What Is It About Fisting?

[wrench24a]

I don't mean this as a put-down to anyone but just post it in the
form of a question. What is the turn-on to watching a woman get
a fist shoved up her pussy? It doesn't do a thing for me or anyone
else I've ever talked to. Just curious. Happy New Year to you and
yours.

[johound]

Always been a turn-off for me. Just seems too...brutal. I'm not a woman but whenever I see a fisting scene I just cringe.

[avidfan]

maybe the people who indulge in it are wannabe puppeteers!

[rotobott]

Noooo you've destroyed my memories of sooty forever.

[nerf-herder]

To each their own, i say. I think the same could be said of bukkake, pissing or anal sex.
All rely on some sort of submissive element on the fisted woman or "glove" as I believe the term to be.
But hey I'm no psychologist, I don't why some things are erotic and other are not.
:confused:

[captpike]

Me I find fisting scenes very erotic for me I can't say why. I don't go for the ruff degrading stuff like Max Hardcore and that style but I do like watching two woman doing it in a very erotic scene. Where as I don't like any anal or water sports turns me off.

[anklebiter]

I kind of like it because of the mentality of the woman.Knowing she is so crazy horny and she'd go to such extremes for fulfillment or satisfaction sort of draws me in.The same goes for women who use objects really.Bottles and bananas aren't really sexy things, but if a total nymphomaniac is cramming them to get off, now we have something ;)

[zuckerman]

... "watching a woman get a fist shoved up her pussy."

Put that like, it sounds very unpleasant, but using the fingers and perhaps the whole breadth of your hand to give your lover a very 'full' feeling, being as firm or gentle as she wishes ... well, that's very different.

I find the term 'fisting' sounds suspiciously like aggressive porno hype. And I have never seen a clenched fist inserted (Mapplethorpe fans might correct me?), only hands, and those frequently women's hands ... and into a passage designed for childbirth: big deal!

I first did this 25 years ago with a girlfriend who told me that the most exciting sex for her often involved a penis with a very wide girth. The best ever experience was with a man with a prick of average length but exceptional circumference that tapered out to a wide base. On every instroke her vagina was pushed open. It was, according to her, simply 'breathtaking' to be stretched open like that.

I couldn't match that but I could explore her pussy with my hand. Inserting four fingers up to the widest part of the hand was a little "too much", so I learned to form my fingers and thumb into a cone shape (as if picking up salt!). The penetration wasn't deep, but that tapered opening effect was perfect for her.

This became a regular part of our lovemaking. I discussed with her the idea of trying to insert my whole hand and she admitted that it was a very exciting fantasy, but one she thought she just couldn't comfortably achieve. However, after a few months she brought this idea up again. I have to say I didn't detect any change in the elasticity of her cunt but she felt it was something she could now do.

It was me who was nervous about this and several times I called a halt because the force I was exerting to try to pass across the barrier of the widest part of my hand seemed much too hard. I think what really worried me was the idea of the resistance of her vaginal muscles finally being overcome and my hand suddenly plunging inside her, causing who knows what harm.

Once, I suggested that she might want to push down onto my hand and be in control, but she looked at me as if I was a bit dim and gave me a very interesting insight into her sexual feelings. The whole point, according to her, was to feel my hand "being shoved in" - it was the exciting anticipation of my hand suddenly "whooshing inside" one day that made it so erotic for her.

In the end, it really came down to a matter of lubrication and one night I found myself up to the wrist in my girlfriend, faintly terrified by the incredibly loud moan she gave when the feat was finally achieved. But as she quickly began panting like a woman in labour and saying "fuck yes!" over and over and over again (which was quite unlike her), I soon got the message that it was more than OK.

What I hadn't been prepared for was how much she enjoyed my hand being pulled out. I thought the neighbours would be banging on the walls during that part of the proceedings.

Incidentally, this practice, 'fisting' if you like, produced a real change in the way she experienced her own body. She explained that her vagina "had begun to feel really three-dimensional" whereas before most of the feeling had been concentrated at the opening of her vagina. She was something of an amateur poet and her work started to reflect the experience using the metaphor of a "vessel" being filled up, or a void being "packed out"! OK, now I've made her sound weird; but she was just an intelligent and thoughtful woman trying to make sense of a profound experience.

After the thrill of doing that the first time, the novelty wore off for me quicker than for her (KY jelly is a bloody nuisance!). But by then I had discovered her G spot (much to her surprise) and I could reach that with just a couple of fingers inserted.

Some years later I had an affair with a married mother of three who was into 'fisting' as a regular practice. Oddly enough, the passage in seemed no less difficult but she was very roomy inside. And with her, some actual pumping of the hand in and out was welcomed but what she really liked was the hand being completely withdrawn and reinserted. If she wasn't quite prepared or relaxed enough, she would reach down and just lightly push my hand away a little; then say 'OK' when she was ready to resume. She always used to like to watch herself be penetrated in this way.

My feeling about it was as much about my hand being accepted into the woman's body or engulfed by it as it was about 'penetration'. I was absolutely astonished both by the muscular force and elasticity of the vagina. I became quite fascinated by the mysteries of that internal space: the fleshy ridges of the passage, the soft sea-anemone of the cervix, the unexpected effects of applying pressure to the interior surface (not just the G spot). They're like icebergs: only 10% is above the surface you know. ;)

A truly exceptional organ: one day we'll need an Attenborough and a clever film crew to explore it fully! Oh, I forgot; we already have one - Annie Sprinkle.

[cannon]

for sure i agree with all posters both pro and con. i've never done it but have been with women who probably wouldn't object to trying it in part or all the way. by now most of us have seen not just vaginal fisting, but anal, double fisting (anus and vagina at same time) as well as more than one hand inserted into either orifice (even considering the possibility of fakes). i dont know either. maybe its like looking at a car or train wreck, no matter how you feel about it you just cant turn your head away. oh by the way, i dont enjoy or endorse train wrecks, but i have bought the magazines. so i tell myself go figure. :)

[damp-patch]

I'm happy to say that I am a fan of girl on girl anal fisting, the only kind of fisting I'll give a second glance to. Its up there with pee bukakke for me. There, said it. Does it make me a pervert? Probably, but I should care.

[motorock]

I find fisting scenes very "hit and miss". I am totally turned off by men fisting women, as it seems brutal or as some form of torture in most of the scenes I have witnessed. However, I find women fisting other women to be totally erotic, as the women's fist is normally smaller then some six foot guy (for example, my wife could never take my big hand up her and I wouldn't expect her to, but I could seriously see her tiny fist in some girls pussy). I do draw the line at two handed fisting as this veers off from erotica to some sort of sexual athletics or something.

[9876543210]

Just a bit to add to Zuckerman's excellent post. Having a bit of experience with the subject I may be able to add to the subject.

Not all women can be fisted, nor would they want to. But some women absolutely love it. Particularly (in my experience), ladies that have had several natural child births. That process, naturally, expands the birth canal and can desensitize (to some extent) the area. Thus normal intercourse, although still pleasurable, doesn't offer the same bang for the buck (so to speak) as it did before the child births.

I have personally seen women, whom have had children, have unbelievable orgasms from fisting. Since I'm not a woman I can't tell you exactly why but I can tell you that, with the right woman, it can be an unbelievable experience for them. I can remember one lady that had never done it before have the most intense orgasm of her life (so she told me), squirt a gallon (something she also had never done before), faint for a few moments and finally kept her arms around me for the rest of the night. And virtually every time we met after that, she always wanted me to do it again.

Again, its not for everyone, but certainly worth consideration. It can be a very powerful experience.

[highviolet]

Sorry about the threadjack, but I have to express my appreciation. I am in two bands, one of them is an informal collective of ever changing musicians. Each time we play, we choose a different name. Tonight we are playing a warehouse gig with a dozen other bands. Our name tonight will be What Is It About Fisting?.

On the subject, to ask why someone is turned on by anything is a moot point. Who can explain sexuality? A girl asked me once why I like fat girls with huge boobs. My reply? "Because they make me horny".

Sexuality cannot be quantified.

[wrench24a]

Tonight we are playing a warehouse gig with a dozen other bands. Our name tonight will be What Is It About Fisting?.


DANG! I forgot to mail in my copyright application. Have fun at your
gigs. Take care.

[zuckerman]

I guess a couple of us have made a defense of 'fisting' as a real-life practice that can be safe and sexy, but the original point was about fisting as a porn practice.

Take baseball bats. In a real-world context you have an innocuous game of rounders, just with bigger salaries. But put one within 10 feet of Audrey Hollander and you have something that makes you want to call a paramedic.

Of course, it's the First Law of Porn: over time, all porn practices tend towards the extreme. (Or is the First Law: you don't talk about porn?).

Same thing happens in the Hollywood mainstream, doesn't it? The bangs just keep having to get bigger and more frequent?

So, at the risk of sounding like someone who is indifferent to exploitation and manipulation of women in the porn industry, isn't there a place for the extreme in the sense that what might be way out there for the average woman is, to seasoned porn performers, a walk in the park?

I'm all for really tough union representation for porn performers and strict codes of practice for agents and producers. But I wonder if, even in that ideal framework, an Audrey or a Belladonna or an Aurora might still explore acts that might shock and awe.

But that's always a dilemma for the consumer of porn: is what I am watching consensual, in a meaningful sense of that word?

The trouble is, what counts as evidence of informed consent? The stock answer is: she doesn't have to do it and is being well paid. I'm not so sure: we know there are tough pressures in the industry on performers. And what about personal histories: should we demand a detailed psych report from a qualified therapist that every time a woman gets double-fisted we aren't watching an episode of self-harm?

And there's a whole seedy underbelly to mainstream smut that thrives on the appearance (or worse) of harm and humiliation. But how do we separate out fantasy and reality, coercion or consent, or decide if there's a correlation between acts depicted in porn and real-life consequences for women as a whole?

Maybe we'll never know unless all porn is made by women (with tough codes), and perhaps for women. What would it look like? Soft focus, romantic, touchy-feely? Feminists say: it won't matter because female desire is male desire - the playing field is already run on male rules. But I have also been told by someone who has seen hard lesbian porn made by and for lesbians, that hetero SM porn is pansy-ass compared to their stuff.

My own compromise is like chicken. I'll pay a little more for free range, having convinced myself the birds lead more contented lives. But I still eat 'em and when there's nothing else on the shelf I'll grab some cage-raised if I have to rather than change my diet. But this metaphor won't really do, because it can't account for the fact there might just be a secret thrill in knowing that your spicy wings emerged from an industry which has conditions in it that make the term battery only too apt.

[cannon]

let me play a foil here. whether at times i might find it erotic (usually female to female) and other times a turnoff, might be secondary to other considerations. even the porn industry considers or advertises the practice as extreme or perverse (perhaps just for seedy marketing purposes), especially for double (triple even) fisting (in one or both orifices) in media products. however, the physiological consequences can also be extreme. i am not a doctor or a nurse but i have had considerable experience with the medical care industry, examining health and disability claims. some recent years ago i also read mag interviews with porn stars who practiced the extreme and did experience some of these difficulties. in short, extreme behavior may produce scarring and disease, increase the risks at some later time for anal or vaginal/uterine prolapse and the resultant emotional distress that comes with it. these prolapsed conditions can be either natural (genetic) or induced. still there may that rare human who could envelop a tree trunk everyday for the rest of their lives and suffer no ill effects. they are the exception and not the rule. so perhaps an old adage can help. practice very carefully; in moderation and enjoy. ;)

[cannon]

for any interested folks, some personal experiences and such. :)

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t50938-prolapses.html

[tabler]

I think its the serenity, alone, down by the river, man against fish, a battle of wits.:)

[wideopen1960]

Still grinning about the puppeteer joke in the beginning of this thread :-))

[Pinkpapercut]

I think its the serenity, alone, down by the river, man against fish, a battle of wits.:)

Thanks Tabler, that's the funniest thing I've read on this forum for months.

I was searching through the forum for a place to post a few G /G anal fisting photos when I found this thread.

My feelings are simple - I don't care less what people enjoy doing or wanking over as long as it isn't criminal and doesn't involve coercion.

I suspect my taste is down to a desire to see women sexually subjugated.

I only like to see female on female fisting, and I prefer female on female in all hardcore. Why female on female? Because I've little interest in looking at other men's bodies, and would rather see 100% women than 50/50 male/female.

Also, fisting is one of the few ways a woman can penetrate another woman with her actual flesh. I hate to see strap-ons.

Other than that, I think we should all just accept that different people have different tastes and inclinations. I find bloated artificial tits a turn off in porn and in real life - they strike me as mutilation - but I know some people love them. Takes all sorts...

[mrfumanchu]

it is the the kind of porn my will look up on the rare occation she does ... we have done it and she liked it at the time but it has been a while

[tabler]

Well, it keeps your hand warm in this cold weather.:)

[HugoHackenbush]

I have done it only once, at the request of the lass concerned. Proceeding slowly, having got the whole hand in, she exclaimed "It feels incredible!"

Now as to other points, no I didn't make a fist, my hand was pointed, with the fingers as close together as possible.

As to me personally, I didn't find it very exciting, I would of much rather had my willy doing the exploration, but we aim to please, do we not?

As for photos of this, doesn't make the member twitch in the slightest. So, I don't think this is a matter of subjugation, some women just like it, for reasons which are a mystery, just like anal sex.

[eek]

I can see it in movies as part of the whole extreme variety... just :rolleyes: - but IRL?? :confused:

[footstep]

Me I find fisting scenes very erotic for me I can't say why. I don't go for the ruff degrading stuff like Max Hardcore and that style but I do like watching two woman doing it in a very erotic scene. Where as I don't like any anal or water sports turns me off.
max hardcore is a sad poor sadic ill man i wanted to notice.

[eek]

Yeah - the bald guy is behind the bars at the moment; unless something changed? :confused: