latest Microsoft Security Patches

[buttsie]

Its nice to know their looking after their best wishes

the latest updates arrived yesterday and I had them sitting in my toolbar waiting to see if they were OK to install...let other pioneers enjoy the fruits/bugs of microsofts labour

Anyway I go to shutdown my PC last night and the updates without a word start installing themselves...

Nice to know big bill can basically do what he wants if the 'peril' is deemed big enough NOT

[avidfan]

my daughters laptop (vista os) shuts down and installs updates when youre using it without warning!

[buttsie]

Sounds very much like this persons experience...conflict with an update

http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vista/729348-automatic-updates-laptop-shuts-down.html

[thecossack]

I shut off my auto update and have latest MS "help" waiting to be installed. Anyone know what anything about content. My computer/tech IQ is about 1 1/2 on a scale of 10.

[buttsie]

my technical understanding is about 1 out of 10 which is why i rely on this site to tell me which ones to install and when to install

http://askwoody.com/

If you have any questions the windows friendly alternative forums for your specific operating system can be found here

www.annoyances.org

[9876543210]

buttsie,

the latest updates arrived yesterday and I had them sitting in my toobar waiting to see if they were OK to install...let other pioneers enjoy the fruits/bugs of microsofts labour

Anyway I go to shutdown my PC last night and the updates without a word start installing themselves...

Nice to know big bill can basically do what he wants if the 'peril' is deemed big enough NOT

I can't remember exactly where you change the setting, but I think you have to go to Win Update and look around until you find something that says "notify but don't install." I've used that setting for quite a while and it seems to work OK. I don't remember it ever just automatically installing something without my permission.

Most of their updates seem to work OK on my machine but MS did create a lot of havoc a couple of months back when one of their updates created a conflict with Zone Alarm. Luckily, I figured it out pretty quickly but it affected most all of my clients also; which was a real pain.

P.S. And thanks for the link to AskWoody. I'll bookmark that.

[buttsie]

In the security centre in the control panel on XP

Funnily enough thats the setting I had my updates set to
which was why I was so peeved off when they installed themselves without my say so

Yes most are fine but it only takes one to be written wrong or with an unforseen conflict
and all hell breaks loose for the end user

Reading askwoody for about a year and it seems most of the problems which result from patches come from conflicts with 3rd party software

[DTravel]

I'm on XP and still on SP2. I turned off updates shortly before SP3 reached general release because of horror stories of conflicts and software not working after it was installed. Everything on my system is working and stable, I've got fixes and protections in place to keep malware out, I was finally able to stop using IE a while ago (work requirement prior to that, don't ask), the only "problem" I've had is a few tracking cookies which were quickly dealt with.

So, why exactly am I supposed to give MicroSoft veto power over what I have on my computer by installing their "DRM update" (aka SP3)?

[9876543210]

buttsie,

In the security centre in the control panel on XP

I knew it was around somewhere.

Funnily enough thats the setting I had my updates set to
which was why I was so peeved off when they installed themselves without my say so

After thinking about it, I do seem to remember that happening recently. I can't be sure as I was really sleepy and turned off my computer when it happened. I'm about 90% sure that it did happen about a month ago. I'd forgotten about it until you mentioned it.

Reading askwoody for about a year and it seems most of the problems which result from patches come from conflicts with 3rd party software

I spent some time on that last night and its well worth while. I also liked the Windows Secrets site that he mentioned. Bookmarked both.

and DTravel,

So, why exactly am I supposed to give MicroSoft veto power over what I have on my computer by installing their "DRM update" (aka SP3)?

As we hopefully all know by now, MS has only very recently started to take security seriously (back in the DOS days there was absolutely none from MS). To this point, I've had few problems installing SP3 on any machine and believe its probably worthwhile to go ahead and install it. The only major problem I've encountered is with one client that runs some really old hardware (a plotter and digitizer) with really old drivers. On one of his machines I installed SP3 just after installing the OS (XP) and then installed the drivers. Big mistake as I couldn't get either of those pieces of hardware to work. Reformatted and reinstalled XP without SP3 and the hardware worked just fine.

So if you're using any really old hardware you probably don't want to install SP3. But I haven't noticed any other problems with machines running relatively recent hardware.

[Sharu]

For me, there are a lot of reasons, why i turned off the updatefunction, ok, I have service pack 3, but I decidet, to buy a new os, so I changed from professional to home, cause most of the pro features I don t need anyway. I don t trust first of all in the functionality, I had a familiar problem with a never ending bootsegment, but not over installing updates, it begann after an update, I booted my pc, and after about 10 sec. it booted again and again. The second thing is, that ms is very talented in fixing a security hole in outlook and by doing that, they open a new maleware door in IE. It wouldn t be the first time, they cause new security lacks by this way. I don t use Outlook, IE or Messenger anyway, there are lots of freeware/open source projects alternatives, that are more safe and stable. I use XPAntiSpy too, to reduce the communication between my PC and Redmont as much as possible. If u re using the right software, u need no ms updates. My system is fast, stable and I have no compatibility problems caused by ms updates.

HF

[Trip]

M$ is very talented in fixing a security hole in outlook and by doing that, they open a new maleware door in IE.
It wouldn t be the first time, they cause new security lacks by this way.
I don t use Outlook, IE or Messenger anyway, there are lots of freeware/open source projects alternatives,
that are more safe and stable.

Exactly. ;)


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[Estreeter]

Imagine what would happen if everybody stopped using internet explorer,
Microsoft have no control over the internet, they may then actually be forced into an embarresing position by way of public unpopularity to come up with a program without flaws.

[Mace]

What's the old joke? If Microsoft made a product that didn't suck, they'd be making vacuum cleaners.

[buttsie]

MS-DEFCON 4:
There are isolated problems with current patches, but they are well-known and documented on this site.

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MS-DEFCON 4: Get patched, but don’t install the .NET patch KB 2418241
Posted on October 6th, 2010 at 13:05 woody No comments

It’s time to get patched again. I don’t see any significant outstanding problems with the patches released on September’s Black Tuesday.

But I do recommend that you avoid the .NET update (tell me, have you heard that line before?) unless you’re running your PC as a web server. The bad boy is MS10-070, KB 2418241, the out-of-band patch that arrived last week.

As Susan Bradley explains in her Windows Secrets forum post, you only need that patch if you’re running your PC as a web server – and chances are very, very good that you aren’t.

If you don’t know how to turn off notifications for a patch, and you don’t want to be bothered by Windows Update telling you “Patches are available,” follow the instructions on Susan’s forum post to see how to turn it off.

Other than that, it’s a good time to get caught up on all of the other Windows and Office patches – everything from Microsoft.

I’m lowering us to MS-DECFON 4: There are isolated problems with current patches, but they are well-known and documented here. Check this site to see if you’re affected and if things look OK, go ahead and patch.
Windows Patches/Security KB 2418241, MS10-070

http://www.askwoody.com/



A side note beware of adobe or any other program on your computer telling you there is a new upgrade available.Most of these are probably legitimate but those that arent are infections caught when you visit a website and it says you need a plugin like flash
A typical driveby tactic

Some smart bastards have managed to now hijack these types of desktop announcements
to install malware.Best to go to the creators website direct and get any upgrades it would seem

March 25, 2010
New malware overwrites Adobe software updaters
It's the first time researchers have seen malware that overwrites rather than masks itself as an update program
By Jeremy Kirk | IDG News Service

http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/new-malware-overwrites-sadobe-software-updaters-847