtub scene. The remake actually made that scene better. :thumbsup:

The final scene makes it worth sitting through the movie as well. :cool:

Overall I give it 1 thumbs up. :thumbsup:

The acting was just downright terrible. The kills made the movie. ;)

[mrcat]

I Think Cape Fear is a very fine film, (both versions) i remember J Lee Thompson, the director of the original film, said Martin Scorsese had made a far better version because of the very strict censorship at that time. He could get away with far more. J Lee Thompson had so many battles with the censor, that it even got into the Press! There were many cuts made to the original, well over 100 in fact! I do agree, most remakes just don't work. but Cape Fear and The Thing are exceptions. Hammer films for example, were treated with more respect in America than in England. They always admired British Horror, and were blown away by the fact they were made on small budgets, and yet looked Lavish all the same. Incredible!

[MaxJoker]

An engaging class acting demonstration :cool:


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A bloody awful abomination :mad:

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:D :thumbsup:

[ballyhoo]

But much prefer the original Gregory Peck / Robert Mitchum cape fear to the Scorsese one.
Robert Mitchum was in both films, right? :)

I don't know, Nick Nolte always plays calm roles.
Nick wasn't so calm in 48 hours! ;)


regardless, I agree with you both on remakes. I hate them quite frankly. Steve Martin needs
a beating for doing the Pink Panther stuff! and Russell Brand in Arthur?? :mad:

[mrcat]

Robert Mitchum was in both films. in the remake he played the detective investigating cady!

[MaxJoker]

Steve Martin needs
a beating for doing the Pink Panther stuff! :mad:

Well if they`d locked him up after making Sgt Bilko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Bilko) like i campaigned for , those Panther films would never have happened :D

Films :eek:

Still can`t believe they made a sequel :confused:

[Night Haunter]

Though I like Denzel Washington I thought the Taking of Pelham 1,2,3 was a load of crap! :(

The Coen Brothers said True Grit wasn't a remake.. but it was, and it wasn't much cop either.. though Jeff Bridges was good! :(

Arthur with Russell Brand... I'm not even going there :mad:

....and now I hear they've done Conan the Barbarian and Westworld... guess we'll just have to wait and see!! :eek:

[MaxJoker]

Though I like Denzel Washington I thought the Taking of Pelham 1,2,3 was a load of crap! :(

I`ve seen more entertaining leaking septic tanks :D


The Coen Brothers said True Grit wasn't a remake.. but it was, and it wasn't much cop either.

Got to disagree with you there as it wasn`t so much a remake as a sincere interpretation of the original book . So in my opinion well worth it :cool:

Arthur with Russell Brand... I'm not even going there :mad:

Anyone see the bastard being interviewed at the premiere to that shite fest :D
Talk about an utter pretentious dick head :D like we didn`t all already know :D

The vast majority of reviews have been very negative also :cool:

....and now I hear they've done Conan the Barbarian and Westworld... guess we'll just have to wait and see!! :eek:

Can`t see why they bothered really as they`re unlikely to find an actor as menacing as James Earl Jones :confused:

[Mal Hombre]

Can`t see why they bothered really as they`re unlikely to find an actor as menacing as James Earl Jones :confused:
You got that right GS...
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[SpermShooter]

The one I hate the most is Ron Moore's remake of Battlestar Galactica, a total waste of film. It has to be the most boring show in television history, including 60 minutes.

[DTravel]

Can`t see why they bothered really as they`re unlikely to find an actor as menacing as James Earl Jones :confused:

It gets better. The actor they've hired to play Conan is .... Jason Momoa (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0597388/).

If you've never heard of him, well, neither has pretty much anyone else. He's best known for being a regular on Stargate: Atlantis. (And no, I don't expect many of you have heard of that either.)

[Norbert84]

I think he was also in Baywatch Hawaii.

[Davemetalhead]

And Game of Thrones.

I think he'd make a pretty good Conan.

[MaxJoker]

And Game of Thrones.

I think he'd make a pretty good Conan.

I like Sean Bean but haven`t watched that yet , is it like the reviews say the Sopranos with swords :cool: :thumbsup:

In other words is it excellent :D

[Davemetalhead]

Only two episodes in so far in the UK. It's not bad, nothing special so far. Quite a bit of nudity and swearing so it's defo an adult only show.

It has the makings of being a classic, must-see show, just not there yet.

[moonsung]

First of all, I thought this was a porn remake forum, but, whatever. "13 Assassins" (2010), directed by Takeshi Miike is unbelievable. A remake of an obscure 1967 samurai film, that outweighs all the 47 ronin films, Miike proves he is the best director since "ET" Spielberg (or "Jaws"), as well as Jerzy Skolimowski's "The Shout". Or that crazy Barcelona flick, "Arrebato".

Miike's next remake is of "Harakiri". A Kobayashi classic. But, now, in 3 fuckin D! Samurai, chanbarra in 3-D. I can't wait.

[John C. Holmes]

Arthur with Russell Brand... I'm not even going there :mad:


I'll go there!

The critics were ALL calling the 1981 version with Dudley Moore a "classic". I remember when that movie was in the theatres and saw it at the time and a few times since and frankly the only thing "classic" about it was the fact that it is over 30 years old. (Sorry, I love Dudley and Liza but since when is Christopher Cross "classic"?)

Having said that I saw one picture of Brand's Arthur in rehab in the local papers' review and said, "NOT going to waste my time or money".

Of course Brand gets to squeeze Katy Perry's DD's and I don't so going any further with that one is also a waste of breath...

[ballyhoo]

The critics were ALL calling the 1981 version with Dudley Moore a "classic". I remember when that movie was in the theatres and saw it at the time and a few times since and frankly the only thing "classic" about it was the fact that it is over 30 years old.
I saw it in the theater too. when were critics calling it a classic? 30 years ago? :confused:

I just remember critics comparing it to "10" (no mention of "Wholly Moses!"). if the critics
are calling it a classic now, that's because it is a classic! :thumbsup:
since when is Christopher Cross "classic"?
ever since Cross became a staple on light "oldies" stations. you don't like "Sailing"?? ;)
Of course Brand gets to squeeze Katy Perry's DD's
he better enjoy them while they're still there for the squeezing! :D

[John C. Holmes]

Regarding a "Casablanca" re-make: Here in the States, years ago they tried making a TV show version of the film. Bogie's role was played by none other than David "Hutch" Soul. I'm not kidding. The show flopped.

At the height of "Bennifer Mania" apparently Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez convinced Bruckheimer to GREEN LIGHT their remake of Casablanca with them in the lead roles. Thankfully for the health of mankind they broke up before preproduction could begin. (I did some looking around after my original post about this and apparently this WAS slated to actually happen until Gigli tanked and Bennifer with it.)

[John C. Holmes]

I saw it in the theater too. when were critics calling it a classic? 30 years ago? :confused:

I just remember critics comparing it to "10" (no mention of "Wholly Moses!"). if the critics
are calling it a classic now, that's because it is a classic! :thumbsup:

No, I'm referring to how the critics have spoken of Arthur since Arthur 2: On The Rocks was released in 1988. (Yes even in 1988 they were calling it a classic.)

It was a good movie but 1980-1982 were such horrible years for movies, (aside from all the softcore goodness that came out of the fratboy era,) that this one only looks good compared to the crap we were served back then in mass quantities. (Flicks that made Michael Bay look like Hitchcock.)

ever since Cross became a staple on light "oldies" stations. you don't like "Sailing"?? ;)

Yes, 'Think of Laura' is right up there with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon... :eek:

[John C. Holmes]

One remake that NOBODY mentions is Shanghai Noon!! This was actually a remake of Sammo Hung's Millionaire Express. (Now known as Shanghai Express in the US.) As great as Jackie Chan is in Shanghai Noon NOTHING could ever match the fight scene between Cynthia Rothrock and Sammo Hung.

[cybertron71289]

I hear they're remaking The Warriors. I won't be going near that with a barge pole.

Also, on the subject of remakes, Let Me In. Now when this came out I was pissed off to no end, as, having fallen in love with both the book, Let The Right One In and the Swedish film adaptation of the same name, I could not bare the thought of Hollywood destroying it as they do with the majority of classics they get their grubby hands on. Having said that, I've heard that it's actually pretty good for a remake. Are there any fans of the original film and/or book who've also seen the remake that can give me an educated opinion?

[MaxJoker]

Just heard the sickener to end all sickener's :(

Supposedly it`s being claimed that the couple of years ago proposed remake of Drop Dead Fred might be going ahead now after all , and starring that unfunny walking genital wart Brand .

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First off why think of financing a remake of what was a total turkey that couldn`t even be saved by the presence of the cutest actress of her generation :confused:

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Although if somebody is stupid enough to remake that disaster why in hairy hell would you cast that annoying arsehole in the lead :confused:

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Especially after his atrocious showing in Arthur :eek::confused::eek:

Sooooo not happy :mad:

[grossnex]

Drop Dead Fred? Drop Dead Fred?!! Holy crap man. Hopefully, this remake will be what makes Brand's career drop dead. The only claim to fame that movie ever had was proving that a brother can masturbate to a comedy no matter how unfunny it is. :D


I hear the ultimate act of sacrilege is in the works:

Hellraiser
Clive Barker’s classic is coming back to the big screen, this time in the hands of writer/director Pascal Laugier. However, it’s still some way from getting to the screen, given Laugier’s commitment to another project first. 2011 would, therefore, be a good guess for a new Hellraiser project.

Since remakes made Jason suddenly start running & turned Freddy into a Down Syndrome victim, will they remove the pins from Pinhead's head & replace them with dildos dipped in honey? :D

Oh for f**k's sake...:rolleyes:

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net ............. The last bit of major casting we heard for the remake of Arnold Schwarzenegger's sci-fi action flick Total Recall had Kate Beckinsale pegged as one of the female leads (http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/kate-beckinsale-likely-joining-colin-farrell-in-total-recall-remake/) set to collaborate again with her husband and Underworld director Len Wiseman. Now Collider (http://collider.com/kate-beckinsale-jessica-biel-total-recall/92933/) has confirmed that Beckinsale has officially joined the cast, and that Jessica Biel has taken the other major female role in the remake. Beckinsale will play Lori, the wife of Farrell's protagonist character while Biel will play Melina, another character who might know him better than Lori. In addition, Heat Vision (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bill-nighy-star-opposite-colin-192396) has learned Bill Nighy (Love Actually) has also signed on.

Nighy will play Quatto, the leader of the resistance in the story that ditches the original Mars setting of the story for two nation states called Euroamerica and New Shanghai where Colin Farrell, a factory worker, comes to believe he's a spy, but he doesn't know for which side. In the original, Nighy's character was called Kuato, and ended up being a vessel being controlled by a small mutant inside of his body. I'm not sure if this film will be as exciting without the science fiction elements from the original, but perhaps some will still be there if it takes place in a distant future. We'll have to wait and see.

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[MaxJoker]

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No joke , Warner Bros have acquired the rights and they`re in discussion with David Mandel, who is writing the upcoming much anticipated (:rolleyes:) Sacha Baron Cohen comedy The Dictator .

:confused::(:confused:

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:mad:

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Telling you if i even hear a whisper of a rumour that Brand is in the frame to play the lead i`ll top myself :mad:

[blueballsdc]

I loved the Fletch books and was horrified when they made the two movies with Chevy Chase. They almost ruined it for me. Both Fletch movies are on my list of worst movies ever. I would love to see a remake made but kept faithful to the books and with somebody that can actually act in the role.

[hobbs]

CGI effects are now at the level where when they are done right, they can create images that look absolutely real on screen.

A lot of 50's - 70's sci-fi movies suffered because the special effects technology of the day simply could not deliver the quality needed to make the movie believable. It was partly a matter of budget but even the best of them look dated now.

The movie that suffers the most IMO is "Quatermass and the Pit" (aka " 5 Million Years to Earth" USA title). This is a first rate very intelligent film that neatly ties together science fiction with the occult and the supernatural. Sadly, the effects and "alien" designs are hopelessly dated to the point of being laughable. It's the best they could do with limited budget and the technology of the time.

I would love to see the film re-made keeping the story and script virtually the same with a good cast (no "hollywood-izing" no Shia Labeouf, no Keanu Reeves) and using some smartly applied well designed CGI to give us believable visual effects. (If it were up to me, I'd put H. R. Giger in charge of CGI.) A remade "Quatermass and the Pit" could be one of the scariest and best sci-fi films ever.

[Lurk_D]

from firstshowing.net ............. The last bit of major casting we heard for the remake of Arnold Schwarzenegger's sci-fi action flick Total Recall had Kate Beckinsale pegged as one of the female leads (http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/kate-beckinsale-likely-joining-colin-farrell-in-total-recall-remake/) set to collaborate again with her husband and Underworld director Len Wiseman. Now Collider (http://collider.com/kate-beckinsale-jessica-biel-total-recall/92933/) has confirmed that Beckinsale has officially joined the cast, and that Jessica Biel has taken the other major female role in the remake. Beckinsale will play Lori, the wife of Farrell's protagonist character while Biel will play Melina, another character who might know him better than Lori. In addition, Heat Vision (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bill-nighy-star-opposite-colin-192396) has learned Bill Nighy (Love Actually) has also signed on.

Nighy will play Quatto, the leader of the resistance in the story that ditches the original Mars setting of the story for two nation states called Euroamerica and New Shanghai where Colin Farrell, a factory worker, comes to believe he's a spy, but he doesn't know for which side. In the original, Nighy's character was called Kuato, and ended up being a vessel being controlled by a small mutant inside of his body. I'm not sure if this film will be as exciting without the science fiction elements from the original, but perhaps some will still be there if it takes place in a distant future. We'll have to wait and see.

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Why, oh why couldn't they just adapt the original story, "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale"? If was far better than 'Ahnuld's film anyway. And just think; being twenty plus years later, they don't have to change Quail's name because it would make a stupid, unpopular vice-president look 'bad.'

[renno61]

what about the new conan movie? seen arnie version nothing like the books or 1932 magazines yet people go on about it.cheapen down scenes such as the finding of the atlantean sword.

You should always read source before making such movies.
Tulsa doom? comes from R e Howards kull books not conan.
Thoth-Amon is the main villian of the books ,not the Pat RoachS version
sayin that still better than Ralf Möller version:mad:

[Mal Hombre]

I would love to see the film re-made keeping the story and script virtually the same with a good cast (no "hollywood-izing" no Shia Labeouf, no Keanu Reeves) and using some smartly applied well designed CGI to give us believable visual effects. (If it were up to me, I'd put H. R. Giger in charge of CGI.) A remade "Quatermass and the Pit" could be one of the scariest and best sci-fi films ever.
Or just replace the fx in the original,There was talk a while ago,about "Re-Monstering" classic movies such as The Devil Rides Out.That's not likely though and a British accented remake is not much more so.

[Norbert84]

What, they're filming a remake of Total Recall? When you think it can't get more stupid, it does. When will people get tired of this ridiculous overproduction in cinema industry?

[LWilko1982]

Seriously Colin Farrell as Quaid big casting error there, they'd have been better off with Tom Hardy who originally auditioned for the role especially if he jacked up again like he did for Bronson

[shodan2011]

Nighy will play Quatto, the leader of the resistance in the story that ditches the original Mars setting of the story for two nation states called Euroamerica and New Shanghai where Colin Farrell, a factory worker, comes to believe he's a spy, but he doesn't know for which side. In the original, Nighy's character was called Kuato, and ended up being a vessel being controlled by a small mutant inside of his body. I'm not sure if this film will be as exciting without the science fiction elements from the original, but perhaps some will still be there if it takes place in a distant future. We'll have to wait and see.

http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc405/th_36969_total_recall_123_405lo.jpg (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=36969_total_recall_123_405lo.jpg)

So in other words, it's not going to bear any resemblance to the original story? Sounds delightful. :eek: :(

[MaxJoker]

So in other words, it's not going to bear any resemblance to the original story? Sounds delightful. :eek: :(

No resemblance ? , what so you mean that woman with the big tits isn`t going to be in the remake either :(


http://img216.imagevenue.com/loc523/th_65179_Arnoldbitchtits_123_523lo.jpg (http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65179_Arnoldbitchtits_123_523lo.jpg)


:D

[thedizzle]

CGI effects are now at the level where when they are done right, they can create images that look absolutely real on screen.

A lot of 50's - 70's sci-fi movies suffered because the special effects technology of the day simply could not deliver the quality needed to make the movie believable. It was partly a matter of budget but even the best of them look dated now.

The movie that suffers the most IMO is "Quatermass and the Pit" (aka " 5 Million Years to Earth" USA title). This is a first rate very intelligent film that neatly ties together science fiction with the occult and the supernatural. Sadly, the effects and "alien" designs are hopelessly dated to the point of being laughable. It's the best they could do with limited budget and the technology of the time.

I would love to see the film re-made keeping the story and script virtually the same with a good cast (no "hollywood-izing" no Shia Labeouf, no Keanu Reeves) and using some smartly applied well designed CGI to give us believable visual effects. (If it were up to me, I'd put H. R. Giger in charge of CGI.) A remade "Quatermass and the Pit" could be one of the scariest and best sci-fi films ever.
I would love to see some of the old sci-fi movies remade with today's technology. But sadly, they would probably be "Hollywoodized" like you said. Yeah, the effects may make some of the movies seem cheesy now, but there were many movies of that era with great scripts and plot lines.

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net ........... Leatherface is back from the dead again! Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118039305?categoryid=4076&cs=1&cmpid=RSS|News|FilmNews) is reporting that Lionsgate has schedule a release date of October 5th, 2012 for the upcoming horror remake/reboot The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D. The project has been around for a little while and production is already underway. The film is basically a direct sequel to Tobe Hooper's classic 1974 film, but of course will be in 3D and, as producer Carl Mazzocone explains, they're trying to make it "as horrifying as the original, in 3D." John Luessenhop (of Lockdown, Takers) is directing and the only cast so far is Bill Moseley, a fan fave from Texas Chainsaw Massacre II.

According to some recent updates (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/25124) , this Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D will follow the character, Heather, who along with her friends, travels to Texas in order to collect an inheritance, but apparently finds out she's related to Leatherface. Lionsgate just picked up distribution rights to this back in May, and production is only just beginning. "I'm excited to re-conceive this iconic horror classic in a contemporary setting for a new generation of horror fans to enjoy," Mazzocone said. I'm not really expecting great things out of this, but I'll be curious to see how they ramp up the horror in 3D, though I'm expecting it to probably be a little cheesy.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Texas_Chainsaw_Massacre_%28franchise%29) franchise has been all over the place, with numerous sequels to the original from 1971, then a franchise reboot through Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes, resulting in Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning in 2006. Now they're rebooting it once again, I have no clue why, and it's in 3D, which doesn't seem to be what people are really excited to see anymore. We'll have to see how this turns out.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q229/tony20stewart06/Movies/texas_chainsaw_massacre.jpg

[blueballsdc]

I saw the trailer for the remake of Footloose a couple of nights ago. It looks so awful it is difficult to describe. The "actress" playing the female lead, Julianne Hough or some such, is attractive but can't act to save her life. And she isn't the worst one of the bunch.

I hope it tanks.

[John C. Holmes]

I saw the trailer for the remake of Footloose a couple of nights ago. It looks so awful it is difficult to describe. The "actress" playing the female lead, Julianne Hough or some such, is attractive but can't act to save her life. And she isn't the worst one of the bunch.

I hope it tanks.

When the modern day god of lameass showtune singers opts out of the project, (Zac Effron,) you KNOW this has trainwreck written all over it.

As for the new TCM, at least Michael Bay isn't there to ruin it this time...

[blueballsdc]

When the modern day god of lameass showtune singers opts out of the project, (Zac Effron,) you KNOW this has trainwreck written all over it.

As for the new TCM, at least Michael Bay isn't there to ruin it this time...

Maybe they could have given the Footloose remake to Michael Bay. Then I think it could have been interesting.

[John C. Holmes]

Only if Bay promises to blow the cast and producers up and films it...

[hansvon]

from techdirt.com .............. from the nothing-new-under-the-sun dept

We keep hearing about how the entertainment industry needs strong copyright in order to create incentives for the creation of new and original content, saying that without (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110527/11550014461/ima-fishs-favorite-techdirt-posts-week.shtml#c1232) such things, there would be no new creative works at all. And, at the same time, we have the very same people mocking (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110701/18072314938/funniestmost-insightful-comments-week-techdirt.shtml#c318) any cultural attempts to build new content by remixing and mashing up old works into something new. So I'm curious to see how those same people explain the fact that Hollywood's entire focus these days seems to be on taking old works and redoing them (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/08/01/creativity-crisis-has-remake-obsessed-hollywood-run-out-new-ideas/?test=faces) rather than creating new and "unique" stories:

In fact, over the next 12 months, audiences can expect to see a new episode or version of "Planet of the Apes,"” “Spider-Man,” “Fright Night,” “The Great Gatsby,” “When Worlds Collide,” “RoboCop,” “Don’t Be Afraid of the Dark,” “The Thing,” “Creature from the Black Lagoon,” “The Raven,” “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” “Red Dawn” and “Footloose.”

And deja vu happens when you turn the television on too.

This fall ABC are bringing back the 1970s series “Charlie’s Angels,” FOX is awakening “The Flintstones,” MTV has its hands on “Teen Wolf,” and we’ve already been slapped with Aaron Spelling’s “90210” and “Melrose Place” on the CW, while NBC re-imagined “The Bionic Woman” and “Knight Rider.”

But Hollywood is producing all these wonderful "new" and creative works, right? And remixing old works isn't creative at all?

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc29/jadyneeskyy/Footloose.jpg

[John C. Holmes]

And they wonder why industry people don't consider network tv a growth industry anymore...

[mikami]

I love the 1975 Canadian slasher film Black Christmas- I find it genuinely eerie and creepy and it never fails to make me feel uneasy when I've finished watching it...the 2006 'remake' however, is one of the top 5 worst films I've ever seen! It has none of the brilliantly bleak and desolate atmosphere of the original, no mystery, no scares, terrible acting, a cheesy storyline...there are a couple of decent looking girls in the cast though, so I guess it wasn't *all* bad!

I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but unfortunately the Wicker Man remake from '06 was a huge disappointment too. I didn't even make it to the end, it was so boring! The '73 original is another of my favourites, however. A beautiful film!

[Markus R]

The worst remake in history has to be Psycho. In the history of bad ideas this must top the list. It wouldn't have been as bad had they altered the dialogue/story to a degree but to shoot it shot for shot was just nonsensical.

The whole idea of the 'remake' fills me with dread where classic films are concerned. I think Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't too bad (never as good as the original mind). I beg to differ on Cape Fear though. I think the original is a far superior film than Scorcese's hyped up version (but hey, that is just my opinion:D).

The Haunting, Red Dragon and House of Wax were all pale imitations of the originals.

Apparently Jaws & The Warriors are to be remade. Noooooooooo........:(

[grossnex]

I'm not a big fan of remakes, but I can understand remaking certain movies with CGI now available to the studios. Clash of the Titans would be a good example. Great CGI, but a terrible movie IMHO. It didn't come close to measuring up to the original.

But can someone explain to me why they had to remake Conan? I thought it was already done about as well as can be. :confused:

[mart363]

I can't think of any remakes that have been better than the original, including remakes or remixes of music.

[Warren G]

Why? Why. Age, what else? Arnold is getting old, no longer attractive to females, and uncool since being a governor, but especially...a new (old) franchise to be exploited...

It's what Hollyweird thrives on nowadays. They've run out of new situations, so they re-exploit the old ones. Art is a laugh these days, money is the bottom line...

[Mal Hombre]

I can't think of any remakes that have been better than the original, including remakes or remixes of music.
Well the new Captain America movie is better than the terrible original and the new Judge Dredd hopefully will be.

[svga]

I can't think of any remakes that have been better than the original, including remakes or remixes of music.

Then you never heard Manfred Mann's Earth Band.

Demolition Man, Sting Cover (Didn't found the original):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBL3WhjiC4

Blinded by the Light, Bruce Springsteen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNi6EFJU8E8&feature=related
MMEB Cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJh47LybCkU

Mighty Quinn, Bob Dylan Cover (original version n/a in Germany):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCV2i__5x_Y&feature=related

... and there are many more

[tygrkhat40]

I can't think of any remakes that have been better than the original, including remakes or remixes of music.

Bill Monroe wrote the classic "Blue Moon of Kentucky" and Bob Dylan wrote "All Along the Watchtower." They did them in their style, "Blue Moon" as a waltz and "Watchtower" in Dylan's acoustic folk style.

Then they heard the covers, Elvis Presley's "Blue Moon of Kentucky" and Jimi Hendrix's "All Along the Watchtower." Monroe and Dylan did their songs in the style of the cover from then on.

[Markus R]

Yes, I am not a big fan of 'covers' but I think the Hendrix version of 'Watchtower' is something else.

[mart363]

Ok guys, i stand corrected.:o:D

[bitchassnigga_666]

Ok guys, i stand corrected.:o:D

got another one:

original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjwgYvzQWS4

cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho

imho the cover is better. a lot.

[mart363]

got another one:

original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjwgYvzQWS4

cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho

imho the cover is better. a lot.


I prefer the original, although the Johhny Cash version is pretty good.;)

[Mal Hombre]

I prefer Johnny's Version,The fact that He clearly was not long for this World gives it addded poignancy.

[OtisOne]

Yes, I am not a big fan of 'covers' but I think the Hendrix version of 'Watchtower' is something else.

I'm not a fan of them either, but this one knocked my socks off. I didn't think anybody could capture that ecstatic state that was Beatlemania, but Al Green does it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMH-m1Ej2xo

Check it out.

[KingKeigh]

I've come to the realization that there will always be some kind of remake. They've been around since the 30s and they'll continue to do it. The fact is alot of movies don't need to be remade. Some are perfect the way they are and others weren't worth making in the first place. Remaking a mediocre or ok movie to give the story or plot another shot at redemption or to change the environment or POV is a good reason. Remaking it to cash in on previous success using "flavor of the minute" actors and bad indie/dance/hip hop music is not.

I see they're doing "Footloose". I was kind of torn about that at first. The original is quintessential 80's cheese. But it's a timeless story that can be told over and over again. I just wish the trailer didn't look like they just pulled a "Psycho" and tried recreate scenes from the original. I respect remakes more when they reference themes rather than scenes.

However, I don't see the point in totally rebooting "Spiderman" except that they want to milk it for more cash. Seems like they wanted Sam Raimi out of the picture. Didn't he just make a shitload of money for them with the last three Spidey movies? What's up with that???

[blueballsdc]

But can someone explain to me why they had to remake Conan? I thought it was already done about as well as can be. :confused:

I am quite glad they are remaking Conan. I really disliked the Arnold movies. Not because of Arnold. I think he made a decent Conan. And both movies did have plenty of hot women in them. I hated them because they rewrote the Conan legend for the movies.

[Historian]

I'm not a fan of them either, but this one knocked my socks off. I didn't think anybody could capture that ecstatic state that was Beatlemania, but Al Green does it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMH-m1Ej2xo

Check it out.

I think the big thing with covers of songs is to ask whether it adds anything to the original- seeing a talented artist putting their own interpretation on someone else's song can be fascinating.

Most remakes of films, on the other hand seem to be little more than production companies taking the lazy route to making money at the box office- I can think of very few remakes I've watched that haven't left me thinking 'I wish I was watching the original'

Covers of songs- unless they're really bad ones- don't seem to have the same effect for me

[grossnex]

I am quite glad they are remaking Conan. I really disliked the Arnold movies. Not because of Arnold. I think he made a decent Conan. And both movies did have plenty of hot women in them. I hated them because they rewrote the Conan legend for the movies.

Well, I asked for it. :D

That's about the best possible answer anyone can give. The thing I liked about the old Conan though, was that it wasn't about Conan himself. It was about revenge in the 1st movie & the quest in the 2nd movie. I fear they're going to turn Conan into a one-liner waiting to happen. Something like him slicing a guy down the middle with a sword & saying, "I see you have a split personality..." :rolleyes:

Anyway, I don't understand why they have to tell the same basic story again, when they could just fill in the blanks from the legend. Both movie's even allude to more stories, but we never had another movie.

It is always nice when movies stay true to the written word. It's the reason why I can't stomach any Stephen King movie that I've read 1st. :thumbsup:

[Lurk_D]

Oh, the remake (hmm, where have I heard that word?) of The Shining blew the original away. And the original was Kubrick. It's just that the remake was adapted by King himself.

[KingKeigh]

I think the big thing with covers of songs is to ask whether it adds anything to the original- seeing a talented artist putting their own interpretation on someone else's song can be fascinating.

Most remakes of films, on the other hand seem to be little more than production companies taking the lazy route to making money at the box office- I can think of very few remakes I've watched that haven't left me thinking 'I wish I was watching the original'

Covers of songs- unless they're really bad ones- don't seem to have the same effect for me

You can usually tell when an artist is being asked by their record company to cover a song and when an artist truly idolizes and respects a song their covering in the way they interpret it. An artist or group who really loves a specific song by another artist will do a great interpretation from their own perspective and style. Often it barely resembles the original but is still a great song on its own. And they often choose a song that wasn't necessarily a big hit to begin with.

Otherwise, when the label asks for a cover song, they always choose a song that was already a big number one hit for the original artist to guarantee record sales (or downloads or however we're force feeding pop music to tweenagers these days). And the producer doesn't allow the artist to do much more than a verbatim cover with a bigger drum sound, some AutoTune and dj scratching.

[Warren G]

The Velvet Underground's "New Age" was an old classic...

http://youtu.be/I70pQbod9rQ

but I thought Tori Amo's remake was fantastic...between her vocal and Adrian Belew's guitar...

http://youtu.be/KBVZkSfCU4w

[Historian]

Otherwise, when the label asks for a cover song, they always choose a song that was already a big number one hit for the original artist to guarantee record sales (or downloads or however we're force feeding pop music to tweenagers these days). And the producer doesn't allow the artist to do much more than a verbatim cover with a bigger drum sound, some AutoTune and dj scratching.



Yes, you're right on the mark there. A good, although probably lesser-known example of this (if only because I happen to have been listening to the original in the car about an hour ago, and it's a song I've always loved), is Stop!, the one major hit by sadly-overlooked British singer-songwriter Sam Brown in the late 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muDZD3wgoHI&feature=related


In 2004, the producers of one of the Bridget Jones movies chose it for the soundtrack, but rather than use the original, they brought in British R&B singer Jamelia to cover it- adding as far as I can see nothing to the original other than a younger and maybe at the time more fashionable artist singing it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC4fJkmIv0E

[Mal Hombre]

They did the same thing with "It's Raining Men" Gerri Halliwell's version was no improvement over The Weather Girls'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlbPw7WAqM
This video does look a bit like a "Specialist Movie" at one point.
The Ginger version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9X-GKtbJI&feature=related

[j6251]

My own take on remakes is, I just don't see the flow of remakes stopping anytime soon. It's really dificult for any fresh idea's, most genres have been explored in-depth and what with money being a bigger issue than ever in all studio's, re-hashing old films from the 1900's is going to keep happening. It's the same with music. It's a cheap easy route these days, within a lot of the arts too. We're in a period of time now where the new generation of kids probably won't be aware that what they're listening to and watching at the cinema, is a remake/cover of something from decades ago and they'll absorb it as new original material.

I've had a few surprises over the years myself in where the movies (and songs) I thought were stand alone, genuine and authentic original new releases, were just a new spin on pre-existing released material.

[j6251]

Yes, you're right on the mark there. A good, although probably lesser-known example of this (if only because I happen to have been listening to the original in the car about an hour ago, and it's a song I've always loved), is Stop!, the one major hit by sadly-overlooked British singer-songwriter Sam Brown in the late 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muDZD3wgoHI&feature=related


In 2004, the producers of one of the Bridget Jones movies chose it for the soundtrack, but rather than use the original, they brought in British R&B singer Jamelia to cover it- adding as far as I can see nothing to the original other than a younger and maybe at the time more fashionable artist singing it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC4fJkmIv0E

Just to add a little something to the pot about Sam Brown since she's been mentioned, she appears as a Pink Floyd backing singer in one their live concert video's and has recently been teaching vocals at a music college in London.

[hansvon]

from toplessrobot.com ............ You know, it's been a while since someone's promised something about Ghostbusters 3 that almost certainly isn't true. Let's check in with Dan Aykroyd, shall we? From Coming Soon (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=81518) :

Dan Aykroyd appeared on The Dennis Miller Show to discuss the project, dropping specific details about the sequel, hinting that the plan is to film in Spring of 2012 no matter what happens casting-wise.

"Yes, we will be doing the movie and hopefully with Mr. Murray," he says, "That is our hope. We have an excellent script. What we have to remember is that 'Ghostbusters' is bigger than any one component, although Billy was absolutely the lead and contributive to it in a massive way, as was the director and Harold [Ramis], myself and Sigourney [Weaver]. The concept is much larger than any individual role and the promise of 'Ghostbusters 3' is that we get to hand the equipment and the franchise down to new blood."


OH GOD NO. Um, Mr. Aykroyd, you understand the reason you've failed to make Ghostbusters 3 for the last 25 years is specifically because you've been waiting on Bill Murray, right? And that was the right decision, because Ghostbusters without Murray is not Ghostbusters -- I don't know what the **** it is, but it's nothing anybody wants to watch. That would be... that would be like making a sequel to The Blues Brothers without John Belushi, and OH WAIT YOU ALREADY DID THAT TOO. Don't you remember how that went? Why would you do that again -- not just to the fans, but to yourself? Yes, I agree it sucks that Murray's still uncooperative, but them's the breaks. Please, just... don't. Please. Thanks to Weeb for the tip.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o300/reiko7176/skull-1.jpg

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net .......... Back in July there were rumblings that Josh Brolin was in very early talks to lead the gestating remake of Oldboy which just surprised everyone by getting Spike Lee to direct the film. Now Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/josh-brolin-to-star-in-spike-lees-oldboy-redo-for-mandate/) says the new take on Park Chan-wook's 2003 thriller has officially cast the actor in the lead role of the remake written by Mark Protosevich (the same writer working on a new Jurassic Park (http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/steven-spielberg-could-bring-jurassic-park-4-back-from-extinction/) with Steven Spielberg who was previously flirting (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/steven-spielberg-and-will-smith-remaking-oldboy/) with the Oldboy remake himself). Honestly, as worrisome as this remake might make fans of the original, having Lee and Brolin work on a project like this sounds more than satisfying.

Now if only Christian Bale would take on the villain role, which he's said to be considering (http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/christian-bale-circling-villain-role-in-spike-lees-remake-of-oldboy/) amongst a slew of other projects, this would be one of my most anticipated films coming down the road. For those who aren't familiar with the original film, it follows a man who is kidnapped on his daughter’s birthday and held for 15 years in solitary confinement without explanation. Upon his eventual release, his only desire is to take revenge on those who destroyed his life. It's quite a brutal story, and with Lee directing and Brolin starring, plenty more big names should sign on for the project as well.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/Hans-Von/Movies/joshbrolinoldboy.jpg


:(

[chris chunt]

i think brighton rock got an un neccessarily hard time at the hands of the critics earlier this year than it deserved .

andrea riseborough brought much more depth to the character of rose than carol marsh did

and you get to see her in a see thru nightie ;)

[hansvon]

from firstshowing.net .............. With Short Circuit, Dirty Dancing, Total Recall and Footloose getting the remake treatment, frankly it's surprising that this much time has gone by before someone decided to remake the 1991 action thriller Point Break Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/alcon-entertainment-reboots-point-break/) reports it will be Alcon Entertainment making the bold move to remake the beloved film directed by The Hurt Locker helmer Kathryn Bigelow and starring Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze. In the original film an FBI agent (Reeves) goes undercover to catch a gang of bank robbers (including Swayze) who are also bad-ass surfers. Plenty of you are probably reacting just like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6PXoyNP1k) right now.

Apparently the new version may not deal specifically with surfing, but is set in the world of international extreme sports,and like the original involves an undercover FBI agent infiltrating a crime ring. As if fans of the film mad about this remake needed to feel anymore slighted, the rights for this remake have been secured during the week of the original film's 20th anniversary. Kurt Wimmer, the man behind the script for Salt and the forthcoming Total Recall remake will write the remake, and the project will be taken out to directors soon. Alcon's co-CEO’s Broderick Johnson and Andrew Kosove say, "“Who doesn’t love the Kathryn Bigelow original and its pure heart-pounding action and thrills? Kurt’s take infuses the story and characters with new twists and settings.” The first part of that statement seems like a good enough reason not to move forward with a remake, but that's Hollywood for ya. If you love something, then there's no reason it can't be changed to make it better.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k293/Hans-Von/Movies/point-breakDVDcover.jpg

[CARLTON BROWN]

i think brighton rock got an un neccessarily hard time at the hands of the critics earlier this year than it deserved .

andrea riseborough brought much more depth to the character of rose than carol marsh did

and you get to see her in a see thru nightie ;)

Sorry to say that I really hated this film. Many of the locations were not actually in Brighton, or even CG attempts to make it look how it was when I used to visit the town as a schoolboy in the 60s.

I didn't care for the direction, or the somewhat wooden script. For me, this was a film that really should have been left alone and it was almost as bad as the re-make of Get Carter.

Most re-makes don't work very well, although there are the occasional exceptions like John Carpenter's version of The Thing.

Other re-makes like The Thomas Crown Affair and The Italian Job were reasonably good films, but should have been produced as new movies.

There is so much good stuff out there that should be made into films and so much repeat garbage, which just goes on and on.

[deepsepia]

Mysteriously, there's a remake of "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" . . . I say "mysteriously", because this is one of the greatest achievements of television drama, Alec Guiness as George Smiley.

Its a very strong cast, and I think Gary Oldman is a great actor -- but why do this? There are other memorable spy stories of the period that haven't been filmed so brilliantly . . .

[Estreeter]

frankly it's surprising that this much time has gone by before someone decided to remake the 1991 action thriller Point Break

I didn't mind the original, till the end .........the Bells Beach scene. I don't live far from Bells Beach, that wasn't Bells Beach :( . Hope they use the real location this time.

[tygrkhat40]

Point Break is being remade? Maybe this time they can make a decent movie. I thought the original was a total waste of celluloid. To me Point Break falls into the "120 minutes of my life I won't get back" category.

[steve40]

the other day i watched the remake of journey to the centre of the earth, with brendan frazer, i honestly thought it was a total let down in comparrison to the original with james mason

[Nuerodrive]

Just found out they are remaking 2 of my favorite sci-fi films, They apparently have given Robocop the green light and looks like it will be a 2013 release but will be pushing merchandise till then to get people back into it, and their also making a new Total Recall movie which seems to look promising with a strong cast and seems to follow the story the original is based on by Phillip K Dick much closer so it definitely looks like a remake that wont actually suck. The Robocop film can go 2 ways it can actually be good or its really gonna suck, the original actor that played Murphy is gonna be hard to beat i reckon.

[Norbert84]

All these remakes make me laugh. Like anything coming from Hollywood during the past 10 years (if not more), it's gonna be trash cinema. You can't seriously expect a good remake of Robocop or Total Recall. Remember how Robocop 3 sucked. This so-called remake is gonna suck worse. It's gonna be a huge and very expensive piece of dogshit. Cinema is dead and it's been killed by mass production maniacs who just can't get enough. A few months ago, Hungarian director Béla Tarr announced that he's not going to make any more movies in the future. His worst movie is still better than any Hollywood blockbuster garbage that is dumbing-down people nowdays. Directors who are actually trying to create art are barely in the position to come up to these expectations. Many of them have been wiped out and Béla Tarr is among these victims of profit-hungry assholes. And this symptom is recognizable in music, literature and even visual arts.

[CARLTON BROWN]

All these remakes make me laugh. Like anything coming from Hollywood during the past 10 years (if not more), it's gonna be trash cinema. You can't seriously expect a good remake of Robocop or Total Recall.

Robocop and Total Recall are both being remade because the studios see this as an easy way to generate easy income. Robocop was comic book stuff, but there is plenty of potential to remake Total Recall into something pretty good and I must confess to having watched it a few times on TV, even if there are a lot of scenes that now look dated or stupid.

There are certainly some good looking sci-fi movies in the pipeline like Prometheus, The Forever War and a BBC funded version of Philip K Dick's - The Man In The High Castle.

[Nuerodrive]

All these remakes make me laugh. Like anything coming from Hollywood during the past 10 years (if not more), it's gonna be trash cinema. Hollywood blockbuster garbage that is dumbing-down people nowdays. And this symptom is recognizable in music, literature and even visual arts.

Very true but their is still some hope, for starters i must admit when i first saw the trailer for sucker punch i thought damn that looks like shit, turned out to be a much smarter film than inception in my opinion, fucked with my head much more, definitely one of the best i have seen from Hollywood this year. Hollywood tends to think that shiny special effects and top actors are what make movies, even when the actors a totally wrong for the roles they still are cast because they know they will attract the masses. That van wilder guy was cast for green lantern was such a miss they might as well have casted khumar from white castle for the role. I haven't even seen Avatar yet and dont plan too because i think having watched dances with wolves has covered that regurgitated story nicely without the blue aliens.

Their milking franchises like theirs no tomorrow 2 is coming out soon, does it really need a part two?? best places to find original movies these days are B grade studios like FullMoon even though their main area is horror/scifi its way more creative than all of what Hollywood is making these days. If anyone has not they should watch a movie called Bad Biology from the director that made basket case one of the most original movies i have seen in ages from the horror scifi genre. With complete unknowns as the main characters.

[renno61]

whats the point of remaking old movies .
why dont search for something that has never been done,plenty of books available,i mean is philip k dick the only sci fi writer.what about Leigh Brackett
her screen work includes The Big Sleep (1945), Rio Bravo (1959), The Long Goodbye (1973) and The Empire Strikes Back (1980). screenwriter
her own book the sword of rhiannon a far superior book than john carter of mars.
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its not just science fiction,theres tons of books begging to be made,sayin
that when hollywood does get books it always changes them.
classic example Dracula, its Quincey and Harker who kills Dracula not Mina.

[MaxJoker]

Conan-Lite !

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Talk about a shite remake :mad:

I`ve had bowel movements more exciting and unexpected.
The whole thing must have cost ten times the enjoyable original but ended up a total abortion of a movie and a rightful flop.
It pissed me off so much i stopped watching halfway through.
So hell for all i know maybe it turned into something almost bearable.
Doubt it though :(


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[Norbert84]

I wonder why William Gibson's Neuromancer was never made into a movie. The Matrix trilogy was influenced by the works of William Gibson and Johnny Mnemonic with Keanu Reeves was also based on a Gibson story but that movie sucked big time. Johnny Mnemonic is mentioned in the Neuromancer novel as Molly's boyfriend who got killed by a Yakuza hitman called Hideo. The book came out in 1984 and created a new science-fiction genre known as cyberpunk. There are rumours that Neuromancer is about to be produced soon and I don't like the idea. They would turn this great book into some blockbuster garbage like any other movie.

[CARLTON BROWN]

I wonder why William Gibson's Neuromancer was never made into a movie. The Matrix trilogy was influenced by the works of William Gibson and Johnny Mnemonic with Keanu Reeves was also based on a Gibson story but that movie sucked big time. Johnny Mnemonic is mentioned in the Neuromancer novel as Molly's boyfriend who got killed by a Yakuza hitman called Hideo. The book came out in 1984 and created a new science-fiction genre known as cyberpunk. There are rumours that Neuromancer is about to be produced soon and I don't like the idea. They would turn this great book into some blockbuster garbage like any other movie.

Agreed. The story I'd really like to see made would be The Difference Engine.

[theequestrian]

Here's a few the schlockmeisters can try:

The Seventh Seal - 1. Contrived happy ending where everyone lives 2. Remove the chess game with Death and instead substitute Trivial Pursuit 3. The grandly ironic/comic moment will be Death losing the game by missing a question about Ingemar Bergman films.

Every Kurosawa film - The guy couldn't even direct a movie in English for christs sake. Just because every director in the last 50 years (xcept Fellini, Truffault, Hitchcock, & Bergman) have cribbed his work doesn't mean he was great. Does it?

Every Hitchcock film - They've already been at work here with 'Psycho' & 'A Perfect Murder'. And here they have good reason, since if you had to describe Hitchcock in one word, the word would obviously be 'incompetent'