'Bente' (CeeCee model)

[gobshite]

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum, so a 'Hello' to all of you is in order.
Perhaps you could help me.
I am looking for identification and information on my all-time favorite Color Climax model.

Here is a picture of the girl in question:

http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc527/th_78080_Bente001_123_527lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78080_Bente001_123_527lo.jpg) http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc660/th_78081_Bente002_123_660lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78081_Bente002_123_660lo.jpg)

All I know is that she appeared in the 70's in a Colr Climax magazine under the name 'Bente'.
She also appeared in a magazine called 'Weekend Sex'.

And recently I found out that she also appears in the Color Climax loop 'Girl Scout Seduction'.

What I would like to know is:

1) what is her name, real or alias, under which she appears in adult films/mags?

2) is there some bio of her out there?

3) most importantly, does anyone have a complete list of all films and magazines she has done? And perhaps ways of getting hold of these?

4) any pictures would be most welcome, I have the set from which the picture above is from, I could post the whole set here if that is within forum rules and if anyone is interested

I would be very gratefull if anyone could help me.

Cheers,

Gobshite

[Xxphd]

I'm convinced she featured only once in print and never appeared in any CC loop. I have really seen a lot of CC material, so one could say i'm kind of an expert..

::)

[gobshite]

@ Xxphd: She appears in ''Girl Scout Seduction', not doubt about is. She even wears the same outfit as in these pictures. I have a link if you are interested.

@ mordred: Thanks, i'll try link

[Xxphd]

@ Xxphd: She appears in ''Girl Scout Seduction', not doubt about is. She even wears the same outfit as in these pictures. I have a link if you are interested.

You are correct. I totally forgot about this loop. Still, she has just appeared in one short movie and one picture set.

[ScanSam]

Hi,
>1<
in TeenageSex #2 (1977) she's solo in 6 pages under series "Pure but Willing !"
with dress from ''Girl Scout Seduction".

>2<
The best change for films /loops should be in a CC Bestsellers series.

>3<
Weekend-Sex, do you have more images from this series ?
If we can see the issue # of the magazine she "read", it's probably just
a few earlier issue no., I might be able to find the issue you want.

ScanSam

[Xxphd]

This Bente set is from CCC Sexy Girls #2 according to the Mag cover

[gobshite]

Aha, my favorite girl, again.

Perhaps some of you missed my last post on her, but I am looking for this (and others, if they exist) set where 'Bente' is called 'Lotta'

[Xxphd]

This Bente's Serie is from Teenage Sex 2, June 1976.



Thanks for the info.. in that TS story she's named "Yvonne" according to a certain database..

;)

[gobshite]

Haven't seen that particular picture of 'Bente' as seen on the cover of Teenage Sex no. 2 before. It looks like it belongs to the same set posted earlier in this topic. Perhaps there is more stuff out there. If someone has more of 'Bente' that hasn't been posted in this topic, would love to see it. Was once told there is a series of 'Bente' where she has it off with some fella, but don't have any proof it actually exists.

Just to wrap things up I'll post the final pic i have of the 'Lotta' set. Again, if anyone has fills for this..........please post.

Cheers

[gobshite]

I was surprised to find her in Private magazine from 1973 as I was always under the impression she was a model from the late 70's. I think she looks younger in the TS#2 sets (and in the loop 'Girlscout Seduction' too) than in the 1973 Private one. So perhaps the TS#2 set is a lot older than 'we' think, it was just printed in the late 70's, a reprint already at that time?

This leaves the 'Weekend Sex' set (and perhaps others) where she appears as 'Lotta'. I saw my earlier posts of my only two pictures of this set are gone (used **********, which is stupid). So here they are again. Fills anyone?

Other pictures, clips, and personal information on this model still very welcome!

http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc429/th_22178_wslotta1_123_429lo.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=22178_wslotta1_123_429lo.jpg)

http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc481/th_22188_wslotta2_123_481lo.jpg (http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=22188_wslotta2_123_481lo.jpg)

[Xxphd]

Latest discovery.. Bente is also in EROTISK TVANG NO. 6 (thanks to whop for posting these scans)

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[tuffy]

From Week-end sex 1979

Telefonsex

http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc809/th_93240_telefonsex_01_123_809lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc809&image=93240_telefonsex_01_123_809lo.jpg) http://img5.imagevenue.com/loc932/th_93245_telefonsex_02_123_932lo.jpg (http://img5.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc932&image=93245_telefonsex_02_123_932lo.jpg) http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc957/th_93378_telefonsex_03_123_957lo.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc957&image=93378_telefonsex_03_123_957lo.jpg) http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc845/th_93384_telefonsex_04_123_845lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc845&image=93384_telefonsex_04_123_845lo.jpg)

http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc997/th_93385_telefonsex_05_123_997lo.jpg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc997&image=93385_telefonsex_05_123_997lo.jpg) http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc1071/th_93387_telefonsex_06_123_1071lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc1071&image=93387_telefonsex_06_123_1071lo.jpg) http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc799/th_93392_telefonsex_07_123_799lo.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc799&image=93392_telefonsex_07_123_799lo.jpg)




Enjoy !

Tuffy

[tuffy]

Here are the pics, the first is the uncropped catalogue pic, the second from the QPDB.
You can compare them.

http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc673/th_13365_ro_633_cat_123_673lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13365_ro_633_cat_123_673lo.jpg) http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc1188/th_13370_r0633a_123_1188lo.jpg

Tuffy

[Al Gebra]

Here are scans created by Hal9000 (credits to him). File names are untouched.

The first batch is obviously taken from Pure But Willing - Teenage Sex 2.

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free image host (http://www.imagebam.com)


The second batch is from a (to me) unknown magazine. Can anybody identify?

http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/6b26b413217357.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6b26b413217357) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/ce7bc713217358.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce7bc713217358) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/a99d0213217359.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a99d0213217359) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/9bd8e413217360.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9bd8e413217360) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/722ee813217361.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/722ee813217361) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/f42ce013217362.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f42ce013217362) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/58fa2313217363.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/58fa2313217363) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/d7ffae13217364.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d7ffae13217364) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/e370df13217365.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e370df13217365) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/4ee3ac13217366.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4ee3ac13217366) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/8fb39513217367.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8fb39513217367) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/24466d13217368.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/24466d13217368) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/6c078d13217369.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6c078d13217369) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/15dcdd13217370.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/15dcdd13217370) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/da781e13217371.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/da781e13217371) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/009fb213217373.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/009fb213217373) http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1322/7a0e6613217374.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7a0e6613217374) free image host (http://www.imagebam.com)

[tuffy]

Here are scans created by Hal9000 (credit to him). File names are untouched.

The first batch is obviously taken from Pure But Willing - Teenage Sex 02.


The second batch is from a (to me) unknown magazine. Can anybody identify?



Yes. It's from Sexy Girls #2, a very old magazine. It's so old that I don't have it. I've began to collect much later.

http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc1172/th_51439_SG02_123_1172lo.jpg

The publish year is very tricky again. I have two Sexy Girls magazines.

Sexy Girls #3 published in 1976
Sexy Girls #12 published in 1975

So, #3 must be a reprint, and I don't know when #2 was published. Maybe in 1972-1974?

The story isn't ending here. I've found Sexy Girls #14 in the KKK history and they sade that the magazine was published in 1975 and was published 4 times a year, so counting back... and the publish year for Sexy Girls #2 is 1972.

The case is closed.

Tuffy

[Dick101]

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[DubSalute]

Credits to the scanning work (http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?p=636744#post636744) of Plus Oultre:

King Size Film No. 111 - L*lita

http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc674/th_68110_KingSize.Film111_123_674lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68110_KingSize.Film111_123_674lo.jpg )

[Jism Jim]

King Size Film No. 107 - The Painter

http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc144/th_35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_123_144lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_12 3_144lo.jpg) http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc901/th_16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_123_901lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc901&image=16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_123_901lo. jpg)

Thanks to this post by iggapop (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=670677&postcount=20)

[DubSalute]

L*lita Film No.31 - Love-In featuring Bente.

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http://img231.imagevenue.com/loc413/th_04958_LFNo.31LI.013_123_413lo.jpg (http://img231.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04958_LFNo.31LI.013_123_413lo.jpg)ht tp://img172.imagevenue.com/loc564/th_04960_LFNo.31LI.014_123_564lo.jpg (http://img172.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04960_LFNo.31LI.014_123_564lo.jpg)ht tp://img237.imagevenue.com/loc512/th_04963_LFNo.31LI.015_123_512lo.jpg (http://img237.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04963_LFNo.31LI.015_123_512lo.jpg)ht tp://img231.imagevenue.com/loc229/th_04966_LFNo.31LI.016_123_229lo.jpg (http://img231.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04966_LFNo.31LI.016_123_229lo.jpg)
http://img7.imagevenue.com/loc1024/th_04971_LFNo.31LI.017_123_1024lo.jpg (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04971_LFNo.31LI.017_123_1024lo.jpg)h ttp://img44.imagevenue.com/loc223/th_04977_LFNo.31LI.018_123_223lo.jpg (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04977_LFNo.31LI.018_123_223lo.jpg)ht tp://img261.imagevenue.com/loc7/th_04985_LFNo.31LI.019_123_7lo.jpg (http://img261.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04985_LFNo.31LI.019_123_7lo.jpg)http ://img44.imagevenue.com/loc573/th_04988_LFNo.31LI.020_123_573lo.jpg (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=04988_LFNo.31LI.020_123_573lo.jpg)
http://img228.imagevenue.com/loc140/th_05168_LFNo.31LI.021_123_140lo.jpg (http://img228.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05168_LFNo.31LI.021_123_140lo.jpg)ht tp://img244.imagevenue.com/loc120/th_05170_LFNo.31LI.022_123_120lo.jpg (http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05170_LFNo.31LI.022_123_120lo.jpg)ht tp://img133.imagevenue.com/loc504/th_05174_LFNo.31LI.023_123_504lo.jpg (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05174_LFNo.31LI.023_123_504lo.jpg)ht tp://img239.imagevenue.com/loc109/th_05182_LFNo.31LI.024_123_109lo.jpg (http://img239.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05182_LFNo.31LI.024_123_109lo.jpg)
http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc374/th_05184_LFNo.31LI.025_123_374lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05184_LFNo.31LI.025_123_374lo.jpg)ht tp://img135.imagevenue.com/loc197/th_05194_LFNo.31LI.026_123_197lo.jpg (http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05194_LFNo.31LI.026_123_197lo.jpg)ht tp://img151.imagevenue.com/loc915/th_05198_LFNo.31LI.027_123_915lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05198_LFNo.31LI.027_123_915lo.jpg)ht tp://img7.imagevenue.com/loc928/th_05206_LFNo.31LI.028_123_928lo.jpg (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05206_LFNo.31LI.028_123_928lo.jpg)

100 meter film from the Tabu-Film sub-label L*lita. Capture from old tape which reflects in the image quality, German dubbed. As it features Bente it must have scandinavian origin imo.
Love-In, 70's community loving out on a open field.

http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc207/th_08928_Lolita-Film-No.31---Love-In-artwork_123_207lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08928_Lolita-Film-No.31---Love-In-artwork_123_207lo.jpg) http://img198.imagevenue.com/loc698/th_05712_LFNo.31LI.zcr_123_698lo.jpg (http://img198.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05712_LFNo.31LI.zcr_123_698lo.jpg) http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc209/th_05989_Lolita-Film-No.31---Love-In_123_209lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05989_Lolita-Film-No.31---Love-In_123_209lo.jpg) (credits for the small boxscan go to the OP)

Size: 200MB (210360320 bytes)
Video: XVID 768x576 25.00fps 1860Kbps
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 22050Hz stereo 64Kbps
Runtime: 00:14:30
Language: german dub

(1x 100MB 1x 98,6MB)

http://rapidshare.com/files/256672025/LFNo.31LI.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/256675364/LFNo.31LI.part2.rar

password: dub

[VoiceOfShatner]

The delectable Bente also appears in the CC loop Schoolgirl Sex, which is included on the CC compilation Sexorgy 806.

Since this is a CC loop I can't post a link but I can give you some scenes from the loop:

http://img260.imagevenue.com/loc587/th_90291_bente1_123_587lo.jpg (http://img260.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc587&image=90291_bente1_123_587lo.jpg)http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc689/th_90596_bente2_123_689lo.jpg (http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90596_bente2_123_689lo.jpg)http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc896/th_90701_bente3_123_896lo.jpg (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90701_bente3_123_896lo.jpg)
http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc669/th_90706_bente4_123_669lo.jpg (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90706_bente4_123_669lo.jpg)http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc223/th_90706_bente5_123_223lo.jpg (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90706_bente5_123_223lo.jpg)http://img264.imagevenue.com/loc166/th_90707_bente6_123_166lo.jpg (http://img264.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90707_bente6_123_166lo.jpg) http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc1150/th_90708_bente7_123_1150lo.jpg (http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90708_bente7_123_1150lo.jpg)http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc47/th_90710_bente8_123_47lo.jpg (http://img168.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90710_bente8_123_47lo.jpg)http://img178.imagevenue.com/loc377/th_90711_bente9_123_377lo.jpg (http://img178.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90711_bente9_123_377lo.jpg)

Despite the outdoor setting this is quite different to the Love-In loop!

Bente's other CC loop Girl Scout Seduction appears on the CC compilation Sexorgy 829.

[VoiceOfShatner]

Bente was also in a Lasse Braun magazine - My Porno Girls Nr. 3

You'll see from this picture that it is her, although she was billed as "Louise" in that mag:

http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc346/th_21153_mpg3-bente1_123_346lo.jpg (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=21153_mpg3-bente1_123_346lo.jpg)

More information and pictures from the magazine on this thread: http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=314903&postcount=65

[gobshite]

The delectable Bente also appears in the CC loop Schoolgirl Sex, which is included on the CC compilation Sexorgy 806.


Thanks for that information VoiceOfShatner. We need all the info on Bente we can get!

[VoiceOfShatner]

No problem gobshite! It's a pleasure digging up all these extra pics and films of one of my favourite girls.

She must have made most of these films and magazines between about 1971 and 1973 - although she looks quite a bit older in the 1979 Weekend Sex pics, but since those didn't come out until 1979 they may have been taken later. I wonder if she did anything else in-between? When was the Erotisk Tvang set done, I wonder? 1974? 1975?

It looks like she might be on a loop called "Flesh-Spy 8", but that seems to be completely lost, which has some connection to Lasse Braun. Since she shows up in Lasse Braun's magazine it's interesting that she didn't do more work with him.

Here's some more stills from "Schoolgirl Sex". There's are a bit clearer, I think:

http://img22.imagevenue.com/loc230/th_61459_bentesharp1_123_230lo.jpg (http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61459_bentesharp1_123_230lo.jpg)http ://img150.imagevenue.com/loc1030/th_61460_bentesharp2_123_1030lo.jpg (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61460_bentesharp2_123_1030lo.jpg)htt p://img178.imagevenue.com/loc398/th_61465_bentesharp3_123_398lo.jpg (http://img178.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61465_bentesharp3_123_398lo.jpg)http ://img206.imagevenue.com/loc387/th_61466_bentesharp4_123_387lo.jpg (http://img206.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61466_bentesharp4_123_387lo.jpg)
http://img135.imagevenue.com/loc435/th_61467_bentesharp5_123_435lo.jpg (http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61467_bentesharp5_123_435lo.jpg)http ://img243.imagevenue.com/loc382/th_61468_bentesharp6_123_382lo.jpg (http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61468_bentesharp6_123_382lo.jpg)http ://img106.imagevenue.com/loc260/th_61469_bentesharp7_123_260lo.jpg (http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61469_bentesharp7_123_260lo.jpg)http ://img105.imagevenue.com/loc394/th_61470_bentesharp8_123_394lo.jpg (http://img105.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=61470_bentesharp8_123_394lo.jpg)

[tuffy]

She must have made most of these films and magazines between about 1971 and 1973 - although she looks quite a bit older in the 1979 Weekend Sex pics, but since those didn't come out until 1979 they may have been taken later. I wonder if she did anything else in-between? When was the Erotisk Tvang set done, I wonder? 1974? 1975?


Here are some dates:

Films:

Rodox 630 (60m) - School Girl Sex 1973 (video Sexorgy 806)

Rodox 633 (60m) - Girl-Scout Seduction 1973 (video Sexorgy 829)
Exciting 987 (45m) - Girl-Scout Seduction 1979 (re-release)

Magazines:

Erotisk Tvang 6 1973

Private 27 1973

Sexy Girls 2 1974

Teenage Sex 2 1977 (reprint from Sexy Girls 2)

Tuffy

[VoiceOfShatner]

Erotisk Tvang 6 1973

Thanks for the Erotisk Tvang date. So it is from the same time frame as the other pics.

Oh, has anyone noticed that in the 1979 Weekend Sex pics Bente doesn't seem to be wearing her distinctive heart-shaped necklace?

[gobshite]

Don't forget there is also the 'Sabina' set. This I guess will have been taken around the same time as the most of the other sets; e.g. 1973-1975.
And tuffy, do you have both versions of Girlscout Seduction? I was wondering if there are any differences as I always thought the version I have was strangely cut and could be missing some scenes near the end.

[tuffy]

Don't forget there is also the 'Sabina' set. This I guess will have been taken around the same time as the most of the other sets; e.g. 1973-1975.
And tuffy, do you have both versions of Girlscout Seduction? I was wondering if there are any differences as I always thought the version I have was strangely cut and could be missing some scenes near the end.

I added the Private magazine to the list.

I don't have the 'Girlscout Seduction'.

You probably have the Exciting version which is only 45m compared to the Rodox 60m version.

I don't know which version is on the video tape.

Tuffy

[VoiceOfShatner]

I added the Private magazine to the list.

I don't have the 'Girlscout Seduction'.

You probably have the Exciting version which is only 45m compared to the Rodox 60m version.

I don't know which version is on the video tape.

Tuffy

I am going to have a look at the video tape and see whether it is the short or long version.

Incidentally, I respect your wish to keep scans unaltered. I won't alter any scans that you've posted or linked to in future.

[VoiceOfShatner]

I don't have the 'Girlscout Seduction'.

You probably have the Exciting version which is only 45m compared to the Rodox 60m version.

I don't know which version is on the video tape.

Tuffy

The video version on Sexorgy 829 is the short version. Approximately 6 and a half minutes.

[Jism Jim]

King Size Film No. 107 - The Painter
http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc144/th_35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_123_144lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_12 3_144lo.jpg) http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc901/th_16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_123_901lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc901&image=16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_123_901lo. jpg)

Corresponding pics in the magazine Unique Flesh:

http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc537/th_50629_scan08_122_537lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc537&image=50629_scan08_122_537lo.jpg) http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc491/th_50619_scan06_122_491lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc491&image=50619_scan06_122_491lo.jpg) http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc422/th_50623_scan07_122_422lo.jpg (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc422&image=50623_scan07_122_422lo.jpg)

Thanks to this post by bluenose (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=30098&postcount=1)

[Jism Jim]

New scans of the Private 27 set, thanks to this post by privateguy: (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=905647&postcount=182)

http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/5871/450bf558703957.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/450bf558703957/) http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/5871/35f21258703959.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/35f21258703959/)http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/5871/e8361e58703960.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e8361e58703960/) http://thumbnails16.imagebam.com/5871/1e1b9358703961.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1e1b9358703961/) http://thumbnails17.imagebam.com/5871/d52ecf58703963.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d52ecf58703963/) http://thumbnails17.imagebam.com/5871/3dd4b058703964.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/3dd4b058703964/) http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/5871/4f523558703967.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4f523558703967/) http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/5871/f636bb58703970.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f636bb58703970/)http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/5871/1f188258703972.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1f188258703972/) http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/5871/019bb258703975.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/019bb258703975/)http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/5871/792b3558703977.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/792b3558703977/) http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5871/8281fb58703978.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8281fb58703978/)http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/5871/fdb5cd58703979.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/fdb5cd58703979/)

[Jism Jim]

Bente was also in a Lasse Braun magazine - My Porno Girls Nr. 3

You'll see from this picture that it is her, although she was billed as "Louise" in that mag:

http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc346/th_21153_mpg3-bente1_123_346lo.jpg (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=21153_mpg3-bente1_123_346lo.jpg)

More information and pictures from the magazine on this thread: http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=314903&postcount=65

Here's a new and larger scan of one of these pics:

http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5878/260d4e58774876.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/260d4e58774876/)

thanks to this post (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=906930&postcount=127) by grlilgirls.

[Jism Jim]

New scans of the Private 27 set, thanks to this post by privateguy: (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=905647&postcount=182)


An additional pic from the same set, published in Private 37, thanks to this post by privateguy (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=909302&postcount=194)

http://thumbnails17.imagebam.com/5907/0b4a9159068266.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0b4a9159068266/)

[Bubba Hotep]

http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc673/th_13365_ro_633_cat_123_673lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13365_ro_633_cat_123_673lo.jpg)

Exciting 987 - Girl-Scout Seduction

http://img252.imagevenue.com/loc498/th_56438_Exciting987Girl_ScoutSeduction_123_498lo. jpg (http://img252.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56438_Exciting987Girl_ScoutSeduction _123_498lo.jpg)

[DubSalute]

Likely "new" Bente loop spotted:

Private Film Nr.22 - Die Erstbesteigung:

http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc576/th_98762_Private_Film_Nr.22___Die_Erstbesteigung__ Bente_loop_123_576lo.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=98762_Private_Film_Nr.22___Die_Erstb esteigung__Bente_loop_123_576lo.jpg)

Credits to the scanning work of tomesing:
...http://img180.imagevenue.com/loc756/th_77335_pa8_123_756lo.jpg (http://img180.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77335_pa8_123_756lo.jpg) ...

[tomesing]

http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc75/th_29834_ew2_123_75lo.jpg (http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=29834_ew2_123_75lo.jpg)

8mm box "rodox film"

tomesing

[Bubba Hotep]

Credits to the scanning work (http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?p=636744#post636744) of Plus Oultre:

King Size Film No. 111 - L*lita

http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc674/th_68110_KingSize.Film111_123_674lo.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=68110_KingSize.Film111_123_674lo.jpg )



King Size Film 111 - L*lita

http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc187/th_39052_KingSizeFilm111Lolita_123_187lo.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=39052_KingSizeFilm111Lolita_123_187l o.jpg)

[zushiomaru]

found this one in ad of Seventeen,
Bente in Mini-Lolit@s.

http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/11411/b5721a114103985.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/b5721a114103985)

[Jism Jim]

I don't see the similarity. This girl has a different nose, different hair, and most of all larger breasts.

[tomesing]

A picture from my upload in the dutch mag thread.
This is "Truus Kuipers" not "Bente".

http://img233.imagevenue.com/loc433/th_24556_tien2_123_433lo.jpg (http://img233.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=24556_tien2_123_433lo.jpg)

tomesing

[Xxphd]

This is "Truus Kuipers" not "Bente".


:D that name is probably fictitious

[gobshite]

I was sure I posted something is this topic this afternoon which isn't there anymore. Probably removed by a moderator. I looked in the forum rules and can't find a clear season for the post's removal. I posted a link to a website that sells old 8mm loops. They had King Size no107 "the painter" for sale:
http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc144/th_35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_123_144lo.jpg (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=35865_king_size_107_the_painter_f_12 3_144lo.jpg) http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc901/th_16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_123_901lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=16433_king_size_107_the_painter_b_12 3_901lo.jpg)
I had no commercial reason to post this link as I don't own that website, nor is it owned by friends or family of mine. What I meant to say with the post is that Bente material is available and if we all look around we might add material to this ever growing topic, which is nice to see.
For information: I would have bought the loop myself (to be posted here) if I: a) had the equipment to digitalise 8mm film, and b) if I was 100% sure that UK customs allows pornographic material through.

[zushiomaru]

is this smiling redhead(actually a wig) Bente?
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1164806&postcount=238

[Xxphd]

is this smiling redhead(actually a wig) Bente?


Tip: a Forum search for the story title will eventually lead you to the 'Cindy' thread.

[Jism Jim]

Bente on the cover of Diskreet, thanks to this post by grlilgirls. (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1608046&postcount=277)

http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc1051/th_523301789_ics_Diskreet_9_01_123_1051lo.jpg (http://img217.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=523301789_ics_Diskreet_9_01_123_1051 lo.jpg)

[Jism Jim]

Here's a new and larger scan of one of these pics:

http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5878/260d4e58774876.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/260d4e58774876/)
.

And another pic belonging to this set:

http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc194/th_776504849_ics_Chick_157_84_123_194lo.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=776504849_ics_Chick_157_84_123_194lo .jpg)

Thanks to this post by grlilgirls. (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1643147&postcount=294)

[tuffy]

And another pic belonging to this set:

http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc390/th_776284890_ics_Chick_157_34_123_390lo.jpg (http://img136.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=776284890_ics_Chick_157_34_123_390lo .jpg)

Thanks to this post by grlilgirls. (http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=1643147&postcount=294)


Tuffy

[Xxphd]

credit/original post ->

http://thumbnails67.imagebam.com/17199/7c6746171989632.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7c6746171989632) http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/17200/cacf5d171991064.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/cacf5d171991064) http://thumbnails57.imagebam.com/17200/e7cd67171991078.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e7cd67171991078) http://thumbnails46.imagebam.com/17200/e4fbde171991093.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e4fbde171991093) http://thumbnails47.imagebam.com/17200/326e16171991107.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/326e16171991107) http://thumbnails41.imagebam.com/17200/8446af171991135.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8446af171991135) http://thumbnails38.imagebam.com/17200/b6a329171991171.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/b6a329171991171)

[gobshite]

Here http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2136639&postcount=164 a report from my recent 'Bente Sightseeing Trip'.
Interesting for all Bente and CC fans I hope.

Enjoy!!

[cologne_69]

Hi
I have this Film in Good Condition.


CD Production
Film-Nr. 23
( Jasmin Nr. 3 )
Glückliches Spiel

Super 8 - 60M


http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/1/6/5/e/165ea/IMG_0009_0.jpg (http://pimpandhost.com/image/16226402-original.html) http://ist1-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/1/6/5/e/165er/IMG_0010_0.jpg (http://pimpandhost.com/image/16226419-original.html)

[Cascatdora]

She was a centerfold in the Danish magazine: Ugens Rapport in the early 1970's. Unfortunately I don't know the issue.
However, I'm sitting here with the centerfold and I'll upload it when I figure out how. So patience please.

She is named as Vivian Jensen. As Ugens Rapport back then mostly used "the neighbors daughter models", who used their own name, that is very likely her real name.
She lived in a suburb to Copenhagen.
Her stats: 162 cm.
90-70-90 cm.
Age: Well, never mind...

In the text to the pictures it is claimed that she appeared in a few movies by a German film company. - She did not have many lines though, as it is noted...

She also appeared in a Danish hardcore porn magazine called Weekend Sex from 1980. (Vol. 14). Sorry, don't know the issue, but she is on the cover.
Many hardcore pics in a bathroom.

[Cascatdora]

Bente from the cover of Weekend Sex, 1980 (issue unknown, sorry).

And Bente from an unknown Issue of Ugens Rapport.
I'm still an amateur at this, so I think I'll leave it to someone who is more competent to stitch the CF.

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http://img221.imagevenue.com/loc610/th_834925112_Bente_03_123_610lo.jpg (http://img221.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=834925112_Bente_03_123_610lo.jpg)

[Jism Jim]

Bente was also in a Lasse Braun magazine - My Porno Girls Nr. 3

Here's two additional pics, from the Dutch mag Snoepie:

http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/24080/7476c6240791255.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/7476c6240791255)

[gobshite]

Pictures in this topic: http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2470260&postcount=287 of my second 'Bente Safari' in Copenhagen. I hope you will enjoy.

[gobshite]

Second part of my Bente safari:
http://www.vintage-erotica-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2507041&postcount=291